State Budget 2023-2024

[Admet75]

Some good news in the State Budget with $1.3 to $1.5 million being spend each year for four years on a City to Lightsview Go-Zone should be completed by June 2023 Quarter (so really soon)- probably a July 2023 timetable change coming up.
Regional bus services get a boost of between $5.5m to $6.2m each year for four years.
Returning rail services to Public hands will cost between $320,000 to $15.1m each year for four years
Completing the Regional Bus Passenger Services Procurement- 2023-2024 target
Introduce the first fleet of zero emission buses and hybrid trains- probably for the OH, Grange and Belair Lines- 2023-24 target.

The government is investing in a more modern public transport system, providing

$7million over three years to implement the final Tap and Pay rollout on all Adelaide
Metro trains, giving customers the same easy ways to pay already enjoyed on trams
and currently being rolled out to all buses.

There is also $8.7 million over five years to introduce a new bus service to improve
public transport for residents in Lightsview and Northgate and $2 million in 202324
towards the upgrade of pedestrian crossings at the Clarence Park and West Croydon
train stations.

$5 million will be spent over two years on land transport infrastructure planning studies.

A $23.5 million investment will also facilitate the continuation of bus services in regional
areas including Tatiara, Port Augusta, Kangaroo Island, Port Lincoln, Mid North, Yorke
Peninsula, Riverland, Fleurieu, Eyre Flinders, the South East, Mount Gambier, Northern
Adelaide Hills and the Barossa

https://www.statebudget.sa.gov.au/__dat ... UCTURE.pdf

[loungeman76]

Some good news in the State Budget with $1.3 to $1.5 million being spend each year for four years on a City to Lightsview Go-Zone should be completed by June 2023 Quarter (so really soon)- probably a July 2023 timetable change coming up.
Regional bus services get a boost of between $5.5m to $6.2m each year for four years.
Returning rail services to Public hands will cost between $320,000 to $15.1m each year for four years
Completing the Regional Bus Passenger Services Procurement- 2023-2024 target
Introduce the first fleet of zero emission buses and hybrid trains- probably for the OH, Grange and Belair Lines- 2023-24 target.

The government is investing in a more modern public transport system, providing

$7million over three years to implement the final Tap and Pay rollout on all Adelaide
Metro trains, giving customers the same easy ways to pay already enjoyed on trams
and currently being rolled out to all buses.

There is also $8.7 million over five years to introduce a new bus service to improve
public transport for residents in Lightsview and Northgate and $2 million in 202324
towards the upgrade of pedestrian crossings at the Clarence Park and West Croydon
train stations.

$5 million will be spent over two years on land transport infrastructure planning studies.

A $23.5 million investment will also facilitate the continuation of bus services in regional
areas including Tatiara, Port Augusta, Kangaroo Island, Port Lincoln, Mid North, Yorke
Peninsula, Riverland, Fleurieu, Eyre Flinders, the South East, Mount Gambier, Northern
Adelaide Hills and the Barossa

https://www.statebudget.sa.gov.au/__dat ... UCTURE.pdf

It’ll be interesting to see what improvements will be made to the regional bus services to get more people to use them.

[Lt. Commander Data]

Some good news in the State Budget with $1.3 to $1.5 million being spend each year for four years on a City to Lightsview Go-Zone should be completed by June 2023 Quarter (so really soon)- probably a July 2023 timetable change coming up.
Regional bus services get a boost of between $5.5m to $6.2m each year for four years.
Returning rail services to Public hands will cost between $320,000 to $15.1m each year for four years
Completing the Regional Bus Passenger Services Procurement- 2023-2024 target
Introduce the first fleet of zero emission buses and hybrid trains- probably for the OH, Grange and Belair Lines- 2023-24 target.

The government is investing in a more modern public transport system, providing

$7million over three years to implement the final Tap and Pay rollout on all Adelaide
Metro trains, giving customers the same easy ways to pay already enjoyed on trams
and currently being rolled out to all buses.

There is also $8.7 million over five years to introduce a new bus service to improve
public transport for residents in Lightsview and Northgate and $2 million in 202324
towards the upgrade of pedestrian crossings at the Clarence Park and West Croydon
train stations.

$5 million will be spent over two years on land transport infrastructure planning studies.

A $23.5 million investment will also facilitate the continuation of bus services in regional
areas including Tatiara, Port Augusta, Kangaroo Island, Port Lincoln, Mid North, Yorke
Peninsula, Riverland, Fleurieu, Eyre Flinders, the South East, Mount Gambier, Northern
Adelaide Hills and the Barossa

https://www.statebudget.sa.gov.au/__dat ... UCTURE.pdf

Unbelievable. $8.7 million for extra buses to Northgate and Lightsview, which are already fairly well served, and not one single cent budgeted for anywhere in the outer suburbs or Adelaide Hills (where they have just released land for over 20,000 new houses).

I’d also have thought the “$23.5 million investment” to facilitate the continuation of regional bus services is nothing to get a pat on the back about - were they going to cut them otherwise?

I wonder where the “up to” $15 million a year to do nothing to the trains could be better spent.

[hillsbus]

Some good news in the State Budget with $1.3 to $1.5 million being spend each year for four years on a City to Lightsview Go-Zone should be completed by June 2023 Quarter (so really soon)- probably a July 2023 timetable change coming up.
Regional bus services get a boost of between $5.5m to $6.2m each year for four years.
Returning rail services to Public hands will cost between $320,000 to $15.1m each year for four years
Completing the Regional Bus Passenger Services Procurement- 2023-2024 target
Introduce the first fleet of zero emission buses and hybrid trains- probably for the OH, Grange and Belair Lines- 2023-24 target.

The government is investing in a more modern public transport system, providing

$7million over three years to implement the final Tap and Pay rollout on all Adelaide
Metro trains, giving customers the same easy ways to pay already enjoyed on trams
and currently being rolled out to all buses.

There is also $8.7 million over five years to introduce a new bus service to improve
public transport for residents in Lightsview and Northgate and $2 million in 202324
towards the upgrade of pedestrian crossings at the Clarence Park and West Croydon
train stations.

$5 million will be spent over two years on land transport infrastructure planning studies.

A $23.5 million investment will also facilitate the continuation of bus services in regional
areas including Tatiara, Port Augusta, Kangaroo Island, Port Lincoln, Mid North, Yorke
Peninsula, Riverland, Fleurieu, Eyre Flinders, the South East, Mount Gambier, Northern
Adelaide Hills and the Barossa

https://www.statebudget.sa.gov.au/__dat ... UCTURE.pdf

Unbelievable. $8.7 million for extra buses to Northgate and Lightsview, which are already fairly well served, and not one single cent budgeted for anywhere in the outer suburbs or Adelaide Hills (where they have just released land for over 20,000 new houses).

I’d also have thought the “$23.5 million investment” to facilitate the continuation of regional bus services is nothing to get a pat on the back about - were they going to cut them otherwise?

I wonder where the “up to” $15 million a year to do nothing to the trains could be better spent.

From my understanding of it the $23.5 million over 4 years is just the standard subsidy the State Government gives regional bus operators to fund the concession fare gap with full fares. At $5 million to $6 million a year this must surely be the lowest budget for regional transport in any state?

[hillsbus]

Also $10 million from last budget for the increased direct City to Mt Barker express buses. Looks like this will occur by June 2024.

[hillsbus]

Some good news in the State Budget with $1.3 to $1.5 million being spend each year for four years on a City to Lightsview Go-Zone should be completed by June 2023 Quarter (so really soon)- probably a July 2023 timetable change coming up.
Regional bus services get a boost of between $5.5m to $6.2m each year for four years.
Returning rail services to Public hands will cost between $320,000 to $15.1m each year for four years
Completing the Regional Bus Passenger Services Procurement- 2023-2024 target
Introduce the first fleet of zero emission buses and hybrid trains- probably for the OH, Grange and Belair Lines- 2023-24 target.

The government is investing in a more modern public transport system, providing

$7million over three years to implement the final Tap and Pay rollout on all Adelaide
Metro trains, giving customers the same easy ways to pay already enjoyed on trams
and currently being rolled out to all buses.

There is also $8.7 million over five years to introduce a new bus service to improve
public transport for residents in Lightsview and Northgate and $2 million in 202324
towards the upgrade of pedestrian crossings at the Clarence Park and West Croydon
train stations.

$5 million will be spent over two years on land transport infrastructure planning studies.

A $23.5 million investment will also facilitate the continuation of bus services in regional
areas including Tatiara, Port Augusta, Kangaroo Island, Port Lincoln, Mid North, Yorke
Peninsula, Riverland, Fleurieu, Eyre Flinders, the South East, Mount Gambier, Northern
Adelaide Hills and the Barossa

https://www.statebudget.sa.gov.au/__dat ... UCTURE.pdf

Unbelievable. $8.7 million for extra buses to Northgate and Lightsview, which are already fairly well served, and not one single cent budgeted for anywhere in the outer suburbs or Adelaide Hills (where they have just released land for over 20,000 new houses).

I’d also have thought the “$23.5 million investment” to facilitate the continuation of regional bus services is nothing to get a pat on the back about - were they going to cut them otherwise?

I wonder where the “up to” $15 million a year to do nothing to the trains could be better spent.

Good point about Lightsview too...it had a Go Zone to the west (202F and 203F) and the 208 at a fairly frequent interval day and night, plus the peak 206 and 528 services. I presume the new service will be like the one proposed in the ill-fated 2020 New Network? East Parkway, Hampstead Rd, Mullers Rd, Poole Ave and OG Rd to the Obahn?

[loungeman76]

Also $10 million from last budget for the increased direct City to Mt Barker express buses. Looks like this will occur by June 2024.

Either there’ll be service cuts to increase the number of express buses OR where are they going to find more drivers & buses for the increase?

[Lt. Commander Data]

Also $10 million from last budget for the increased direct City to Mt Barker express buses. Looks like this will occur by June 2024.

Either there’ll be service cuts to increase the number of express buses OR where are they going to find more drivers & buses for the increase?

The rumours I’ve been hearing suggest there will be new buses and more drivers required for the new service. Happy to be proven wrong of course, but it would be disappointing to see other services (which are generally infrequent already) cut more.

[Admet75]

Something tells me the Lightsview Go Zone could be to appease new residents of the new Oakden Rise Housing Estate which is currently being built. It’s interesting to observe and read the history of buses in that area. I remember on. 7 May 1995 when route 204 was introduced along what they called Regent Gardens and went to the city via Redward Avenue. It was quite well used because it operated at the early stages of development.

By the way an extra bus stop is proposed between Grand Junction Road and Sir Ross Smith Boulevard for Oakden Rise residents to access.

Maybe the Go Zone could be extended to Paradise Interchange to promote connectivity but NIMBYs might not like this. It could operate like the 528 thereby like the 556/557 links two obahn stops within one route.

[Lt. Commander Data]

Something tells me the Lightsview Go Zone could be to appease new residents of the new Oakden Rise Housing Estate which is currently being built. It’s interesting to observe and read the history of buses in that area. I remember on. 7 May 1995 when route 204 was introduced along what they called Regent Gardens and went to the city via Redward Avenue. It was quite well used because it operated at the early stages of development.

Nothing more to it than an election promise. No part of those suburbs can be any more than about 500m from the 202/203 or 206/208 as is, all of which run very frequently. There is lots of squealing that “the Liberals promised us a Go Zone then dropped the plan”. Let our memories not be so short to remember Labor totally opposed all of the New Network.

https://andreamichaels.com.au/issues/pe ... tid=Zxz2cZ
This petition suggests the new route will be similar to the current 528.

Some more politics of this
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_ ... tid=qC1gEa
https://fb.watch/lcXO6EKT7F/?mibextid=qC1gEa

If public transport were totally separate from politics (as it should be), I highly doubt any new money would go anywhere in the inner suburbs. Plenty of services already run frequently, and just simply need some good reform to be better used. Outer suburbs which are rapidly growing should receive all new service funding.

Other than the $10 million for extra Mt Barker services “coming soon”, I can’t think of any new funding for any other outer suburbs recently - in fact I recall in 2018/19 some early and late services were cut in the outer north and outer south.

[Admet75]

Well said and yes 23 July 2023 is when will see some timetable changes from what I can gather.
Yes there were cut backs to night and late night services in the outer suburbs. However interestingly the 443 which has been around since the August 1992 cut backs is still around.

However I read and saw a proposed Buckland Park or Riverlea bus service proposal a few years back it does highlight one of the three routes will be a tag onto the existing route 900.

This aside we are all waiting for the Outer North bus and Gawler line to get a shakeup because if the electrification of that line but until all the EMUs arrive which won’t be long I don’t think there will be any changes in that area.

The problem is that as we all know there are other areas that need better public transport provision but given MPs re election takes priority we will not see drastic changes. For example from Golden Grove Village to Salisbury interchange is only extended a few trips in the peak called the 415V could be easily extended more regularly instead of the 415 constantly terminating at Greenwith or go further extend it to the city via obahn like the old 544 used to. There is no contract area conflicts but someone claimed patronage was very low between Greenwith and Salisbury interchange when the former 544 run that route.

We need to note that public transport does not have an open cheque book but health is a priority for this government and will be till the next election. Look at the spending for health compared to public transport provision in South Australia and look at the poor figure given for rural operators to maintain the status quo. I know some provincial operators would like to introduce better commuter services in the peak to encourage locals to use it but without more funding they cannot. But oddly enough this situation occurred in Warrnambool and the local operator just converted school days only services to peak commuter services and miraculously they apparently didn’t need more funding.

Yes I agree we want better services but have some of us contacted our local MPs to give them ideas? If any of us have please feel free to mention it here and what was your idea and what was your MPs reaction. Look at the 566 service a school student proposed and got done because of an election promise I do wonder how patronage is going on that service mind you.