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To avoid any argument it may be best to register it as a trailer and install the seats on private property where people can check it out stationary.
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eddy wrote: Thu Feb 16, 2023 2:51 pm This is what I put on another forum regarding the Cesssnock line.

Trailerbuses would only cost $500,000 each and could leave every 15 minutes for Newcastle with big seats with a good view up top and able to take electric bikes, mobility scooters and strollers on the lower deck for use to the final destination.

With auto prime movers, Opal cards, cameras, speed limiting, ABS, stability control, air brakes and a fixed turntable they should be made legal and bang for the buck is what we need to reduce inflation.


Eddy,
You have become a financial/purchasing and ordering wizard.

From a cost of $500,000 in February 2023 (see your post above) to a now reduced cost of $250,000 (your post of 8 December 2023), I can only say - wow, how did you save 50% in such a short time. Did you originally over-estimate?
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No, he is underestimating now.
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PG1
The prime mover =$250,000 the Trailerbus = $250,000 so I may have been talking about the whole unit.
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eddy wrote: Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:10 am To avoid any argument it may be best to register it as a trailer and install the seats on private property where people can check it out stationary.
That would be a thing that could get attention off workcover for a OH&S violation if a member of the public gets hurt at the depot during the pubic inspection of the trailer bus
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Campbelltown busboy wrote: Sun Dec 10, 2023 2:52 pm
eddy wrote: Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:10 am To avoid any argument it may be best to register it as a trailer and install the seats on private property where people can check it out stationary.
That would be a thing that could get attention off workcover for a OH&S violation if a member of the public gets hurt at the depot during the pubic inspection of the trailer bus
Mate, it is nearly impossible to get innovation in Australia, even a law that makes you wear a hat when you have the same chance of a head injury at 20 km/h as walking.
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Australia is a backwater in so many ways. Our export profile is plain pathetic reliant on stuff that happens to be underground through sheer happenstance, the brain drain overseas because there's no support for inventions and new ideas, we're very conservative only wanting to stick with established ways of doing things here.
Absolute weakness that we'll pay for.
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Swift wrote: Sun Dec 10, 2023 6:46 pm Australia is a backwater in so many ways. Our export profile is plain pathetic reliant on stuff that happens to be underground through sheer happenstance, the brain drain overseas because there's no support for inventions and new ideas, we're very conservative only wanting to stick with established ways of doing things here.
Absolute weakness that we'll pay for.
Yes I agree, I wonder why I bother because everyone wants to cover their arse.

I am past my useby date so the next generation who is not interested in keeping up will suffer I am afraid.
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Just came across this mob who says Australia will build one in 2025 https://academic-accelerator.com/encycl ... railer-bus
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Your link merely demonstrates the stupidity of the internet. It's quite clear that your posts have been interpreted by someone at that website as being "serious consideration" whereas in fact trailerbus is just one man's fantasy as are both Parrahub and the rail tunnel. This demonstrates why it is more than high time these topics were all moved to the fantasy section where they belong.
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I have always thought outside the box and sometimes I have been right and sometimes wrong but as I have just been banned from Skyscrapercity for a while either I am off the planet or others are.

I will not post anything in future unless answering a question.
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1whoknows wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2023 7:38 am This demonstrates why it is more than high time these topics were all moved to the fantasy section where they belong.
Great too see you support free speech. As long as it's mostly contained in this thread, I don't see the harm.
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I don't object to the thread, just to its location.
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1whoknows wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 8:48 am I don't object to the thread, just to its location.
I like you ,Swift and PG1 and I do not want to start trouble between you all.
Because nobody seemed to know what to do I said to use a Trailerbus on the electric thread which was quickly deleted by Fleet Lists as being in the wrong thread.
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1whoknows wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 8:48 am I don't object to the thread, just to its location.
Who looks at the fantasy section and he wants his threads to get views. It sounds like this trailer bus idea is a nostalgia trip on a modern take on a mode of public transport that got baned decades ago
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Campbelltown busboy wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 10:49 am
1whoknows wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 8:48 am I don't object to the thread, just to its location.
Who looks at the fantasy section and he wants his threads to get views. It sounds like this trailer bus idea is a nostalgia trip on a modern take on a mode of public transport that got baned decades ago
Obviously you do not ride a bike mate or you would see the problem.
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eddy wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 11:10 am
Campbelltown busboy wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 10:49 am Who looks at the fantasy section and he wants his threads to get views. It sounds like this trailer bus idea is a nostalgia trip on a modern take on a mode of public transport that got baned decades ago
Obviously you do not ride a bike mate or you would see the problem.
This is confusing so you want people to be able to take their bikes on the bus where would the bikes go if they are actually in the bus
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Campbelltown busboy wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 11:41 am
eddy wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 11:10 am

Obviously you do not ride a bike mate or you would see the problem.
This is confusing so you want people to be able to take their bikes on the bus where would the bikes go if they are actually in the bus
Yep, it allows riders to use their bikes at each end of the trip across town without being a being a pain in the arse to truck/bus drivers.


How many bikes etc. depend on how many seats on the lower deck I just drew 3 bikes and one mobility scooter on my Sketchup.
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This is the email I sent to bustaskforce today.


As Volvo has just built a trailer for the fire brigade in Canberra they may build a Trailerbus
Trailerbus on your phone. https://app.sketchup.com/share/tc/north ... source=web

It can take bikes and mobility scooters and with 1,000 kilometer range due to extra batteries can replace the XPT with more frequent routes.
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1whoknows wrote: I don't object to the thread, just to its location.
Agree, the trailerbus is no more relevant to New South Wales than any other state, the Armchair Operators and Fantasy Networks is a far more appropriate place for this and the Parrahub thread in the General Transport section.
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Linto63 wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2023 10:12 am
1whoknows wrote: I don't object to the thread, just to its location.
Agree, the trailerbus is no more relevant to New South Wales than any other state, the Armchair Operators and Fantasy Networks is a far more appropriate place for this and the Parrahub thread in the General Transport section.
As it can be used in NSW to allow people to put their bikes on to use at the other end I think the Sydney thread is ok.
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Linto63 wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2023 10:12 am
1whoknows wrote: I don't object to the thread, just to its location.
Agree, the trailerbus is no more relevant to New South Wales than any other state, the Armchair Operators and Fantasy Networks is a far more appropriate place for this and the Parrahub thread in the General Transport section.
You really want another Parrahub thread in the fantasy section I counted at least 8 to 10 Parrahub threads there over a 10 year period between 2012 and 2021 you can add the Parrahub thread in the general discussion to that
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This is what I replied to them this morning.

There are a few other points I would like to make if you bear with me.
Impossible to rollover with the lower centre of gravity which at 4.3 m allows it general access.
Gets bikes off main roads apart from being a nuisance are dangerous to the rider.
Can take mobility scooters which we will all use as we get old.
With safe 30 km/h backroads kids can ride to the Trailerbus and then to their school or sport saving buses on backroads and keeping kids healthy.
With the driver not being distracted he is less likely to have an accident.
There must be cameras everywhere and if the driver notices trouble brewing he turns on a blue light on the back and keeps driving until police render assistance.
Mercedes just built a trailer for the Canberra fire mob so they may build a prototype with the possibility of more.
With extra batteries it would have a range of 1,000 km and may even replace the XPT with faster and cheaper fares to more places.
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eddy wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:52 pm As Volvo has just built a trailer for the fire brigade in Canberra they may build a Trailerbus
Trailerbus on your phone. https://app.sketchup.com/share/tc/north ... source=web

It can take bikes and mobility scooters and with 1,000 kilometer range due to extra batteries can replace the XPT with more frequent routes.
Regards Eddy
Volvo did not built a trailer for the ACT Fire Brigade.

The Brigade bought a new vehicle based on a Volvo electric chassis, and it was delivered from Brisbane on a standard low-load trailer hauled by an electric Volvo prime mover.
https://the-riotact.com/act-fire-rescue ... uck/720056
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boronia wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2023 1:07 pm
eddy wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:52 pm As Volvo has just built a trailer for the fire brigade in Canberra they may build a Trailerbus
Trailerbus on your phone. https://app.sketchup.com/share/tc/north ... source=web

It can take bikes and mobility scooters and with 1,000 kilometer range due to extra batteries can replace the XPT with more frequent routes.
Regards Eddy
Volvo did not built a trailer for the ACT Fire Brigade.

The Brigade bought a new vehicle based on a Volvo electric chassis, and it was delivered from Brisbane on a standard low-load trailer hauled by an electric Volvo prime mover.
https://the-riotact.com/act-fire-rescue ... uck/720056
I thought I saw it in the Canberra times link and I know I saw a dropdeck semi for the fire mob on TV but approaching 80 I may have become confused.

BTW I just got a thank you for my experience.
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