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Re: Timetable project of mine

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:02 am
by busdriver12
shinjiman wrote:"Bus Timetable 87" exists on 20171119, 20180128 and now 20181007, as the composited timetables along Morrison Road Midland.

Routes included in this timetable are 313, 314, 315, 323, 324, 325 and 327.

As described before this timetable will be updated as a pair from Bus Timetable 86.
Thanks for that. I recall thinking at the time not another composite timetable (I find them pointless to be honest). There are no links to them on the Transperth timetable page and was able to get copies by getting them from the url of them. I am slowly working my way through the changes of 7 Oct (there were 37 of them) and will incorporate this one into that when done.

Re: Timetable project of mine

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 12:45 pm
by busdriver12
Latest lot for 7th October. One omission I've noted with the stand changes in St Georges Tce is the 930 (Timetable 208). This has not been reprinted to show the new stands so I've noted it in the pending section of the spreadsheet.

I've also included the composite
Timetable 87 and it's history - interestingly, there is no direct link to it on the Transperth web site.

Re: Timetable project of mine

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 11:57 am
by Merc1107
This project of yours is an invaluable resource when I start thinking about unfamiliar runs, or runs now relegated to the dustbin of history. Thanks!

Re: Timetable project of mine

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 4:45 am
by shinjiman
Just crawled around the archive.org, seems some of the older timetables can be found in there. :D
  • 2006 or before All types (filter with MIME Type: application/pdf)
  • 2003-2006 All types (filter with MIME Type: application/pdf)
  • 2007-2014 PDFs
  • 2014-current PDFs

Re: Timetable project of mine

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 9:16 pm
by Bus Suggestions
Yes, some of them. Unfortunately, there is very little information on timetables that can be quickly found prior to 2003 as a lot of documents then were given URL links using document upload reference numbers, meaning that to find out which is which requires a lot of opening first (often to one's dismay). Also prior to 2003, timetables were found by website -> Timetables menu -> Timetable categorisation -> Timetable link -> Separate inks to front/back page. Most Wayback Archive crawls never crawled the back page, meaning that route maps were lost. Some timetables were later uploaded as whole PDFs but the archive never crawled any with exception to Armadale 4 and Armadale 11.
From October 2002, timetables were re-categorised to be based on geographical relation to Perth (Northern, Western etc.) rather than the previous basis on major centres (Joondalup, Fremantle etc.). A guide to which timetable became which and what routes they contained is available here: Transperth's New Timetables

And on that note, does anyone have maps of the 8-12(?) series of routes, which as I understand were fairly long through routes from Nedlands to Beckenham, and the long series of routes that ran to the domestic airport?

EDIT: I do believe I forgot that this was Busdriver12's timetable project thread, I do apologise. A part of me thought this was the obscure timetables/bus routes thread. Apologies to those involved.

Re: Timetable project of mine

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 11:05 pm
by shinjiman
Bus Suggestions wrote:Yes, some of them. Unfortunately, there is very little information on timetables that can be quickly found prior to 2003 as a lot of documents then were given URL links using document upload reference numbers, meaning that to find out which is which requires a lot of opening first (often to one's dismay). Also prior to 2003, timetables were found by website -> Timetables menu -> Timetable categorisation -> Timetable link -> Separate inks to front/back page. Most Wayback Archive crawls never crawled the back page, meaning that route maps were lost. Some timetables were later uploaded as whole PDFs but the archive never crawled any with exception to Armadale 4 and Armadale 11.
From October 2002, timetables were re-categorised to be based on geographical relation to Perth (Northern, Western etc.) rather than the previous basis on major centres (Joondalup, Fremantle etc.). A guide to which timetable became which and what routes they contained is available here: Transperth's New Timetables

And on that note, does anyone have maps of the 8-12(?) series of routes, which as I understand were fairly long through routes from Nedlands to Beckenham, and the long series of routes that ran to the domestic airport?
I only remembered the route 8-13 were in Fremantle 18 timetable before separated into 8,10,12 (South Eastern 14) and route 26 (Western 44) respectively.

P.S. Looks Phil's Dropbox link was broken and no longer have access so far. :(

Re: Timetable project of mine

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 7:42 am
by Off The Rails
You can access the spreadsheets through some links on page 2, if the links in his sig isn't working.

Cheers! :wink:

Re: Timetable project of mine

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 9:09 am
by busdriver12
My timetable collection goes back to early 2000's when pdf versions of timetables started appearing on the Transperth web site. Back in those days, timetables were in the Fremantle Midland Armadale Joondalup series .

As for the broken links in my sig, I'll look into fixing that as Dropbox appears to have changed the way files are shared publicly (again!).

Re: Timetable project of mine

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 9:10 am
by busdriver12
My timetable collection goes back to early 2000's when pdf versions of timetables started appearing on the Transperth web site. Back in those days, timetables were in the Fremantle Midland Armadale Joondalup series .

As for the broken links in my sig, I'll look into fixing that as Dropbox appears to have changed the way files are shared publicly (again!).

Re: Timetable project of mine

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 3:26 pm
by busdriver12
Bus Suggestions wrote: And on that note, does anyone have maps of the 8-12(?) series of routes, which as I understand were fairly long through routes from Nedlands to Beckenham, and the long series of routes that ran to the domestic airport?
The only electronic version of those routes I have are in the Armadale 14 timetable (dated 21/7/02) which only has the 8 10 and 12 running between WSBS and Bentley/Beckenham. This is a shortening (breaking up) of most through routed services not long after Swan Transit took over the contract from Perth Bus.

I do have an paper version somewhere but it'll be on paper somewhere. Basically, the
8-13 were through routed services which on the western end had a terminus at Karella St Nedlands for the even numbered services and the other was at Royal Perth Rehab Hospital in Shenton Park for the odd numbered services. On the eastern end, you had the Beckenham terminus in Solar St for the 8 9 12 and 13 and the Bentley terminus in Hedley St (now Hedley Pl) opposite the Bentley library. The 12 and 13 were a combined route on the eastern end going via Bentley and terminating in Beckenham. I've scanned a route map from my 1996 Metrobus driver's manual which would have been taken from timetable A2 at the time.

The eagle eyed of you may spot where the zone boundary is in E Vic Park at the time. That zone boundaruy was moved to it's present day location at Albany/Leach Hwy intersection when the Mandurah line was commissioned in December 2007.

HTH

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Re: Timetable project of mine

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:40 pm
by busdriver12
I believe the download link in my sig is fixed (for now). It appears Dropbox have changed the way files are shared which more than likely created the dead link. I'll admit I am way behind in the project at present as I made the change to Linux on my home PC and it has taken a lot of my available spare time of late. As a result of the change of OS, I will more than likely change the format of the spreadsheet from Microsoft Excel to Libre Office Calc format, but that is a way off for now. Once I get the latest changes included in the project, it'll go to Dropbox and I'll post here.

:)

Re: Timetable project of mine

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 9:01 am
by busdriver12
Just a further note to mention that despite the lack of activity in this forum these days, this project is still on going. Latest version is always in my sig.

Re: Timetable project of mine

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2020 2:22 pm
by shinjiman
Bus Timetable 75 had a minor change for the route 376, where its map was drawn on the other side on The Boulevard, Landsdale. The new one was dated 15/03/2020.