WA Bus Observations 2024

[Mr OC Benz]

Happy New Year everyone!

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[Enviro 500]

3431 is fitted with Pioneer speakers throughout.
Was it intended to be a Perth CAT bus or are they planning on doing announcements on normal busses?
Maybe just on the Perth - Armadale express routes since I still see people complaining "the bus missed my stop".

3436 also has speakers installed.

[HL7619]

Went on 10 Bus routes today and these were the bus fleet numbers i was on
2158 - 442
2953 - 387
2451 - 990
3219 - 421
2540 - 403
2142 - BLUE CAT PERTH
2958 - 460
2943 - BLUE CAT JOONDALUP
2277 - 467
2547 - 442

Why was a Karrinyup Bus 2277 on a route 467 today from Joondalup to Whitfords and also why was a GAS Bus 2057 on a Yellow Cat route in Perth aswell so has 2277 moved to joondalup and 2057 moved to claisebrook and also why was 2451 on a route 990 today aswell has 2451 moved to karrinyup bus depot

[Merc1107]

Palmyra has for many years run supplementary trips in the peak on both Red and Yellow CATs in the City.

[Enviro 500]

Was 2943 a cameo on Joondalup CAT? What are 2880-1 doing these days?

[Merc1107]

Yes, but Claisebrook was the first to ditch CNG back in 2017.

That doesn't have any relevance - the buses are Palmyra buses, on Palmyra shifts, not spares popping into Claisebrook.

[Off The Rails]

Was 2943 a cameo on Joondalup CAT? What are 2880-1 doing these days?

2880/81 are regular service buses now, have been since a month after 4000/01 started on CAT duties.

Cheers!

[Enviro 500]

3441 spotted on duty, doing a 177.

[Bus-1809]

Went on 10 Bus routes today and these were the bus fleet numbers i was on
2158 - 442
2953 - 387
2451 - 990
3219 - 421
2540 - 403
2142 - BLUE CAT PERTH
2958 - 460
2943 - BLUE CAT JOONDALUP
2277 - 467
2547 - 442

Why was a Karrinyup Bus 2277 on a route 467 today from Joondalup to Whitfords and also why was a GAS Bus 2057 on a Yellow Cat route in Perth aswell so has 2277 moved to joondalup and 2057 moved to claisebrook and also why was 2451 on a route 990 today aswell has 2451 moved to karrinyup bus depot

None of these are unusual observations and dont belong in this thread, except for maybe 2943 on Joon CAT, which would simply be due to unavailability of an Electric Bus at the time.

As per PATH Transit days, Marmion and Joondalup Contract Services are shared between Joondalup, Beenyup, Trigg and Wangara Depots which means that Trigg Buses will appear on Joondalup Contract Services.

As per Merc1107's comment, 2057 would be assigned to a Palmyra Depot shift that runs a supplementary Perth CAT Service during peak times to assist with loading.

Please use the "General Discussion and Questions" Thread for fleet info. That's what it's there for.

[Zidanehartono]

2359 is at Redcliffe after a months stint at Malaga, as seen running a 940T last night.

[Enviro 500]

1675 on 282, 1691 on 33, 1690 on 940. Looks like they all got shifted from Beckenham to Welshpool overnight.

[Bus-1809]

1675 on 282, 1691 on 33, 1690 on 940. Looks like they all got shifted from Beckenham to Welshpool overnight.

Negative. They're going out of sequence. 1414 on 39F this arvo

[Enviro 500]

1675 on 282, 1691 on 33, 1690 on 940. Looks like they all got shifted from Beckenham to Welshpool overnight.

Negative. They're going out of sequence. 1414 on 39F this arvo

And 1687 is still on 206 as it should. Still doesn't explain how I managed to board 1411 on 220 during the last few days of 2023, which I mentioned in the previous thread.

[Merc1107]

1411 has evidently been transferred to Swan if you caught it on a 220. There may be other bus movements between Swan depots that resulted in a different bus being transferred to PATH in return.

[Enviro 500]

I suspect 3427-57 could be earmarked for Beckenham with 1669-99 given to Welshpool so 1404-34 can be moved to Gosnells. In turn, Gosnells B7s can be reassigned to Jandakot.

[Zidanehartono]

I suspect 3427-57 could be earmarked for Beckenham with 1669-99 given to Welshpool so 1404-34 can be moved to Gosnells. In turn, Gosnells B7s can be reassigned to Jandakot.

1669 is in Albany and 1695 - 1699 at Redcliffe.

2312 has returned to Malaga as sighted on a 375 this afternoon.

[TransRegional]

I suspect 3427-57 could be earmarked for Beckenham with 1669-99 given to Welshpool so 1404-34 can be moved to Gosnells. In turn, Gosnells B7s can be reassigned to Jandakot.

1670 and a couple of 167x might be going regional this year.

[Enviro 500]

1688 on 41. Any Baysie gassies made way for her?

[HL7619]

Just an unusual sighting saw 1890 on a route 468 yesterday and what is a PATH/Bayswater Bus be doing on a Swan/Joondalup Route shouldn't it be doing Path Routes not Swan

[Mr OC Benz]

Are you sure? Where did you see it? Could just be a wrong desto display or something else.

[HL7619]

Are you sure? Where did you see it? Could just be a wrong desto display or something else.

I definitely saw 1890 at Whitfords Station Yesterday at about 12PM if it is with PATH Transit why is was it doing a 468 route isnt 468 Operated By Swan and how is it possible for it to be operating that route Karrinyup and Joondalup Ditched their Gas Fleets 3 Years Ago

[Merc1107]

Perhaps this in reference to this photo? Depending on how the destination controllers are programmed, it can be possible to load up destination displays that are not locked to a particular route number, and manually input something. This can be useful if buses have to venture outside of their usual operating area for train replacement. I would wager this was merely a posed photograph, as there is otherwise no reason for a random PATH bus to turn up on a Swan route.

Had a look through the "routes.txt" file, which can be found in the General Transit Feed Specification (GTFS) download on the Transperth website. The following is shown for route 468:

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route_id,agency_id,route_short_name,route_long_name,route_desc,route_type,route_url,route_color,route_text_color
SWA-JOO-3943,SWA-JOO,468,,,3,,009639,FFFFFF

Still shows as Swan. For comparison, here is what a PATH route shows as:

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PAT-MOR-1965,PAT-MOR,347,,,3,,009639,FFFFFF

[HL7619]

Perhaps this in reference to this photo? Depending on how the destination controllers are programmed, it can be possible to load up destination displays that are not locked to a particular route number, and manually input something. This can be useful if buses have to venture outside of their usual operating area for train replacement. I would wager this was merely a posed photograph, as there is otherwise no reason for a random PATH bus to turn up on a Swan route.

Had a look through the "routes.txt" file, which can be found in the General Transit Feed Specification (GTFS) download on the Transperth website. The following is shown for route 468:

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route_id,agency_id,route_short_name,route_long_name,route_desc,route_type,route_url,route_color,route_text_color
SWA-JOO-3943,SWA-JOO,468,,,3,,009639,FFFFFF

Still shows as Swan. For comparison, here is what a PATH route shows as:

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PAT-MOR-1965,PAT-MOR,347,,,3,,009639,FFFFFF

Yes that was the photo i was talking about maybe it was a wrong destnation display on 1890 that makes no sense a PATH Bus on a SWAN route

[Enviro 500]

That photo certainly looks posed. Wonder what was the occasion.

[Merc1107]

That photo certainly looks posed. Wonder what was the occasion.

Perhaps an enthusiast wanted a photo, and the destination was set by a like-minded driver to pose the shot. Plenty of examples of that can be found in enthusiast groups, or on 'perthbus.info' proper.