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rtt_rules wrote: Tue Jan 13, 2026 6:34 pm So if they invade Greenland and the locals refuse to become USA citizens, where do they get deported?
I don't think that'll be on Trump's priority list, they already have enough ICE in Greenland

Realistically Trump wants Greenland for its resources (and possibly its location), not for its people, so if the US does annex Greenland (and if Europe is too busy playing Neville Chamberlain) they probably won't give a hoot what the locals think of them
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MiCCROwavE_OVEN wrote: Wed Jan 14, 2026 9:28 pm
rtt_rules wrote: Tue Jan 13, 2026 6:34 pm So if they invade Greenland and the locals refuse to become USA citizens, where do they get deported?
I don't think that'll be on Trump's priority list, they already have enough ICE in Greenland

Realistically Trump wants Greenland for its resources (and possibly its location), not for its people, so if the US does annex Greenland (and if Europe is too busy playing Neville Chamberlain) they probably won't give a hoot what the locals think of them
The Greenlanders seem proud of their Danish identity.
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Enviro 500 wrote: Wed Jan 14, 2026 10:37 pm
MiCCROwavE_OVEN wrote: Wed Jan 14, 2026 9:28 pm

I don't think that'll be on Trump's priority list, they already have enough ICE in Greenland

Realistically Trump wants Greenland for its resources (and possibly its location), not for its people, so if the US does annex Greenland (and if Europe is too busy playing Neville Chamberlain) they probably won't give a hoot what the locals think of them
The Greenlanders seem proud of their Danish identity.
Yup.

Being part of the Kingdom of Denmark also includes
- Free health care
- Free school / university
- 5 weeks Annual leave
- Proper food
- Proper wages
- Near zero risk of being shot at school, cinema, shopping centre
- Near zero risk of being shot by the police or other govt agents trying to drive away

- As of a recent estimate, there were only around 352 people of Greenlandic origin residing in the United States in total.
- Data on Greenlandic emigration to specific countries for a single year (2022) indicates only five people emigrated to the USA in that particular year.


Trump said in his election speech he wanted to stop the USa from being involved in wars and pull back from being the worlds policeman. So starting a war with NATO you think wouldn't be his 1st through 10,000,000 th priorty on his to do list.
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If only there were a few influential Danish people out there...

Reddit post from way back in 2016:
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Will this disscussion be included in the ban?

It's a pretty niche board. I asked a friend who is a railfan, and he says he doesn't even know about it. I don't even know if the Australian Government is aware of this.
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Busman66 wrote: Sun Jan 18, 2026 2:40 am Will this disscussion be included in the ban?

It's a pretty niche board. I asked a friend who is a railfan, and he says he doesn't even know about it. I don't even know if the Australian Government is aware of this.
For the Australian government to know about this board they would need to know this board and the busaustralia.com website as a whole being a place that isn't dangerous for kids. There has to be a extreme reason for a transport enthusiast discussion forum with 6,500 or so registered members that can be viewed without having to sign in to be added onto a federal under 16 social media ban
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Campbelltown busboy wrote: Sun Jan 18, 2026 10:35 am
Busman66 wrote: Sun Jan 18, 2026 2:40 am Will this disscussion be included in the ban?

It's a pretty niche board. I asked a friend who is a railfan, and he says he doesn't even know about it. I don't even know if the Australian Government is aware of this.
For the Australian government to know about this board they would need to know this board and the busaustralia.com website as a whole being a place that isn't dangerous for kids. There has to be a extreme reason for a transport enthusiast discussion forum with 6,500 or so registered members that can be viewed without having to sign in to be added onto a federal under 16 social media ban

The terms and conditions say 13+, I did not get asked my age when I joined, although it is optional.
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Busman66 wrote: Sun Jan 18, 2026 5:37 pm
Campbelltown busboy wrote: Sun Jan 18, 2026 10:35 am For the Australian government to know about this board they would need to know this board and the busaustralia.com website as a whole being a place that isn't dangerous for kids. There has to be a extreme reason for a transport enthusiast discussion forum with 6,500 or so registered members that can be viewed without having to sign in to be added onto a federal under 16 social media ban

The terms and conditions say 13+, I did not get asked my age when I joined, although it is optional.
The only way that this forum would not able to be accessable to visiting non members or members that are browsing not logged in is if the government puts a age verification thing on busaustralia.com.
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Campbelltown busboy wrote: Sun Jan 18, 2026 10:19 pm
Busman66 wrote: Sun Jan 18, 2026 5:37 pm


The terms and conditions say 13+, I did not get asked my age when I joined, although it is optional.
The only way that this forum would not able to be accessable to visiting non members or members that are browsing not logged in is if the government puts a age verification thing on busaustralia.com.

I have been visiting this board since I was 9-10 back in 2020. Got bored during covid, but joined a few weeks ago. I genuinely doubt the Australian Government will put a ban on this.
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The title "busaustralia.com" puts off the rail fans and yes I only joined after RP closed and this was because a member here used to quote references to certain discussions in personal emails he sent to me and quoted to RP.

As for joining, this group is the only one I've ever used my work email because I couldn't register using gmail, attempting from multiple accounts.

I doubt this old format will be in the magnifying glass of the govt.
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Correct, teh[sic] bunzel forum only existed as a place to chat when Railpage was offline, which was every other day from about 2003 until it never went back up again after the owner apparently went off the deep end and subsequently pulled the forum rather than handing it to someone else. The separate railpage.org is still up but is just a time capsule of late-1990s and early-2000s Australian transport web pages.

Back to political discussion. Trump is once again tarriffing western Europe after the latter refused to let him walk straight in and take Greenland. Not sure why Europe would still be sending anything to America in the first place (aside from "foreign" cars as the Yankstains call them), let alone still buying anything from America.
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Heihachi_73 wrote: Mon Jan 19, 2026 1:28 am Back to political discussion. Trump is once again tarriffing western Europe after the latter refused to let him walk straight in and take Greenland. Not sure why Europe would still be sending anything to America in the first place (aside from "foreign" cars as the Yankstains call them), let alone still buying anything from America.
Next Trump will be demanding Mark Carney to hand Canada over so America can have 51 states
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Trump doesn't want America to have 51 states, he wants to go halves with Putin in the northern hemisphere.
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Campbelltown busboy wrote: Mon Jan 19, 2026 12:52 pm
Heihachi_73 wrote: Mon Jan 19, 2026 1:28 am Back to political discussion. Trump is once again tarriffing western Europe after the latter refused to let him walk straight in and take Greenland. Not sure why Europe would still be sending anything to America in the first place (aside from "foreign" cars as the Yankstains call them), let alone still buying anything from America.
Next Trump will be demanding Mark Carney to hand Canada over so America can have 51 states
Carney can't do jack XXX without the Queen's assent, so Canada is safe.
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Enviro 500 wrote: Tue Jan 20, 2026 1:34 am
Campbelltown busboy wrote: Mon Jan 19, 2026 12:52 pm Next Trump will be demanding Mark Carney to hand Canada over so America can have 51 states
Carney can't do jack XXX without the Queen's assent, so Canada is safe.
King!

And I'm ot sure if Canada is now like Australia that even this is even required anymore.

Trump has gone quiet on Canada because he knows 30 M people said FO. Greenland is just 57,000 and alot of them are not that well paid with limited jobs prospects so he was hoping to buy them and they would be happy to sell. Again like Putin with Ukraine in many ways. But like Ukraine, the locals prefer their nationality over an American passport.

The problem for the idiots like DT and his dumb arsse support base is that think just because the poor of south and central America and desperate to get into the USA and USA passport for work and a better life, everyone else in the globe thinks the same.
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rtt_rules wrote: Tue Jan 20, 2026 2:22 pm
Enviro 500 wrote: Tue Jan 20, 2026 1:34 am

Carney can't do jack XXX without the Queen's assent, so Canada is safe.
King!

And I'm ot sure if Canada is now like Australia that even this is even required anymore.

Trump has gone quiet on Canada because he knows 30 M people said FO. Greenland is just 57,000 and alot of them are not that well paid with limited jobs prospects so he was hoping to buy them and they would be happy to sell. Again like Putin with Ukraine in many ways. But like Ukraine, the locals prefer their nationality over an American passport.

The problem for the idiots like DT and his dumb arsse support base is that think just because the poor of south and central America and desperate to get into the USA and USA passport for work and a better life, everyone else in the globe thinks the same.
Tump has shown interest in joining the British commonwealth which would made the July the 4th Independence Day holiday make no sense if the king said yes to the request as that holiday celebrates America's independence from the British empire
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Campbelltown busboy wrote: Tue Jan 20, 2026 3:15 pm Tump has shown interest in joining the British commonwealth which would made the July the 4th Independence Day holiday make no sense if the king said yes to the request as that holiday celebrates America's independence from the British empire
Probably because he sees this as a means for him to become King of the Commonwealth for the rest of his life and that for his off-spring and he loves the pomp and ceromony.
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rtt_rules wrote: Tue Jan 20, 2026 5:28 pm
Campbelltown busboy wrote: Tue Jan 20, 2026 3:15 pm Tump has shown interest in joining the British commonwealth which would made the July the 4th Independence Day holiday make no sense if the king said yes to the request as that holiday celebrates America's independence from the British empire
Probably because he sees this as a means for him to become King of the Commonwealth for the rest of his life and that for his off-spring and he loves the pomp and ceromony.
Will is going to have all sides covered when it comes to saving things if Trump tries it on with the on going situation with his step mum trying trying to use her position as the queen to get power and make the Parker Bowls family the royal family after his father passes away
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Campbelltown busboy wrote: Tue Jan 20, 2026 7:10 pm
rtt_rules wrote: Tue Jan 20, 2026 5:28 pm

Probably because he sees this as a means for him to become King of the Commonwealth for the rest of his life and that for his off-spring and he loves the pomp and ceromony.
Will is going to have all sides covered when it comes to saving things if Trump tries it on with the on going situation with his step mum trying trying to use her position as the queen to get power and make the Parker Bowls family the royal family after his father passes away
Yup.

I think Will has alot of work to do and Charles should be spending no longer than the end of the decade at the helm. The Royal Family and all its BS needs to be brought into the mid 21st century. Some traditions you keep, but others needs a reboot or simply booted.

I think the Late Queen was raised in the old school of royality but was reasonbly progressive in reducing costs and phasing down many of the old days of living a very public and very luxuarious lifestyle such as yachts etc all funded by the taxpayer. There is however alot more to be done and they need to get closer to that of their European cousins which are seen as far more down to earth to have help preserve the Monachy for the longterm.

What the Royal family desperately needs is less white hair and a retirement age for the monach and TBH if this isn't set a 75 (or younger) then they are kidding themselves. Certainly once retired from the Monach they can still be very active in the community but Charles especially hanging around until mother nature decides otherwise and especially if becoming frail or worse dementia etc is not a good look. Case in point, US Presidents, past and Present.

And yes, both Camila and DT are kidding themselves that the crown linage will change from its current path.
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I'd have Lidia Thorpe as President of an Australian Republic than King Charlie of England as Australia's head of State.
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rtt_rules wrote: Wed Jan 21, 2026 3:10 pm The Royal Family and all its BS needs to be brought into the mid 21st century. Some traditions you keep, but others needs a reboot or simply booted.
Unfortunately the Queen in her seventy years on the throne wasn't able to modernise parliament, swap out the broken, rigged voting system that is FPTP, or separate church and state (the monarch is always the head of the Church of England) in order for the UK to actually move forward. Apparently none of that is the monarch's job, and the bishops in the House of Lords will veto anything even remotely progressive anyway. The Royal Family are basically the British Kardashians at this point.
rtt_rules wrote: Wed Jan 21, 2026 3:10 pm What the Royal family desperately needs is less white hair and a retirement age for the monach and TBH if this isn't set a 75 (or younger) then they are kidding themselves.
Don't worry, William will take over soon so there won't be much white hair to worry about!
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Heihachi_73 wrote: Thu Jan 22, 2026 6:26 am Unfortunately the Queen in her seventy years on the throne wasn't able to modernise parliament, swap out the broken, rigged voting system that is FPTP, or separate church and state (the monarch is always the head of the Church of England) in order for the UK to actually move forward. Apparently none of that is the monarch's job, and the bishops in the House of Lords will veto anything even remotely progressive anyway. The Royal Family are basically the British Kardashians at this point.
The creation of the Church of England was actually Henry the 8th giving the middle finger to the pope and the Vaticans rules of the time around marriage and devorce as the pope outranked a sitting monarch when it came to religion and religious law in the 1500s
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Campbelltown busboy wrote: Thu Jan 22, 2026 10:21 am
Heihachi_73 wrote: Thu Jan 22, 2026 6:26 am Unfortunately the Queen in her seventy years on the throne wasn't able to modernise parliament, swap out the broken, rigged voting system that is FPTP, or separate church and state (the monarch is always the head of the Church of England) in order for the UK to actually move forward. Apparently none of that is the monarch's job, and the bishops in the House of Lords will veto anything even remotely progressive anyway. The Royal Family are basically the British Kardashians at this point.
The creation of the Church of England was actually Henry the 8th giving the middle finger to the pope and the Vaticans rules of the time around marriage and devorce as the pope outranked a sitting monarch when it came to religion and religious law in the 1500s
The whole Catholic vs Protestant sums up what is wrong with many people and the world. Ask yourself the question, how many people have died because of this divide, how many marriages were stopped, work and other discrimination all because Henry VIII wanted to remarry and to fix the problem created a new religion and made himself the Monach head of the church. Then for how many decades in the modern era was divorce a bad thing in the Protestant world including the Royal family. The whole Charles and Dianan fascade was because he didn't have the balls to divorce her for over a decade because divorce was "bad".
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Heihachi_73 wrote: Thu Jan 22, 2026 6:26 am
rtt_rules wrote: Wed Jan 21, 2026 3:10 pm The Royal Family and all its BS needs to be brought into the mid 21st century. Some traditions you keep, but others needs a reboot or simply booted.
Unfortunately the Queen in her seventy years on the throne wasn't able to modernise parliament, swap out the broken, rigged voting system that is FPTP, or separate church and state (the monarch is always the head of the Church of England) in order for the UK to actually move forward. Apparently none of that is the monarch's job, and the bishops in the House of Lords will veto anything even remotely progressive anyway. The Royal Family are basically the British Kardashians at this point.
rtt_rules wrote: Wed Jan 21, 2026 3:10 pm What the Royal family desperately needs is less white hair and a retirement age for the monach and TBH if this isn't set a 75 (or younger) then they are kidding themselves.
Don't worry, William will take over soon so there won't be much white hair to worry about!
FPTP entrenches otherwise unelectable authoritarians in perpetuity while shutting out reformists. Precisely why no Nordic country ever uses it. Proportional representation effectively makes it impossible for anyone to claim majority. Not that they deserve it anyway.
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Enviro 500 wrote: Fri Jan 23, 2026 6:40 pm
FPTP entrenches otherwise unelectable authoritarians in perpetuity while shutting out reformists. Precisely why no Nordic country ever uses it. Proportional representation effectively makes it impossible for anyone to claim majority. Not that they deserve it anyway.
Agree, yet look at the complaints from the usually far left or far right here when their team doesn't win and the first thing they blame is the electroal system rather than the leadership and candidates performance and quality of polices put on the table.
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