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Re: PTA / Transperth Service Changes - 2020

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23 only operates a few times a day.

102/107 using Thomas Street may eat into the declining ridership of 103.
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Re: PTA / Transperth Service Changes - 2020

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I find the Transperth notices a bit vague this time around. Instead of saying more direct path to Glendalough Station, it should clearly state the Joondanna deviation is being deleted
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The full run-through for those who want to skip running through the website or for those who haven't been able to find it somehow is available here: Transperth Bus Network Changes - Sun 11 Oct

Along with those changes, there are also Perth Busport stand changes effective from the same date (11 October), ditching the grouped stands '1-4,' '5-8,' '9-12' and '13-16' in favour of an easier to find 'zone' system.
Transperth Website wrote:Perth Busport - Stand Changes
Sun 11 Oct
From Sunday 11 October, there will be some changes to the way Perth Busport operates.

Buses will now depart from either Zone A or Zone B. Each zone will contain eight stands and services will always depart from the same zone.

Each zone will contain the following stands:

Zone A contains stands 5 to 12
Zone B contains stands 1 to 4 and 13 to 16.
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Services will depart from the following zones:

Zone A - Located at the Yagan Square end
  • 19
  • 28 to Claremont
  • 30
  • 31
  • 34
  • 67
  • 68
  • 81
  • 82
  • 83
  • 84
  • 85
  • 220
  • 360
  • 361
  • 362
  • 960 to Mirrabooka.
Zone B - Located at the King Street end.
  • 15
  • 16
  • 28 to Trinity College
  • 370
  • 384
  • 385
  • 386
  • 387
  • 388
  • 389
  • 402
  • 403
  • 404
  • 910
  • 960 to Curtin University
  • 970
  • 990.
For further assistance or to plan your journey call the Transperth InfoLine on 13 62 13 (TIS: 13 14 50) Hearing or speech impaired? Call via NRS 133 677 and ask for 13 62 13.
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Re: PTA / Transperth Service Changes - 2020

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For those discussions above I would like to repost the upcoming changes in mid-October so far. (Skipping the school only specific changes which was omitted below)
Transperth website wrote: Transperth Bus Network Changes

Sun 11 Oct
From Sunday 11 October, there will be changes to a significant number of bus services across the Transperth network.

The following routes will undergo changes:

Routes 19, 20, 23, 25, 27, 28, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 41, 42, 48, 55, 60, 66, 67, 68, 72, 75, 81, 82, 83, 84, 85, 102, 107, 177, 178, 179, 205, 212, 220, 240, 254, 344, 376, 402, 403, 404, 410, 412, 414, 415, 423, 424, 441, 443, 443, 444, 447, 508, 527, 537, 950, 960, 990 and Blue and Green Perth CATs

These changes include:
  • Changes to the zone system in Perth Busport
  • Stand changes at Elizabeth Quay Bus Station
  • A number of changes to School Special services
  • Routes 67 and 68 will no longer service Elizabeth Quay Bus Station and will instead terminate in Perth Busport.
Services will change as follows:

Elizabeth Quay Bus Station Stand Changes
The following Stand changes will occur at the Elizabeth Quay Bus Station:
  • Blue CAT will depart from Stand C5
  • Green CAT will depart from Stand C6
  • Route 25 will depart from Stand B5
  • Routes 30 and 31 to Salter Point / Curtin University will depart from Stand A2
  • Routes 32 and 33 will now depart from Stand E3
  • Route 34 to Cannington Station will now depart from Stand A3
  • Route 35 will depart from Stand A1
  • Routes 41, 42, 48 and 55 will depart from Stand A4
  • Route 60 will depart from Stand A7
  • Route 66 will depart from Stand A6
  • Routes 72 and 75 will depart from Stand E2
  • Routes 23, 102 and 107 will depart from Stand B4*
  • Routes 177, 178 and 179 will depart from Stand E1
  • Route 950 to QEII will depart from Stand B6 *
  • Route 950 to Morley Bus Station will depart from Stand A6
* UWA students should continue to board routes 23, 102, 107 and 950 from Stand B1.

Green CAT
  • The Green CAT will undergo a minor route change when travelling from Leederville Station to Elizabeth Quay Bus Station
  • Services will now operate via Mill St and will no longer service William St, providing a more direct journey between West Perth and Elizabeth Quay Bus Station
  • Green CAT Stop 20 (Cloisters) will be relocated along St Georges Tce closer to Milligan St
  • Services to Leederville Station will remain unchanged.
Routes 19 - 107

Route 19
  • Will undergo time changes with fewer services operating due to poor patronage
  • Will run an additional trip at school times for Mt Lawley SHS.
Route 20
  • Will undergo time changes with deviations to Dianella Library removed due to poor patronage.
Routes 27, 30, 31, 33, 34, 35, 41, 55, 66, 72, 75, 81, 82, 83, 85, 102 and 107
  • Will undergo time changes.
Routes 28 and 81
  • Will undergo time changes and will be retimed to for Shenton College students
Route 32
  • Will operate an additional short trip after school between Kent Street Senior High School and Como.
Route 42
  • Will undergo time changes and a minor route change on the Maylands Peninsula.
Route 48
  • Will operate an additional trip from Perth to Bayswater
  • Will run fewer trips between Bayswater and Morley
  • Deviations to Mert Homes in Bayswater will change to include Durham Road School.
Route 60
  • Will undergo time changes with additional trips running throughout the week.
Routes 67 and 68
  • Will undergo time changes
  • Will now terminate in Perth Busport and depart from Zone A
  • Services will no longer travel along William St to Elizabeth Quay Bus Station; you can instead board or alight these services in Perth Busport or on Wellington St
  • Route 950 will continue to provide high frequency connections between Elizabeth Quay Bus Station, William St and Beaufort St
  • Route 68 deviations to Dianella Plaza will be reduced due to poor patronage. This deviation will also undergo a route change to avoid missing stops along the regular route
  • The Route 68 deviation to Dianella Plaza will service a new bus stop on Pitt St near Waveley St
  • Route 67 deviations to Cottonwood Cr will be reduced due to poor patronage; this deviation will also undergo a route change to avoid missing stops along the regular route
  • If you are catching Route 67 on Cottonwood Cr you will need to catch your bus on the opposite side of the road due to the route change.
Route 84
  • Will operate an additional trip and will undergo time changes for students attending Churchlands SHS.
Routes 177 - 254
Route 177
  • Will operate an additional short trip after school between Kent St Senior High School and Cannington Station.
Routes 205, 212, 220 and 240
  • Will undergo time changes and operate with fewer services.
Route 249
  • Will undergo time changes
  • Will run an additional weekday trip.
Route 254
  • Will undergo a minor route change in Byford with services operating via Gordin Wy instead of Soldiers Rd.
  • The following stops will no longer be serviced by Route 254:
    • Stop 13152 Soldier Rd After Mead St
    • Stop 13153 Soldier Rd Before Mead St
    • Stop 27621 Soldiers Rd After Abernethy Rd
    • Stop 27620 Soldiers Rd Before Abernethy Rd.
Routes 344 - 376
Routes 344 and 376
  • Will operate an additional school days only short trip each replacing School Special 772.
Routes 360, 361 and 362
  • Will undergo time changes.
Routes 402 - 447
Route 402
  • Will undergo time changes including a new trip from Aranmore Catholic College and deviations to Servite College.
Route 403
  • Will undergo time change including new deviations to Servite College.
Routes 404, 410, 424, 425, 428 and 442
  • Will undergo time changes.
Route 412
  • Will undergo time changes with selected services now extending to Scarborough Beach Bus Station.
Routes 414, 415 and 423
  • Will undergo time changes and will operate fewer trips.
Route 414
  • Will undergo time changes for students attending Servite College.
Route 424
  • Will operate with a small number of deviations to Meath Homes in North Beach. These deviations will operate on trial and require consistent and well supported patronage to become permanent.
Route 441
  • Will undergo time changes improving the service to Duncraig SHS and Carine SHS.
Route 443
  • Will undergo time changes and operate one less weekday trip.
Route 444
  • Will undergo time changes improving the service to Duncraig SHS
    Will run with one less weekday trip.
Route 406
  • Will undergo time changes and a minor route change in Joondanna with buses operating a more direct path to Glendalough Station.

Route 447
  • Will undergo time changes improving the service to Warwick SHS.
Routes 508 - 990
Route 508
  • Will operate two additional morning peak short trips between Riverton Leisureplex and Bull Creek Station.
Route 527
  • Will undergo time changes.
Route 537
  • Will undergo time changes and operate fewer trips.
Route 960
  • Will undergo minor time changes
    All trips during peak hours in the peak direction will extend to Mirrabooka Bus Station.
Route 990
  • Will undergo time changes improving the service to St Mary's Anglican Girls' School.
Timetables updated:
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Re: PTA / Transperth Service Changes - 2020

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wachris wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:48 pm I find the Transperth notices a bit vague this time around. Instead of saying more direct path to Glendalough Station, it should clearly state the Joondanna deviation is being deleted
Is that you mean for the Route 406?
The Joondanna part was the short term route since introduction (back to February 2015) to avoid the Scarborough Beach Road / Green Street intersection. Since there's a second stop sign was built and make the buses can be go easily without the hazard. Ultimately the intersection will becoming a roundabout.
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Re: PTA / Transperth Service Changes - 2020

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Just saw from the spatial data from Transperth, there's some minor route changes for the route 286 and 288 in Forrestfield.

The stop 23012 on Access Road outside of Forrestfield Village is no longer be used, the service will be commencing at stop 14114 and terminating at stop 14103, both stops locating at Hawtin Road. (both stops are currently served by route 286 and 288 Maida Vale trips and route 294)

The route 285 was redrawn at Oats Street Station end to reflect the current runs.

Timetables updated:
  • Bus Timetable 108
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wachris wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:48 pm I find the Transperth notices a bit vague this time around. Instead of saying more direct path to Glendalough Station, it should clearly state the Joondanna deviation is being deleted
I've also found whilst updating my timetable database that some changes don't make it onto the web site.
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Re: PTA / Transperth Service Changes - 2020

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busdriver12 wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:37 am
wachris wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:48 pm I find the Transperth notices a bit vague this time around. Instead of saying more direct path to Glendalough Station, it should clearly state the Joondanna deviation is being deleted
I've also found whilst updating my timetable database that some changes don't make it onto the web site.
Absolutely. Interesting that the removal or addition of singular trips warrants mention for some routes but not others at times. When these sorts of changes are mentioned, it's described in a way that suggests the changes are more serious than they actually are.

wachris, I'd tend to agree with your assessment.
In a similar sense, the infamous 'due to poor patronage' phrase is not one that I am particularly fond of, personally.
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Re: PTA / Transperth Service Changes - 2020

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Fremantle Gazette wrote: City of Fremantle to launch free CAT bus review, considers service changes
Adam Poulsen, Fremantle Gazette
October 27, 2020 2:08PM

The City of Fremantle is considering adopting free public transport and doing away with its CAT buses, as part of a review of the service.

Fremantle City councillors voted 8-4 at last month’s meeting to endorse an investigation into a Free Transit Zone like that employed by the City of Perth.

They also voted 11-1 to investigate an alternative CAT service based on the existing model.

The officers’ recommendation had been simply to note the progress of the ongoing CAT review and endorse the service’s primary objectives, which included reducing traffic and increasing public transport use.

The move towards a two-pronged investigation came after Cr Sam Wainwright moved a successful amendment which was carried 5-2.

The proposal sparked lively debate, with Cr Wainwright suggesting a Free Transit Zone would provide a better service than the CAT.

“We’ve got the worst co-funding deal of any CAT service across Perth: worse than the shuttle bus in Subiaco, worse than the Perth CBD CAT, worse than the Joondalup CAT,” he said.

“Something that is our core business, that we should be doing to contribute to public transport patronage – such as capital replacement of bus stops and shelters – we’re not doing.

“We’re doing zero of what is our job, and we’re spending $700,000 a year on something which you could argue is not fundamentally our job.”

Opponents such as Cr Graham argued investigating a Free Transit Zone was premature.

“To me it’s just going to get more complicated,” Cr Graham said.

“If we make the decision in six months that we cut the whole (CAT Service) in October 2022, that’s fine.”

The City of Fremantle funds 60 per cent of its CAT services, with the State Government covering the remaining 40 per cent under a contract due to expire in October 2022.

The CAT review began in June, after COVID-19 prompted council to scrap the Red CAT service and halve the frequency of Blue CAT services for up to 12 months.

As part of the review, council directed City chief executive Philip St John to request the State Government to “look more favourably at funding the bulk of the Fremantle CAT services”.

In her report to council, City strategic planning manager Phillida Rodic said the two CAT services cost about $1.1 million a year, or $1.25 per trip.
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Merc1107 wrote: Wed Oct 28, 2020 1:10 pm
Fremantle Gazette wrote: City of Fremantle to launch free CAT bus review, considers service changes
Adam Poulsen, Fremantle Gazette
October 27, 2020 2:08PM

The City of Fremantle is considering adopting free public transport and doing away with its CAT buses, as part of a review of the service.

Fremantle City councillors voted 8-4 at last month’s meeting to endorse an investigation into a Free Transit Zone like that employed by the City of Perth.

They also voted 11-1 to investigate an alternative CAT service based on the existing model.

The officers’ recommendation had been simply to note the progress of the ongoing CAT review and endorse the service’s primary objectives, which included reducing traffic and increasing public transport use.

The move towards a two-pronged investigation came after Cr Sam Wainwright moved a successful amendment which was carried 5-2.

The proposal sparked lively debate, with Cr Wainwright suggesting a Free Transit Zone would provide a better service than the CAT.

“We’ve got the worst co-funding deal of any CAT service across Perth: worse than the shuttle bus in Subiaco, worse than the Perth CBD CAT, worse than the Joondalup CAT,” he said.

“Something that is our core business, that we should be doing to contribute to public transport patronage – such as capital replacement of bus stops and shelters – we’re not doing.

“We’re doing zero of what is our job, and we’re spending $700,000 a year on something which you could argue is not fundamentally our job.”

Opponents such as Cr Graham argued investigating a Free Transit Zone was premature.

“To me it’s just going to get more complicated,” Cr Graham said.

“If we make the decision in six months that we cut the whole (CAT Service) in October 2022, that’s fine.”

The City of Fremantle funds 60 per cent of its CAT services, with the State Government covering the remaining 40 per cent under a contract due to expire in October 2022.

The CAT review began in June, after COVID-19 prompted council to scrap the Red CAT service and halve the frequency of Blue CAT services for up to 12 months.

As part of the review, council directed City chief executive Philip St John to request the State Government to “look more favourably at funding the bulk of the Fremantle CAT services”.

In her report to council, City strategic planning manager Phillida Rodic said the two CAT services cost about $1.1 million a year, or $1.25 per trip.
This makes me wonder how much does Swan city council allocate to keep the 301 running. Ditto for Rockingham and 555.

Anyway, I believe having a FTZ in Freo sounds quite good, considering the number of bus routes going there. The area can stretch from South Street/South Terrace in the south to High Street/Ord Street in the east and Canning Highway/Queen Victoria Street in the north.
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Re: PTA / Transperth Service Changes - 2020

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Just saw from the Transperth website, there's some minor time changes for routes 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 102, 103 and 107. And also for routes 177, 178, 179 and 930 which happens a week after those route changes thereafter.
Transperth website wrote: Routes 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 102, 103 and 107 - Service Changes

Sun 15 Nov
To more efficiently deliver Transperth services in the western suburbs routes 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 102, 103 and 107 will undergo time changes.

Please note that as a result of this change there will be no reduction in the number of trips operating.
Transperth website wrote: Routes 177, 178, 179 and 930 Service Changes

Sun 29 Nov
To more efficiently deliver Transperth services in the South-East metro area routes 177, 178, 179 and 930 will undergo time changes.

Please note that as a result of this change there will be no reduction in the number of trips operating.
Timetables updated for 15/11/2020: Timetables updated for 29/11/2020:
  • Bus Timetable 9, 13
  • Bus Timetable 208
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Just curious, how do you get the info for the 177-179 & 930, was that by manually checking through the website, or is there some feature I don't know about?
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Merc1107 wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:42 pm Just curious, how do you get the info for the 177-179 & 930, was that by manually checking through the website, or is there some feature I don't know about?
For that time I've just manually checking the PDF timetables for the update, for that time being Transperth had yet to publish the link for that moment.
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Re: PTA / Transperth Service Changes - 2020

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Just saw the one that published by Transperth and seen that this does not applicable to the route 355, instead the route 335 will be affected.
Transperth website wrote: Routes 297, 310, 311, 355 and School Specials 749, 750, 767 and 768 - Bus Stop Change

Mon 02 Nov
From Monday 2 November, as part of our Bus Stops Accessibility Works Program, there will be a permanent change to the location of Stop 14684, in Middle Swan, serviced by routes 297, 310, 311, 355 and School Specials 749, 750, 767 and 768.

Stop 14684 (Great Northern Hwy after Toodyay Rd) will be relocated 33m closer to Richardson Rd.
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Re: PTA / Transperth Service Changes - 2020

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Would funding a free transit zone cost Fremantle Council less than contributing to the CAT service?

https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/freman ... -c-1370227
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Personally, I don't feel the CAT contributes much to the greater Fremantle community in its normal form (with both the Red & Blue loops running). Overcrowding often occurs on both due to the one-way loop routes they both take, but considering the numerous bus services in and out of Fremantle, it's effectively 'stolen' patronage from regular services the taxpayer has already funded. So effectively, the people of Fremantle pay (and taxpayers as a whole!) not only for regular services, but also a free service that duplicates most of them, too.

Fund an FTZ, I say. Even if it costs the same, a much larger group of people stand to benefit from it versus the CATs with their limited service span.
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Re: PTA / Transperth Service Changes - 2020

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Changes to 467 due to new intersection works being completed. From Whitfords, normal route to Ocean Reef Rd, then continue N along Wanneroo Rd, R East Rd, R Archer St, L Kemp St to resume normal route.

Routes 467 - Service Change

Sun 22 Nov
From Sunday 22 November, Route 467 will undergo a route change in Pearsall. This change is necessary due to recent changes made to the road network in the area.

There will be no change to the timetable and no stops currently being serviced will be missed.

However Route 467 will now service the following additional stops:

To Whitfords Station

12315 (Wanneroo Rd after East Rd)
22701 (Archer St before Amberley Wy)
28265 (East Rd after Wanneroo Rd).
From Whitfords Station

22700 (Archer St after Amberley Wy)
28264 (East Rd after Wanneroo Rd).
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wachris wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 9:08 pm Changes to 467 due to new intersection works being completed. From Whitfords, normal route to Ocean Reef Rd, then continue N along Wanneroo Rd, R East Rd, R Archer St, L Kemp St to resume normal route.

Routes 467 - Service Change

Sun 22 Nov
From Sunday 22 November, Route 467 will undergo a route change in Pearsall. This change is necessary due to recent changes made to the road network in the area.

There will be no change to the timetable and no stops currently being serviced will be missed.

However Route 467 will now service the following additional stops:

To Whitfords Station

12315 (Wanneroo Rd after East Rd)
22701 (Archer St before Amberley Wy)
28265 (East Rd after Wanneroo Rd).
From Whitfords Station

22700 (Archer St after Amberley Wy)
28264 (East Rd after Wanneroo Rd).
Due to the Wanneroo Road bridge over Ocean Reef Road road changes
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Additionally, the first service changes for 2021 have been announced ahead of the usual 'Last Sunday of January' network changes, with additional services to operate for Melville SHS.
Transperth Website wrote: Melville Senior High School Service Changes
Mon 01 Feb

From Term One 2021, Transperth will provide a number of additional Melville Senior High School services.
There will also be a change to School Special 766 and stand changes at the school.

The following additional services will operate:

Morning Services to Melville SHS

Route 148
  • An additional Route 148 service will operate to the school from Fremantle Station. The trip departs Fremantle Station (Stand 12) at 7.52am, arriving at Melville SHS at approximately 8.27am. Download a map of Route 148.
Route 502
  • Two additional ‘short’ services will operate between Bull Creek Station and the school. These services depart Bull Creek Station (Stand 3) at 8.08am and 8.19am, arriving at Melville SHS at 8.19am and 8.30am. Please note these are in addition to the full length Route 502 services currently operating to the school, which remain unchanged.
Afternoon Services from Melville SHS

Route 148
  • An additional Route 148 will operate from the school to Fremantle Station. Download a map of Route 148. This service will depart Melville SHS (Stand 4) at approx. 3.08pm, arriving at Fremantle Station at 3.53pm.
Route 915 and School Special 766 changes
  • An additional Route 915 service will operate from the school to Bull Creek Station. This service will depart Melville SHS (Stand 3) at approx 3.08pm, travelling via Booragoon Bus Station at 3.21pm and arriving at Bull Creek Station at 3.38pm. As a result of this additional service, School Special 766 will be withdrawn.
Stand Changes at Melville Senior High School

Services from Melville SHS will operate in the afternoon as follows:
  1. School Special 769 to Beeliar at 3.08pm and School Special 768 to Kardinya at 3.11pm.
  2. Route 502 to Bull Creek at 3.05pm, 3.08pm and 3.11pm.
  3. Route 915 to Bull Creek at 3.08pm.
  4. Route 148 to Fremantle at 3.08pm.
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Re: PTA / Transperth Service Changes - 2020

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We are seeking community feedback on a proposed new bus service (Route 523) which would operate between Cockburn Central Station and Treeby.

This new service would see the Transperth network expand to Treeby for the first time.

Route 523 is proposed to operate seven days a week at the following times:

Every 15 minutes during weekday peak periods
Every 60 minutes during off peak weekdays, Saturdays and Sundays.
Services would be timed to formally connect with trains at Cockburn Central Station.

View a map of the proposed new Route 523.

Please note, Route 523 would temporarily deviate due to Main Roads works at the intersection of Armadale Rd and Ghostgum Ave from 3 September 2020 to mid-2021. No stops would be missed.

https://www.mysaytransport.wa.gov.au/pr ... -route-523

We are seeking community feedback on a proposed new bus service (Route 544) which would operate between Kwinana Station and Wellard Station, via Bertram & Wellard.

This new service would see the Transperth network provide more convenient public transport access for The Village at Wellard, Emerald Park and Providence estates.

New Route 544 is proposed to operate seven days a week at the following times:

Every 20 minutes during weekday peak periods
Every 60 minutes during weekday off peak periods
Every 60 minutes during the day on Saturdays and Sundays.
Services would be timed to formally connect with trains at Kwinana Station.

New Route 544 would operate a coordinated service with existing Route 543 along Johnson Rd, increasing service frequency for Bertram residents at the following times:

Every 10-20 minutes during weekday peak periods
Every 30 minutes during weekday off peak periods
Every 30 minutes during the day on Saturdays and Sundays.
View a map of the proposed new Route 544.

https://www.mysaytransport.wa.gov.au/pr ... -route-544

We are seeking community feedback on a proposed new bus route (Route 233) which would operate between Gosnells and Cockburn Central stations, via Southern River, Harrisdale and Piara Waters. To facilitate the introduction of this new route, changes would be made to routes 210 and 211 in Gosnells and Route 517 in Southern River.

New Route 233

The proposed new bus route provides a more convenient public transport option for residents of Southern River, Harrisdale and Piara Waters by increasing connections to the Transperth network, including improved access to Cockburn Central Station.

It is proposed the route will operate seven days a week at the following times:

Every 15 minutes during weekday peak periods
Every 60 minutes during off peak weekdays, Saturdays and Sundays.
Services would be timed to formally connect with train services at Gosnells Station, with every effort being made to also provide convenient transfers at Cockburn Central Station.

There is also an alternative route which would operate via Aspiri Prom, instead of Armadale Rd, taking between three to five minutes longer.

Changes to Routes 210 & 211

To reduce overlap with the proposed Route 233 and in order to make routes 210 and 211 more direct and improve community access in areas not currently well served by public transport, Transperth is proposing to make the following route changes:

Route 210 would travel a more direct path along Fremantle Rd to Gosnells Station. The service would no longer travel along George, Crandon, King or Eudoria Streets, or Stalker Rd. Residents currently boarding services at these locations would need to use routes 231 or 232 or board along Fremantle Rd (between George and Wheatley St). We anticipate that residents of north western Gosnells will benefit from improved public transport access.
Route 211 would travel a more direct path to Gosnells Station travelling along Corfield St before joining Dorothy St, and would no longer travel along Anaconda Dr or Compton Rd. Residents currently boarding services at these locations would need to either:
Use routes 231 or 232
Board along Corfield St on the revised Route 211
Board along Southern River Rd on the proposed Route 233.
There are no proposed changes to where the current routes 231 and 232 operate.

Change to Route 517

The introduction of Route 233 and increasing residential development in the area requires a change to Route 517 in Southern River. Route 517 is currently operating on a temporary route through Southern River, awaiting completion of the road network east of Park Lake.

It is proposed that Route 517 will operate north of Park Lake (along Castlewood Pkwy, Didcot and Balfour Streets), providing a more convenient option for residents closer to Bletchley Park and Southern Grove Primary Schools. Residents south of Park Lake will be served by the new Route 233 on Southern River Rd.

Deviations to Southern River College would continue to operate, however will do so within the new route.

View a map of the proposed new Route 233 and changes to Routes 210, 211 and 517.

https://www.mysaytransport.wa.gov.au/pr ... nd-changes

We are seeking community feedback on an extension of all Route 567 trips from its current termination point on Heritage Park Dr to Sixty Eight Rd in Baldivis. Transperth currently operate a limited number of School Day only trips to Sixty Eight Rd.

This change would see the Transperth network provide more convenient public transport access for Brightwood and Paramount estates.

There is no change to frequency or operating hours, with Route 567 continuing to operate at the following times:

Every 20 minutes during weekday peak periods
Every 60 minutes during the day, on Saturdays and Sundays.
Buses would formally connect with train services at Warnbro Station.

View a map of the proposed extension to Route 567.

Please note, Route 566 will continue to terminate on Heritage Park Dr until further developments of the road network west of Baldivis Rd.

https://www.mysaytransport.wa.gov.au/pr ... -route-567


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We are seeking community feedback on a proposed new bus service (Route 338) which would operate between Henley Brook Bus Station and the Ellenbrook Town Centre, via Aveley East.

This new route would provide a more convenient public transport option for Aveley residents, east of the existing Route 337.

The service is proposed to operate Monday to Saturday at the following times:

Every 20 minutes during weekday peak periods
Every 60 minutes during off peak weekdays and on Saturdays.
Services would be timed to formally connect with Route 955 buses to Bassendean Station at Henley Brook Bus Station.

View a map of the proposed new Route 338.

https://www.mysaytransport.wa.gov.au/pr ... -route-338


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The only one of these I have any real interest in is the proposed Route 233.

I would imagine there will be some pushback by Gosnells residents moving them onto the
231/232 because of the re-alignment of the 210 and 211.

As for the
233, I would imagine proposed alternate route through Piara Waters via Greywacke/Aspiri/Fanshawe instead of Armadale Rd would be favoured by locals as it would entail less of a walk and not having to cross Armadale Rd to access. This section was used as a deviation for the 519 during the Armadale Rd upgrade over the past year.

I had a look at the proposed
338 and whilst I feel it's a good addition to the Aveley area, I suspect it will suffer from the same poor off peak loadings as seen by the current 334 and 336 - in fact there were reductions to service levels of these routes in August due to poor patronage. I would imagine it would be hoped to increase once the train makes it to Ellenbrook. Time will tell.
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The aforementioned changes have been compiled into a single page on the Transperth Website: Proposed Bus Service Changes

As with busdriver12, I think the Greywacke/Aspiri/Fanshawe route of the 233 would be preferred among residents, being closer in proximity to houses as well as having now direct access to Aspiri Primary School.
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The change to create a 148 via Melville SHS is an interesting step, particularly given there is no mention of the existing extended 500 service being deleted. It presently connects with the 766 School Special (or is at least supposed to).

Prior to the changes that saw the 766 truncated to Booragoon, to connect with a 500 extending to Fremantle via the 158 route, the 766 used to travel from Melville SHS to Canning Hwy/Irwin St (the next stop after Stammers) via Potts St, L Leach Hwy, L North Lake Rd, R Hislop Rd, L Wichmann Rd, L Roberts Rd, L Moreing Rd, R Lutey St, L Stock Rd, R Canning Hwy. This old service seemed relatively busy, whereas the 500 only carries the odd student and worker from the shops. Perhaps this new 148, being a more direct service that does away with the transfer mid-journey will attract greater patronage.

I imagine the extra routes out of Cockburn will be welcomed, the only issue I can see is with added congestion around Cockburn Gateway. The placement of the stand for services inbound to Cockburn is inappropriate, and encourages just one bus to load/unload at a time. There is also the more general problem of congestion around the shopping centre - services outbound from Cockburn often experience heavy delays during peak periods due to the sheer volume of cars coming in and out of the area.
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