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^ I would also like to add that the original comment I made about those routes is because the 23, 102 and 107 all originally serviced the old Wellington Street Bus Station, however were never returned to Perth Busport since it opened.
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Bus Suggestions wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 11:04 am R Kings Park Rd to resume current route to Fremantle.
Turning left there is pretty tricky in the peak with a bus - wouldn't want to do the right turn in a bus without some alteration to the intersection.
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Enviro 500 wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:38 pm [202/203 and 231/232 are also considered circular routes. Think there are a couple of similar routes in Mandurah too.
Not forgetting the 240 241 and 250 which are also circular routes.
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I think 75 and 177 should swap packages as it makes more sense for CV to supply 75 fleet considering this route terminates there and traverses heavily into Swan Transit's territory. Ideally, Canning and Kalamunda should be under a single command area, ie operating on the same radio network.
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Enviro 500 wrote:I think 75 and 177 should swap packages as it makes more sense for CV to supply 75 fleet considering this route terminates there and traverses heavily into Swan Transit's territory. Ideally, Canning and Kalamunda should be under a single command area, ie operating on the same radio network.
When I remembers for the pre-July 2004, there were routes 10/12 (11/13 for even further pre 2002) and 175 which were their preceding route from current routes 177 and 75 respectively.

While from that period, route 10/12 were in the Welshpool/Claremont contract, and route 175 was in Canning contract
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shinjiman wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:29 pm
Enviro 500 wrote:I think 75 and 177 should swap packages as it makes more sense for CV to supply 75 fleet considering this route terminates there and traverses heavily into Swan Transit's territory. Ideally, Canning and Kalamunda should be under a single command area, ie operating on the same radio network.
When I remembers for the pre-July 2004, there were routes 10/12 (11/13 for even further pre 2002) and 175 which were their preceding route from current routes 177 and 75 respectively.

While from that period, route 10/12 were in the Welshpool/Claremont contract, and route 175 was in Canning contract
All the more reinforces my point I put across in another topic that the incumbent in Kalamunda should also have Canning and Southern River, with a similar structure of global running as Claremont/Marmion/Joondalup that minimises dead runs.

As for the Freo CAT, it should be defunded. The Red Cat can be operated by private contractors not affiliated with PTA (think Purple Coach, Westwide and the like) in a similar fashion as the Cott Cat while the Blue Cat, being heavily duplicated by local bus routes, can be withdrawn. Additionally, a FTZ surrounded by South Terrace, Ord Street and Queen Victoria Street can be set up.
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The ROute 66 will be withdrawn and be replaced with additional Route 950 buses during peak hour from EQBS to Morley. I think there is duplication with the Route 950. THe Route 66 shares the same bus stop as Route 950. Perhaps if they throw in limited stops for the Route 950, which would service well along the Perth-Morley Route.
Reroute the Route 67. Instead of driving along Beaufort St, the bus should travel along Central Avenue. This will provide more access to bus services along Central Ave. As the bus approaches the roundabout, the bus will turn right onto Hamer Parade. The bus will continue to drive along Walter Rd W. As the bus approaches Grand Prom, the bus will turn left and continue its normal journey to Mirrabooka.
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For me continued with 449 change route.

449 Warwick - Dayton (Via Beach Rd & Marshall Rd)

Malaga Extension
449 Will extended to Dayton from Malaga. This bus will Terminated at Dayton Community centre.
From Warwick
Continued normal Rd until Malaga, Marshall Rd, R Beechboro Rd, L Bridgeman Dr, L Waterway Ps, R Bennet Springs Dr, L Altone Rd, R Marshall Rd, Dayton Bvd, R Arthur St, Community Centre
To Warwick
Arthur Rd, L Dayton Bvd, Marshall Rd, L Altone Rd, R Bennett Springs Dr, L Waterway Ps, R Bridgeman Dr, R Beechboro Rd, L Marshall Rd, Continued normal 449 route.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Lm1YEA ... sp=sharing

MidlandExtension
and also will had additional school service morning and afternoon that extend to Midland Station.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1KP15Ko ... sp=sharing
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Shoudy Chen wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 5:33 pm The ROute 66 will be withdrawn and be replaced with additional Route 950 buses during peak hour from EQBS to Morley. I think there is duplication with the Route 950. THe Route 66 shares the same bus stop as Route 950. Perhaps if they throw in limited stops for the Route 950, which would service well along the Perth-Morley Route.
Reroute the Route 67. Instead of driving along Beaufort St, the bus should travel along Central Avenue. This will provide more access to bus services along Central Ave. As the bus approaches the roundabout, the bus will turn right onto Hamer Parade. The bus will continue to drive along Walter Rd W. As the bus approaches Grand Prom, the bus will turn left and continue its normal journey to Mirrabooka.
Yeah nah, there's already 950s running from Morley every 2 mins in the morning peak, even limited stop is overdone... and the 67 should stay to service the folk along Beaufort St, who need to utilise it to get to Dianella Plaza & Mirrabooka; pax can always get off at Walter Rd or Alexander Drive if they want to use other services; there just needs to be more 6768s from Perth in the evening peak between 5-6.30pm.
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Reroute the Route 75. There is a bit of duplication with the ROute 72 from the city to Curtin. After the bus drives from Vic Park Bus Station, the bus should turn right onto Albany Hwy and drive past Victoria Park Shopping Centre. The bus would turn right onto McMillan St (to cater for more services along the road). Route 284 doesn't operate on WEekends and Public Holidays. THe bus would turn left onto Berwick Street. The bus should turn right onto Canterbury Terrace and left onto Devenish St. The bus would turn right onto Riverview Road and turn left onto Jarrah Road. After that, the bus would continue driving along Adie Court and continue its service to curtin. The bus would then continue its service down to Canning Vale.
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for me I would change some stand in some route for Elizabeth Quay

STAND CHANGES

Stand A (this stand is just for bus that goes to William St)
A1
114/115 to East Perth Station (see below for Change)
30/31/34 to Perth Busport

A2
Blue Cat

A3
66 to Morley Bus Station (althought i actually think is better for 66 to move to Perth busport because it duplicate 950. Also when 67/68 move to busport i am not really into it i prefer Route 66 that move to busport rather than 67/68.

Stand C (this stand is just route goes pass Kwinana Fwy bridge)
C1
34 to Cannington Station
35 to South Perth

C2
30 to Curtin Uni Bus Station
31 to Salter Point

C3
114 to Munster
115 to Hamilton Hill
160 to Fremantle



ROUTE CHANGES/EXTENSION

Route 102/107
I would extended to East Perth WACA from Elizabeth Quay (Via 111/160 route)


Route 114/115

I would extended to East Perth Station from Elizabeth Quay
via WIlliam St, Wellington St, Bennett St, Brook St, East Parade and terminates in the East side of East Perth Station.
the reason is to make conneftion for Wellington St/East perth residence to Elizabeth Quay

Route 24
I would change the route to Fraser quay
from Adelaide Tce, Hill St, Terrace Rd, Plain St, Riverside Dr and vice versa


Route 26/103
I would extended to route to Fraser point from Terrace rd
from Adelaide Tce, Hill St, Terrace Rd, Plain St, Riverside Dr and vice versa
also the old terrace bus northbound bus stop will be installed again

Route 27
I would move terminus from WACA to Fraser point
from Adelaide Tce, Hill St, Terrace Rd, Plain St, Riverside Dr and vice versa

I would also consider all WACA route (111/160/102/107) to extend to East Perh Station.
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pasha241 wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 8:16 pm for me I would change some stand in some route for Elizabeth Quay

STAND CHANGES

Stand A (this stand is just for bus that goes to William St)
A1
114/115 to East Perth Station (see below for Change)
30/31/34 to Perth Busport

A2
Blue Cat

A3
66 to Morley Bus Station (althought i actually think is better for 66 to move to Perth busport because it duplicate 950. Also when 67/68 move to busport i am not really into it i prefer Route 66 that move to busport rather than 67/68.

Stand C (this stand is just route goes pass Kwinana Fwy bridge)
C1
34 to Cannington Station
35 to South Perth

C2
30 to Curtin Uni Bus Station
31 to Salter Point

C3
114 to Munster
115 to Hamilton Hill
160 to Fremantle



ROUTE CHANGES/EXTENSION

Route 102/107
I would extended to East Perth WACA from Elizabeth Quay (Via 111/160 route)


Route 114/115

I would extended to East Perth Station from Elizabeth Quay
via WIlliam St, Wellington St, Bennett St, Brook St, East Parade and terminates in the East side of East Perth Station.
the reason is to make conneftion for Wellington St/East perth residence to Elizabeth Quay

Route 24
I would change the route to Fraser quay
from Adelaide Tce, Hill St, Terrace Rd, Plain St, Riverside Dr and vice versa


Route 26/103
I would extended to route to Fraser point from Terrace rd
from Adelaide Tce, Hill St, Terrace Rd, Plain St, Riverside Dr and vice versa
also the old terrace bus northbound bus stop will be installed again

Route 27
I would move terminus from WACA to Fraser point
from Adelaide Tce, Hill St, Terrace Rd, Plain St, Riverside Dr and vice versa

I would also consider all WACA route (111/160/102/107) to extend to East Perh Station.
Wonder if the Yellow Cat can be extended to East Perth Rail Terminal as well.
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Enviro 500 wrote: Wed May 26, 2021 10:56 am
pasha241 wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 8:16 pm for me I would change some stand in some route for Elizabeth Quay

STAND CHANGES

Stand A (this stand is just for bus that goes to William St)
A1
114/115 to East Perth Station (see below for Change)
30/31/34 to Perth Busport

A2
Blue Cat

A3
66 to Morley Bus Station (althought i actually think is better for 66 to move to Perth busport because it duplicate 950. Also when 67/68 move to busport i am not really into it i prefer Route 66 that move to busport rather than 67/68.

Stand C (this stand is just route goes pass Kwinana Fwy bridge)
C1
34 to Cannington Station
35 to South Perth

C2
30 to Curtin Uni Bus Station
31 to Salter Point

C3
114 to Munster
115 to Hamilton Hill
160 to Fremantle



ROUTE CHANGES/EXTENSION

Route 102/107
I would extended to East Perth WACA from Elizabeth Quay (Via 111/160 route)


Route 114/115

I would extended to East Perth Station from Elizabeth Quay
via WIlliam St, Wellington St, Bennett St, Brook St, East Parade and terminates in the East side of East Perth Station.
the reason is to make conneftion for Wellington St/East perth residence to Elizabeth Quay

Route 24
I would change the route to Fraser quay
from Adelaide Tce, Hill St, Terrace Rd, Plain St, Riverside Dr and vice versa


Route 26/103
I would extended to route to Fraser point from Terrace rd
from Adelaide Tce, Hill St, Terrace Rd, Plain St, Riverside Dr and vice versa
also the old terrace bus northbound bus stop will be installed again

Route 27
I would move terminus from WACA to Fraser point
from Adelaide Tce, Hill St, Terrace Rd, Plain St, Riverside Dr and vice versa

I would also consider all WACA route (111/160/102/107) to extend to East Perh Station.
Wonder if the Yellow Cat can be extended to East Perth Rail Terminal as well.
the problem if yellow cat extended there it will divert a lot so better to put yellow cat still in claisbrook
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Some ideas I've had for more cross-suburban bus routes in the northern suburbs, to build up more of a grid network:
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Route 379 Mirrabooka to Bassendean
  • via Yirrigan Dr, Alexander Dr, Widgee Rd, Camboon Rd, Benara Rd, Bottlebrush Dr, Morley Dr E and Ivanhoe St
  • Provides a new connection to Mirrabooka from suburbs east of Alexander Dr
  • Connects Bassendean Station to suburbs in the north west
  • Also connects to the future Noranda station
  • Local connection to Noranda and Beechboro shopping centres
Changes to Routes 346 and 347
  • Both routes would be changed to terminate at Noranda Shopping Centre to improve local access
  • Morley SHS would be served by new route 379
Route 409 Glendalough to Morley
  • via Scarborough Beach Rd, Main St, Royal St, Flinders St, Blythe/Woodrov Av, Alexander Dr, Morley Dr, Wellington Rd
  • Provides a connection to Dianella and Morley from suburbs to the west
  • Connects suburbs east of Wanneroo Rd not near the circleroute to the Joondalup Line
  • Connects Tuart Hill to Glendalough station allowing connections to routes high frequency routes 990 and 407
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