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TP3001's Master Plan

PART 16

Route 342 Route Deleted
Route will be replaced by 900series route which will depart and terminate at the Domestic Airport. More to be found when 900series is published.

Route 343 Route Deleted
Refer to route 293 which will take over its runnings.

Route 344 Morley-Warwick
Times modified to coincide with new route 345. Operates Weekdays and Saturdays.

Route 345 NEW ROUTE Morley-Alexander Heights
Service will operate along route 344 but this service will terminate in Alexander Heights. This will replace all Route 344 short runs. This service will operate throughout Monday-Friday with additional services during Peak and Night time. Service will operate on Saturdays to coincide with route 344 and this service will also operate on Sundays as an alternative to people accessing Alexander Heights on a Sunday.

Route 346 Route Deleted
Route will be replaced by 900series route.

Route 347 Route Deleted
Route will not operate anymore and as an alternative use route 64 for access from Warwick I/C and Wanneroo Rd.

Route 352 Whitfords-Landsdale-Mirrabooka
Service will now be combined routes 352 and 376 and will operate via existing 352 route then via 376 route and vice versa. This route will operate Everyday with Weekend services departing from Mirrabooka and terminating in Landsdale.

Route 354 Route renumbering
Route will be renumbered to display route 871 with increased frequency.

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TP3001 wrote:
Route 352 Whitfords-Landsdale-Mirrabooka
Service will now be combined routes 352 and 376 and will operate via existing 352 route then via 376 route and vice versa. This route will operate Everyday with Weekend services departing from Mirrabooka and terminating in Landsdale.

This route should run on Weekends to Whitfords because west of Landsdale there is no bus service on weekends untill you hit Wanneroo road and south to the 372 terminus near the farm school. People in this area deserve a weekend service as its one of the fastest growing areas in WA. And I hate having to go through Mirrabooka to go to the city on Saturday it takes to long and I dont feel safe going through there after having a trip where one of the locals went off at all the Asians on the bus - bus it to the train is a lot quicker for me.
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laptop15 wrote:
TP3001 wrote:
Route 352 Whitfords-Landsdale-Mirrabooka
Service will now be combined routes 352 and 376 and will operate via existing 352 route then via 376 route and vice versa. This route will operate Everyday with Weekend services departing from Mirrabooka and terminating in Landsdale.

This route should run on Weekends to Whitfords because west of Landsdale there is no bus service on weekends untill you hit Wanneroo road and south to the 372 terminus near the farm school. People in this area deserve a weekend service as its one of the fastest growing areas in WA. And I hate having to go through Mirrabooka to go to the city on Saturday it takes to long and I dont feel safe going through there after having a trip where one of the locals went off at all the Asians on the bus - bus it to the train is a lot quicker for me.
I had a feeling someone was going to mention that.
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TP3001's Master Plan

PART 17

Route 363 WSBS-Kingsway City
No Change

Route 365 Mirrabooka-Kingsway City
No Change

Route 370 Route renumbering
Route will be renumbered Route 872 and will undergo minor changes.

Route 371 Mirrabooka-Landsdale
Ex 372 will extend to Landsdale.

Route 372 Route Renumbering
Route to be renumbered route 371 and extends to Landsdale.

Route 372 NEW ROUTE Westminster-WSBS
This service is a short run which will replace some short runs currently done by route 347. This service only operates morning peak to the city.

Route 373 WSBS-Kingsway City
No Change

Route 374 WSBS-Kingsway City
Additional services to operate during Peak.

Route 375 Mirrabooka-Kingsway City
Service to have improved frequency and service now extends to Kingsway City.

Route 376 Route Deleted
Route replaced by route 352 or 372.

Route 377 Mirrabooka-Alexander Heights
No Change

Route 378 Mirrabooka-Alexander Heights
Service will now extend to 377 Terminus.

Route 379 Route Deleted
Service will not operate with some 378's not deviating through Ballajura.

Route 381 Route Renumbering
Route will be renumbered route 781Coastal Explorer.

Route 390 Joondalup-Banksia Grove
No Change

Route 391 Joondalup-Banksia Grove
No Change

Route 392 NEW ROUTE Joondalup-Tapping-Ashby-Wanneroo-Ashby
Service will operate through the suburbs mentioned above and will terminate north of Lake Joondalup. Route has not been decided yet. This service is meant to provide a suburb to suburb service.

PART 18 due soon with 400series routes next in the Master Plan.
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TP3001's Master Plan

PART 18

Route 400 Route Renumbering
Route will be renubered into the 900series.

Route 401 WSBS-Stirling
Additional peak services to operate where needed.

Route 402 WSBS-Stirling
Additional services to operate where needed. Improvements will be made to ease congestion on Scarborough Beach Rd.

Route 407 Herdsman Park Loop
Minor changes will be made to improve connections with trains to and from Perth.

Route 408 Rotue Renumbering
Route will be renumbered into the 900series.

Route 410 Stirling-Scarborough Beach
No Change

Route 411 Stirling-Scarborough Beach
No Change

Route 412 Stirling-Scarborough
Additional services will operate during the day.

Route 413 Stirling-Glendalough
Service will have additional services in place on weekdays.

Route 414 Stirling-Glendalough
Service will have additional services in place on weekdays.

Route 415 NEW ROUTE Stirling Loop
This new route will serve parts of route 414 and parts of the newly developed estate. Service will operate every day with limited sunday service.

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busdriver12 wrote:
TP3001 wrote:
Route 413 Stirling-Glendalough
Service will have additional services in place on weekdays.
Unless patronage has improved significantly over the past few years, this service will remain for peak periods.
Yes true.
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TP3001's Master Plan Update

Due to over flow in personal stuff part 19 will be ready mid next week. I would like to apologise to those people who look forward to the plans or enjoy them.

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TP3001 wrote:TP3001's Master Plan

PART 17
TP3001 wrote: Route 370 Route renumbering
Route will be renumbered Route 872 and will undergo minor changes.
I like it (I hate 370...why it existed is beyond me)
TP3001 wrote: Route 371 Mirrabooka-Landsdale
Ex 372 will extend to Landsdale.
Route 372 Route Renumbering
Route to be renumbered route 371 and extends to Landsdale.
Route 372 NEW ROUTE Westminster-WSBS
This service is a short run which will replace some short runs currently done by route 347. This service only operates morning peak to the city.
Mock up a sample TT teeps!!!...I'm still out on this one!
TP3001 wrote: Route 374 WSBS-Kingsway City
Additional services to operate during Peak.
Probably, maybe, could work, but jeez the patronage has nosedived on this route since the "24" heyday.
TP3001 wrote: Route 381 Route Renumbering
Route will be renumbered route 781Coastal Explorer.
I like it "Coastal Explorer"....but the 700s seem to be disappearing from route service to school service
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If you delete 347 as mentioned in your ideas, which is great u are being so thorough, what do u propose to service Eglinton Crescent during the day?

Route 64 maybe?

Route 342 should be left as it is as it was only meant to give linkage to central Vic Park for Belmont Residents, and give service to parts of Vic park (ie King George St/Jarrah Rd) whilst giving an extra service to Curtin.

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TP3001 wrote:TP3001's Master Plan

PART 17

Route 363 WSBS-Kingsway City
No Change

Route 365 Mirrabooka-Kingsway City
No Change

Route 370 Route renumbering
Route will be renumbered Route 872 and will undergo minor changes.

Route 371 Mirrabooka-Landsdale
Ex 372 will extend to Landsdale.

Route 372 Route Renumbering
Route to be renumbered route 371 and extends to Landsdale.

Route 372 NEW ROUTE Westminster-WSBS
This service is a short run which will replace some short runs currently done by route 347. This service only operates morning peak to the city.

Route 373 WSBS-Kingsway City
No Change

Route 374 WSBS-Kingsway City
Additional services to operate during Peak.

Route 375 Mirrabooka-Kingsway City
Service to have improved frequency and service now extends to Kingsway


Route 381 Route Renumbering
Route will be renumbered route 781Coastal Explorer.

route 374 should be limited stop's to walcott street then limited stop's from alexander drive to wsbs and a run every 20min's from 7am to 9am then 3pm to 6pm. 375 hardly get's any passangers so delete it and refer to the 64.
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TP1854 wrote: route 374 should be limited stop's to walcott street then limited stop's from alexander drive to wsbs and a run every 20min's from 7am to 9am then 3pm to 6pm. 375 hardly get's any passangers so delete it and refer to the 64.
does 375 still go into Sylvia Street Nollamara? Its been years since I been on the 375
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To be honest I'm not entirely sure of the specifics here but how about something along the lines of:

78 - CLOCKWISE Perth-UWA-SCGH-Perth
79 - ANTI-CLOCKWISE Perth-SCGH-UWA-Perth
88 - CLOCKWISE Perth-UWA-SCGH-Perth via "loop"
89 - ANTI-CLOCKWISE Perth-SCGH-UWA-Perth via "loop"

loop = Broadway-Princess-hackett
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Leyland B21 wrote:If you delete 347 as mentioned in your ideas, which is great u are being so thorough, what do u propose to service Eglinton Crescent during the day?

Route 64 maybe?

Route 342 should be left as it is as it was only meant to give linkage to central Vic Park for Belmont Residents, and give service to parts of Vic park (ie King George St/Jarrah Rd) whilst giving an extra service to Curtin.

Jase
I'll get back to you on the 347. Remind me though. As mentioned route 64 would be an alternative but services along Wanneroo Rd would be changed to accomodate a two 900series services to operate along the route. As for the 342 it will be replaced by a 900series service from the airport and will operate as a service link between Curtin Uni and the Domestic Airport.
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insert_coin wrote:
TP3001 wrote: Route 371 Mirrabooka-Landsdale
Ex 372 will extend to Landsdale.
Route 372 Route Renumbering
Route to be renumbered route 371 and extends to Landsdale.
Route 372 NEW ROUTE Westminster-WSBS
This service is a short run which will replace some short runs currently done by route 347. This service only operates morning peak to the city.
Mock up a sample TT teeps!!!...I'm still out on this one!
TP3001 wrote: Actually a sudden change to the New Route 372. I've just revieved my plans and with the 900series to operate strongly on Wanneroo Rd route 371 will stay as Route 372 but with the extension to Landsdale.
Route 374 WSBS-Kingsway City
Additional services to operate during Peak.
Probably, maybe, could work, but jeez the patronage has nosedived on this route since the "24" heyday.Under consideration as I am aware of the patronage.
TP3001 wrote: Route 381 Route Renumbering
Route will be renumbered route 781Coastal Explorer.
I like it "Coastal Explorer"....but the 700s seem to be disappearing from route service to school service
Yes well. Tough luck for transperth. Transperth can renumber them something else as I am not involved with creating school routes.
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TP3001's Master Plan Update

PART 19 should be ready by tomorrow or Thursday. Thank you for your patience.
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TP3001's Master Plan

PART 19

Route 421 Scarborough Beach-Stirling
NO CHANGE

Route 423 Stirling I/C-Warwick I/C
Service will have additional services added on a Saturday and Sunday with Saturday to have a 45min frequency and Sunday services to run every hour.

Route 424 Stirling I/C-Karrinyup
A few additional services to operate during peak and school time.

Route 425 Stirling I/C-Warwick I/C
Minor Changes

Route 426 Stirling I/C-Karrinyup
A few additional services to operate during peak and school time.

Route 427 Stirling I/C-Warwick I/C
This service will have an improved peak service.

Route 435 Stirling I/C-Warwick I/C
This after hours service will have improved Sunday services with services every hour.

A short one but the next one will come soon...
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busdriver12 wrote:
TP1854 wrote:route 374 should be limited stop's to walcott street then limited stop's from alexander drive to wsbs and a run every 20min's from 7am to 9am
then 3pm to 6pm. 375 hardly get's any passangers so delete it and refer to the 64.
The 374 used to have a limited stops pattern during peak periods up until about 4 or 5 years ago. From my experience, limited stops along Wanneroo Rd in peak periods is a waste of time. That's because of the volume of traffic and the nature of traffic lights, you get nowhere fast like an all stops service. I can recall when running the (now defunct) 888 service, the 888 was like a 346 during peaks as it got held up just as much in the bottlenecks. Unless the geography or capacity of Wanneroo Rd has improved, limited stops is pointless.

IIRC, the
375 route was created upon the commencement of Mirrabooka Bus Station in 1979. It provided a link to Nollamara Shopping Centre from Balga/Girrawheen and also to Mirrabooka Shopping Centre. As a note of interest, the loop that it does via Hewitt Way Balga (off Cartwright Rd) is to service the old 353 terminus which from memory was deleted when Mirrabooka Bus Station came into operation. My memory is a little fuzzy but I think it's close to the mark.

yes bus driver 12 the 375 goes right of muswell st into cartwright st right into hewitt rd then right back into muswell st to resume normal route. I know this as i live on one of these streets above.
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TP3001's Master Plan

PART 20

Route 441 Warwick I/C-Whitfords I/C
NO CHANGE

Route 442 Warwick I/C-Whitfords I/C
NO CHANGE

Route 443 Warwick I/C-Whitfords I/C
NO CHANGE

Route 444 Warwick I/C-Whitfords I/C
NO CHANGE

Route 445 Warwick I/C-Whitfords I/C
Route will now travel via Route 449 then will resume normal route. Service will not travel via Eglinton Cr during Peak Periods.

Route 446 Warwick I/C-Whitfords I/C
NO CHANGE

Route 447 Warwick I/C-Whitfords I/C
NO CHANGE

Route 449 Warwick I/C-Warwick Grove-Warwick I/C
Additional services to operate during peak periods to replace some 347's. Service will now become a loop service and will travel back to Warwick I/C on most services.

Route 452 Warwick I/C-Whitfords I/C
NO CHANGE

Route 455 Warwick I/C-Whitfords I/C
NO CHANGE

Route 456 Greenwood Train Station-Hillarys Boat Harbour
NO CHANGE

Route 457 Warwick I/C-Whitfords I/C
NO CHANGE

Route 458 Scarborough Beach-Whitfords I/C
Service will be renumbered 782 "NORTH COAST EXPLORER". More info will be released when the 700series are reached.

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Tp3001 some of those 700 route numbers you have put up are school special service. So you might have to renumber a few route's.
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TP1854 wrote:Tp3001 some of those 700 route numbers you have put up are school special service. So you might have to renumber a few route's.
Nah How about Transperth renumber them?
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TP3001 wrote:
TP1854 wrote:Tp3001 some of those 700 route numbers you have put up are school special service. So you might have to renumber a few route's.
Nah How about Transperth renumber them?
Well, they have....that's what I alluded to previously - 700s seem to have been renumbered for school specials exclusively which is not entirely a bad idea teeps.
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insert_coin wrote:
TP3001 wrote:
Nah How about Transperth renumber them?
Well, they have....that's what I alluded to previously - 700s seem to have been renumbered for school specials exclusively which is not entirely a bad idea teeps.
Yeah It's too late for me to change it now.
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Does the 888 bus only stops 3 times before it gets to Dianella?
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Hi All
Just a question on bus route numbering - is there any feasability in allocating blocks of route numbers to each contract, or geographic area, or will that limit future expansion of route services?

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This practice is already partly in use, but I'm unsure of the allocations at the moment. But I do know 500-599 is allocated to the Mandurah Line.
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