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Re: Transport for Brisbane Observations 2022

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pasha241 wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 2:31 pm
Cazza wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:51 pm Real time tracking has not been working well at all these past few days. A G driver said during his run, it was saying he was crazy early then jumped to super late, then back to super early again during his trip. Trips are also not being assigned properly to buses and/or drivers (e.g. the 8:06am OB 116 and 4:35pm IB 112 have both been coming up as G artics with non correlating GPS locations this week). Something at the back end regarding run sheets and driver details has been well and truly scuffed.
and today all the bcc operator bus tracking has been down. However for other operator (logan, transdev, park ridge) the tracking still working.
qut391 wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 1:38 pm



All 4 buses back at E, that’s why only front sticker changed during this short term transfer.

E2838 on a Route 391 QUT Shuttle today.

2862 now at S instead of T. Same case as the 4 buses, only front sticker changed, most likely short term transfer.
i still saw 2072 doing 200 with C sticker upfront. infact still in Carina or transfer happen this afternoon. also 2861 i saw doing 105. that also the vehicle short tranfer to sherwood. Also saw 2111 doing 40 shuttle today. first time saw normal bus doing shuttle free.

also i saw willawong tags doing 139, I thought only sherwood and GC doing 139. Or willawong now start doing 139 also.

speaking of 391 route. did you have the map route because i want to take photo of QUT shuttle bus but still not sure which location that can make good focus photo.
2111 is an ex-free loop bus that was used before the current Yutongs were introduced. I’m pretty sure it still has its free loop livery and works as a backup for if the electric buses fail.
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T2890 involved in an accident on Settlement Road near Chaprowe Road last night (O/B 380). Not sure what happened, but bus was positioned perpendicular to the road across the inbound lanes of Settlement Road. The front appears to have sustained some damage.
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Which vehicle of BCC that is ZF and Voith.

The one that i know are:

Voith: 1279-1458, 1486-1523, All MAN CNG Artic, All Volvo B7 CR228, 5000-5028, 2071-2149, 2152-2252, 2801-2804
ZF: All MAN Diesel, 1200-1278, 1459-1485, 5029-5146, 2253-2353, 2805 upwards, All Volvo B8RLEA

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I have been on 2801-2804 before and it definitely sounds like a 6 speed ZF ecolife, I am not too sure though
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2801 is definitely Voith, although its gearbox isn't as whiny as some are. Listen for the whistling retarder: https://youtu.be/BC3-JAQSY88

You won't really notice the characteristic first "DIWA" gear on late model buses with Voith unless starting off heavily-laden on a hill (which should result in the gearbox holding each gear). Aside from newer buses being programmed more economically, the hydraulic first on a Voith is unique in the sense that the gear ratio actually changes as revs/road speed increase. It was meant to allow lower-powered vehicles to remain in their peak power & torque band to help them with hill-climbs, for instance. With the B8, in particular, being so powerful, the acceleration is quick enough for the hydraulic first not to be particularly discernible.

Definitely more partial to Voith when driving in traffic. I absolutely loathe buses that are in 6th gear by 40 (more opportunity for jolts and jerks as you decelerate).
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Merc1107 wrote: Sat Apr 02, 2022 9:10 am 2801 is definitely Voith, although its gearbox isn't as whiny as some are. Listen for the whistling retarder: https://youtu.be/BC3-JAQSY88

You won't really notice the characteristic first "DIWA" gear on late model buses with Voith unless starting off heavily-laden on a hill (which should result in the gearbox holding each gear). Aside from newer buses being programmed more economically, the hydraulic first on a Voith is unique in the sense that the gear ratio actually changes as revs/road speed increase. It was meant to allow lower-powered vehicles to remain in their peak power & torque band to help them with hill-climbs, for instance. With the B8, in particular, being so powerful, the acceleration is quick enough for the hydraulic first not to be particularly discernible.

Definitely more partial to Voith when driving in traffic. I absolutely loathe buses that are in 6th gear by 40 (more opportunity for jolts and jerks as you decelerate).
After watching this video, I do hear the retarder sound coming from the gearbox underfloor. That's amazing. I did not realise there are Voith gearbox buses came into service after B7R
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pasha241 wrote: Sat Apr 02, 2022 3:16 am Which vehicle of BCC that is ZF and Voith.

The one that i know are:

Voith: 1279-1458, 1486-1523, All MAN CNG Artic, All Volvo B7 CR228, 5000-5028, 2071-2149, 2152-2252, 2801-2804
ZF: All MAN Diesel, 1200-1278, 1459-1485, 5029-5146, 2253-2353, 2805 upwards, All Volvo B8RLEA

CMIWW
A lot of G13XX are fitted with ZF Ecomat and they are pretty common to see in southern suburbs. For old CNG buses, I have to say those ZF buses make me feel more powerful than Voith ones.
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It’s quite interesting that Route N310 (Nightlink) is operated by Hornibrook Buslines while in the daytime route 310 is operated by BCC. I believe N310 is also the only route that Hornibrook operates into the city nowadays (r.i.p 315)
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Megumi wrote: Sun Apr 03, 2022 1:28 am A lot of G13XX are fitted with ZF Ecomat and they are pretty common to see in southern suburbs. For old CNG buses, I have to say those ZF buses make me feel more powerful than Voith ones.
Being used to the Mercedes OC500LE I have to admit either flavour of 18.310 were just so much more pleasant - I suppose the extra power makes the difference. The gearbox programming on the ZFs is actually quite good, as it was on the L94s. Much smoother than you'd expect :D

It seems as though someone went to the bother of including some very passenger and driver friendly features on the BT fleet - flashing "Bus Stopping" signs for passengers who can't hear the bell, a second "Bus Stopping" sign on the gas buses for passengers up the back, on some buses (only G ones?) nearside interior lighting that switches off to save reflections on the windscreen, a unique seat moquette, mulitple smart-card validators at every door. All little things, but so much better than the common attitude of "this is the way the buses are delivered and we're not thinking about changing it."
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BT Enthusiast wrote: Sun Apr 03, 2022 1:34 am It’s quite interesting that Route N310 (Nightlink) is operated by Hornibrook Buslines while in the daytime route 310 is operated by BCC. I believe N310 is also the only route that Hornibrook operates into the city nowadays (r.i.p 315)
yeah. the weird thing is the BCC 310 terminates actually closest to Moreton border than N310 (which this route travel still in Brisbane Council).

also i notice there are some non BCC route that operates still Brisbane city and not going outside BCC. (For example 242: Carindale - Wakarley) which this operates by Transdev not. BCC Carina.\

other topic: 1930 Sherwood > Carina. However i am not sure this is temporary or permanent as they still put S letter not C letter.
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Redlands, Logan, PRT and MOunt Gravatt all have their own peak hour city services that go from city to suburbs, not on the Northside though
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It seems that many buses now have their radio removed. Why and is this permanent?
BTW, when will we see smart-ticketing facilities on BT's buses?
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You’ll find they have been fitted with the new brand of radio. It no longer requires the control head in the dash. If you look at the pillar by the drivers window the control head is now mounted there.
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From yesterday, I noticed that NightLink buses are now appearing on AnyTrip. They never used to do this! I didn’t find any real time tracking on Google maps but they are visible on AnyTrip…
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Just saw a P546 with Custom CB80 bodywork on Friday on the new TransLink livery, which is blue on the rear half. Check the Gold Coast On-Demand bus for the example photo.
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qut391 wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 1:38 pm
2862 now at S instead of T. Same case as the 4 buses, only front sticker changed, most likely short term transfer.
2862 was on a 306 from Nudgee this afternoon - really getting around...
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The Long Street rail bridge, living up to its name, claiming another council bus… noting all the signage telling council buses not to go under that bridge.

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Just saw a cool E-Ink bus stop at Yeronga station.
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Just had some photos of today's Railbus. It is really a Bus Expo rather than railbus shifts.
The Volgren Optimus double-decker on Volvo B9TL Euro 5 chassis with ZF Ecolife gearbox.
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Following up post...

So surprised to see the B9TL double-decker in Queensland and a big THANK to those friendly staff to let me take photos in advance of the trip.
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Furthermore, I also saw an old Mercedes Benz or MAN (I'm not sure) with a Custom CB60 body on the Bannon station which was fully low floor configured.
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Nice shots of that Decker - thanks for sharing!
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does TfB ever does rail replacement. is the reason why rail replacement done by private operator is because bus availability or just a tender thing. because in perth rail replacement usually done by their main operator.
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Its a tender thing. The tenders were recently re-let with some staying the same and some changing.
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pasha241 wrote: Sun Apr 17, 2022 1:40 am does TfB ever does rail replacement. is the reason why rail replacement done by private operator is because bus availability or just a tender thing. because in perth rail replacement usually done by their main operator.
Not quite sure, but Kangaroo Bus Lines, Brisbane Bus Lines, Thompson Bus Service and Logan Coaches are always joining the rail replacement duties.
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