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Is there a possibility that DPTI might scrap the whole idea of the re-numbering of routes?
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Definitely not. Only minor adjustments to routes/route numbers could occur after public consultation.
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Seems strange that the 300/301 Suburban Connector which is meant to be a connecting service will go right past the Airport but doesn't actually go in to the Airport
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soak01 wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2020 3:57 pm Seems strange that the 300/301 Suburban Connector which is meant to be a connecting service will go right past the Airport but doesn't actually go in to the Airport
Would add another 10 minutes to the route.
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jibb wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2020 4:04 pm
soak01 wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2020 3:57 pm Seems strange that the 300/301 Suburban Connector which is meant to be a connecting service will go right past the Airport but doesn't actually go in to the Airport
Would add another 10 minutes to the route.
Maybe a few of the 300/301 runs could go through the airport
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Passengers to/from the Airport can connect with the Go-Zone Route 1 service that travels between the City and the Airport on Sir Donald Bradman Drive ,anywhere between Airport Road and Marion Road.
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It looks like the J1X service will no longer exist with these changes. Wonder where the 1790 Double Decker will end up?
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The only place it could possibly go to is My Barker for the 840X service's
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jibb wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2020 10:33 am It looks like the J1X service will no longer exist with these changes. Wonder where the 1790 Double Decker will end up?
Would it just fit under the pedestrian overpass at Noarlunga Centre , if so it could be used on one of the T services
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The proposed X82 (840X) is proposed to run from 5.45am through to 10pm on weekdays????? Surely that must be a mistake.
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The 840X does not serve Crafers park and ride. What good will it be for those wanting to travel to Stirling or the surrounding areas?
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None, because it’s a Mount Barker service?

Stirling still has the half hourly 81/82. Why should people wishing to travel from the city to Mt Barker be made to sit through every town and hamlet in the hills?

If the X82 operates 5:45am-10pm, I will be relived that common sense has finally prevailed. The current 864 is a slow joke of a service. It’s a shame there is no X82 proposed for weekends
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Are they scrapping the 'F' services? As in, will there be F82's or 82F's?
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According to the document, all F buses are scrapped and replaced with all stops, or express/limited stop services
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It wouldn't be a great loss with the 'F' service's disappearing as they currently take 28mins to travel from Stop 13 to the City and the 861's take 30mins. During the inter-peak, the 'F' service's take 22mins vs 23mins for 861's.
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More buses will use Grenfell/Currie Streets-Previously routes G10/G20/G21/G22X/G40 ran along these streets, now under the new plan only 1 route will operate in their place,Route 3 Golden Grove-Tea Tree Plaza-City-Goodwood Road-Marion Shopping Centre.
Routes 281/286/288 ran along North Terrace-they will now use these streets as Routes 12/18.
Admittedly current Route 140/144/144G that used these streets will disappear and current route 147 will become Route 10 and will use King William Street and Wakefield Road/Street.
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leftyandy76 wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2020 6:32 am It wouldn't be a great loss with the 'F' service's disappearing as they currently take 28mins to travel from Stop 13 to the City and the 861's take 30mins. During the inter-peak, the 'F' service's take 22mins vs 23mins for 861's.
It’s not about the time, but the perceived speed of the service. The Saturday 864F “seems” quicker than the Sunday all stops 864, despite them being very similar in travel time.

If you’ve been stopping at every stop since boarding in Mt Barker, GO Rd is just another 10 nails in your coffin
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Re the proposed 711 route, sending buses down the length of Edward Beck Drive will only serve to gridlock the entire area twice every school day. The new route should enter Berrima, left into Edward Beck, right into Great Eastern and left into Young St which is pretty much the exit from Sheidow Park currently. Anything else just won't work.

pp. not having a direct service from Sheidow Park to Hallett Cove Beach stn isn't going to please too many people.

ppp. no bus stops remaining on Brighton Rd between Secombe and Sturt Rds.
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The proposed network is almost equivalent to having a Sunday timetable in effect, albeit with extra peak services. I won't be surprised if some drivers are sacked due to a surplus.

It is not about refinement or improvement. It is merely penny pinching by an anti-PT government.
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TA3001 wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2020 7:52 pm The proposed network is almost equivalent to having a Sunday timetable in effect, albeit with extra peak services. I won't be surprised if some drivers are sacked due to a surplus.

It is not about refinement or improvement. It is merely penny pinching by an anti-PT government.
There will be no reduction in the number of shifts, buses or drivers-this is purely and simply rearranging the deck chairs to fir the budget.
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The increase in length of Go Zones (eg 118 through to Port, 155 to West Lakes) will take up a fair bit of the time saved in axed routes.
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Introduce more bus lanes and properly police them. Anzac Highway should have one running the full length, so should South, Marion and Goodwood Roads. South and Marion ones would join the Anzac Highway one and Goodwood Rd could join the one on West Terrace. That's how you increase patronage. Pollies too scared to do that though.

TA3001 is correct in that it's not about refinement or improvement. It's more like a beached fish flapping around in the shallows trying not to die.
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It seems that Nairne has lost its city services (841F, T842 & 842x) and that it has all become apart of the 82 from Mount Barker and the X82 none of which seem to go to Nairne when I looked at the new network map. And why do they have to get rid of the 'F' services :cry:
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T3331 wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 2:36 pm And why do they have to get rid of the 'F' services
How many variations does a single route need, and more importantly, how many more resources are expended providing additional all-stop services to fill in the gaps?

As I've repeatedly said, I'm an outsider, but I still haven't figured out the difference between some of the T buses versus the F buses. They both seem like a limited stop service, so why not just have one and save the confusion? Route consolidation isn't going to win everyone's favour, particularly where express or limited stops workings are lost to an all-stops service, but if that bus comes more frequently it probably makes up for the longer journey time.
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The original idea of the Transit Link or TL service's was to stop at certain stops and was between an 'F' service and an 'X' service.
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