Wow! It's great to see Transdev thinking quite out the box on this, not just modest tweaks to cut duplication or add the odd new link. As with all network reviews, some good and some bad, not sure it's going to work in it's current form, but some giant leaps that could improve parts of the network.
A dramatic change to the 903 that appears not to have been touched on yet is the modification to operate via Highpoint instead of Keilor East. I assume this would replace Ryans 468 & along with part of the 215, but give Ryans back exclusive rights along Buckley St, one of Melbourne's busiest train feeder routes. This should make a stronger corridor for the 903. Will be interesting how such a change would impact the planned Brimbank network changes, with the plans suggesting 408 will be diverted off McIntyre Rd to avoid duplication with 903 in Sunshine North.
I also note with interest planned changes to the DART network:
As mentioned by
jamesadams7, 905 will no longer hop on the freeway at Bulleen Rd but appears to incorporate Kilby Rd in North Kew (traditionally a well served corridor but via Studley Park Rd & Johnston St). Hopefully this would incorporate a stop near the Kew Cottages housing estate, which currently only has a limited weekday service. Sending the 207 on the slight detour via Kilby Rd and Princess St instead of direct down High St would retain a direct Kew service for these residents. It's not clear if the bus would continue to Altona via the 232, although I note both routes share the same colour.
906 would appear to have been dropped, at least as a DART service - one would hope that it would be at least kept as a peak express route (especially given the demand it receives), although I'd argue there'd be more value sending the 906 to Ringwood than the 901 to The Pines (as I discuss in more detail below)
907 appears to be extended onto Sunshine via a single alignment through Maidstone & Braybrook. Given both the 216/219 and 220 corridors are well used in the west, this could prove controversial if the other roads don't at least receive a "local direct" level of service. As the existing Footscray depot cross-town routes show, long routes via the CBD are often subject to reliability issues, so we can only hope runtimes are robust enough.
908 appears unchanged.
305 upgraded to become a new DART route for George St, however instead of running along Manningham Rd and Thompsons Rd, it will instead follow Doncaster Rd to the freeway. This would solve the issue of deviating the 305 out of it's way for Shoppingtown passengers, but not sure there needs to be two DART routes less than a kilometre apart. The 305 however already receives a good service at most times (e.g 15 min off-peak between Shoppingtown & The Pines, 30 mins weekends between Bulleen & The Pines), so only a modest upgraded needed.
309 also becomes a DART service west of The Pines, replacing the 901 SmartBus along Reynolds Rd - probably a more logical choice than these residents having a SmartBus route to Blackburn or Greensborough. Two DART routes on High Street allow a downgrade of service levels on 908 in the inter-peak to 20 mins less controversial (as suggested in the
contract document).
jamesadams7 wrote:250/1/3 have been rationalised into one route, but only to Port Melbourne and not to Garden City. It will also terminate at Queen Vic Market rather than through running, with a separate northern route between Clifton Hill Stn and Northland (orange lines)
I also note the of merging the 250 & 340 (as per the bus review), while 246 appears to be now just as Elsternwick - Clifton Hill route. La Trobe Uni students in Thornbury will now have to travel via Northland & change buses, but the 903 west changes would appear to accommodate these students reasonably well (in addition to the current 550).
jamesadams7 wrote:The 200/1/3/5/7 routes appear to have been truncated into one route between the City and Kew (?), or possibly the Willsmere roundabout. This would require interchange for most of the former passengers travelling towards Kew or the university, a service which is at capacity each morning peak. (yellow line)
Without seeing a full version of the map, it is possible that the yellow line represents a common "premium" corridor, rather a single route. Maybe beyond Kew Junction only selected trips continue to Doncaster as per the current 201 or 207, but not a full premium route. It would be silly to truncate the routes from the north-east at Kew Junction with a change onto another bus along Studley Park Rd and Johnston St.
It's not clear to me if all Belmore Rd buses still reach the City on that map, it does appear that the freeway section is shown as a dotted line (peak only perhaps?). I'd personally like to see the Belmore Rd route run via Kew Junction at all times outside the peak, but upgraded to full SmartBus standards as compensation for the slight increase in journey times to those travelling from Balwyn North.
jamesadams7 wrote:As mentioned above, two new routes to Victoria Gardens from Elsternwick via Williams Rd, and Orrong Rd, before merging at Burnley Station onto Burnley St (red and green lines)
It would be great if this idea finally takes off, and should hopefully relieve both corridors which currently just duplicate the CBD train and tram options from the inner south-east, and carry low to moderate patronage for their generous service levels. In the current form they are a little more than a historic accident that dates back to separate fares for trams and private buses and are a drain on limited resources.
I'm not sure if both routes need to operate past Burnley Station though. Two premium routes might be excessive, especially given there is none today.
krustyklo wrote:Well that breaks quite a few journeys! I hope they do a lot more research before going ahead with that network. If nothing else, quite a few people travel between Eltham and Doncaster / Box Hill area - most 902s in peak hour will easily pick up the best part of a dozen people heading for either east of Shoppingtown, Box Hill TAFE changing at Shoppingtown, and Shoppingtown itself. The only option under this network is train to Greensborough or infrequent 513 to the Main Rd roundabout.
Whilst I think swapping the 901 and 902 between Greensborough and Fitzsimmons Lane is a good idea and would make more sense than the current arrangement in some ways...
Looking closer at the map, it would appear the 902 will follow the 293 alignment through Montmorency, instead of straight down Para Rd. This would be a sensible option to rationalise service in this area, meaning no more duplication between the 293 and 902.
As for Eltham losing their direct link to Doncaster Shoppingtown - it may be possible that the 281 would be reinstated back to Eltham as a local direct route, albeit via a slower alignment. This would at least avoid the transfer at Main Rd roundabout.
On Eltham, I have observed that the 902 also provides option for a number of VCE boys from Whitefriars College travelling when they travel outside the times of their 4 overcrowded school buses to/from the wider Eltham area (with change from 271 at Tunstall Square) - this is example where the new network will cut options unintentionally.
Krustyklo wrote:I think that the other issue with this network is that the Smartbus routes have only been introduced in the last 4-5 years. Just as people have gotten used to the possible direct journeys, the route network is set to dramatically change. In at least one extreme case I am aware of, someone bought a house knowing it was on the 902 directly to work east of Doncaster - a journey which will be broken under this plan.
Yes, this is a concern of mine too - one of the issues with bus networks and their legibility is they can subject to change too often, and that can scare off some patronage, sometimes for good - how many times has the Manningham Bus Network been recast now since the late 1980s?!
The SmartBus orbital routes should been seen as more like train and tram corridors, and only subject to once in a generation change. If these changes get up, I can just see in 5 years time we will have another approach for them.
My own marathon trip on the 902 will be disrupted too if these changes go ahead, as it will require me to change to the 907 at Donvale. (OK given that there is a 10 min service on both routes though). While this is still much better any options than existed prior to 2010, it will still be noticeable and will influence future house buying choices I make.
I do wonder if sending the 902 to The Pines is a logical option anyway - although it allows the 273 to be culled, there is moderate patronage from south of Nunawading travelling to Doncaster Shoppingtown & surrounds, whereas in comparison the 273 carries very little passengers north of Doncaster Rd, and The Pines is hardly a destination for those south of Nunawading (who could easily just go to The Glen or Forest Hill Chase). The housing density to the east of Springvale Rd would also not lend itself to a SmartBus corridor. To mention there are many more trip generators & apartments along Doncaster Rd than on the northern end of Springvale Rd, enough that it can probably accommodate two SmartBus routes (even if there is a 10 min service on both).
I do support the idea to run the 902 to the Airport, which will make the trip to Greensborough and Doncaster quicker, and may pick up a few more travellers happy to sacrifice 30 minutes to avoid paying a SkyBus fare and the need to transfer vehicles, however as others have said, it would be a shame for this to happen if meant they would sacrifice the SmartBus between Broadmeadows and Airport West, especially for Gladstone Park residents. Maybe one on the political parities is gearing up to promise the missing section of the green orbital, which could cover Werribee to Broadmeadows and incorporate this section, which would be a good outcome.
RailwayBus wrote:This would be the reason for some of the more interesting changes, ie: 901-south via Warrandyte, which in my opinion makes a lot more sense for Warrandyte than the current bus into the City spending almost all of its route on a freeway or duplicating routes on Blackburn Road, which is complete overkill. A smart bus linking to a shopping centre and a nearby railway station is much more suitable.
Three months ago this was the option on many on the board "
We don't even need smart buses to Warrandyte, let alone an indirect smart bus through the middle of nowhere to Ringwood with bugger-all catchment opportunities. There are plenty of more pressing smart bus requirements than this.", a statement which I would largely agree with. (Many years I ago I naively suggested that the 901 should run via Warrandyte, probably when the original Orbital plans came out, which would have seen the 901 run via Shoppingtown duplicate the 902 along Doncaster Rd and Williamsons Rd).
Extending the 906 to Ringwood would achieve the
same outcome as extending the southern half of the 901 to The Pines - a link to the local shopping centre (The Pines), a link to the local regional shopping centre (Eastland) and a link to a nearby station (Ringwood) - I am not quite sure how this "makes a lot more sense" than the other idea of reinstating the old 304?
As for the 906 duplication along Blackburn Rd with the 286 & 901 - given the lack of a train service in East Doncaster, and the 906 providing the fastest CBD option for these residents, it's hardly overkill - in the peak, despite the 4 to 10 min headways, it's not uncommon for passengers at stops closer to the freeway not even able to board the first bus that arrives due to heavy loadings, and almost all peak services have standing loads. Outside peak times, the route still enjoys moderate loads. The short-term answer to balance demand with service would be to run a 15 min peak frequency from Ringwood and Warrandyte with shortworkings providing a 5 min service between The Pines & CBD, with artics or deckers added as a medium term option.
Of course, the obvious answer to rationalise services on Blackburn Rd is to drop the 286 altogether (with the 273 operating to Blackburn and Box Hill instead of Nunwading to cover the streets east of Surrey Rd & Whitehorse Rd), the SmartBus to Blackburn is adequate enough, and Box Hill passengers can change to a frequent trains.
RailwayBus wrote:only major part of this that I dislike is the 903-west chucking a u-turn in Sunshine and heading in the same general direction that it came in. I think that it would be better for this route to terminate in Sunshine, and have the Footscray leg as a separate route (either stand alone, or linked with whatever replaces the route between Sunshine and Caroline Springs).
It almost seems their thinking was for operational purposes as much as anything - a good way to get 903 drivers back to Footscray for meal breaks, sign on/off etc. It doesn't seem to be a logical link with anything beyond Sunshine, especially as a SmartBus (even your idea would be too indirect from Caroline Springs or Deer Park residents wanting a one-seat ride into Footscray).
I guess the idea is partly to provide a service along Francis Street for the new Bradmill housing estate, but these residents would probably rather a link to Altona Gate Shopping Centre than the back way into Sunshine - a better option from Francis St would be to extend the existing 223 from Highpoint right through to Altona Gate.
RailwayBus wrote:But while on the topic of 903, I'd also shift the terminus of the eastern half from La Trobe to Northland to minimise transfer inconvenience surrounding what is currently a through journey.
Agreed. The 551 can continue to provide a direct link from Heidelberg to La Trobe Uni, maybe with further peak upgrades in due course.
RailwayBus wrote:I'm really liking the extension of the 232 into Altona. This is something I've thought should happen for a long time, and especially now that during the daytime a trip from Altona to Melbourne Central requires three trains.
I still think people will be turned off once they experience a few delays on the Westgate. At the very least, I'd hope any extension had no impact on the 411/412 providing a link from Altona North into Footscray, which run at fairy decent weekday headways (although mediocre on weekends).
RailwayBus wrote:I'm also a little disappointed that their indicative map of premium routes doesn't have anything linking Southland and Sandringham. This would be a great opportunity to consolidate the 600/922/923 with one trunk route (and perhaps a local route to cover anything missed, if required). Hopefully there will still be some consolidation undertaken in this area, even if they remain local routes.
Definitely - the creation of the 600/922/923 was one of the poorer decisions made during the August 2002 network improvements after several successive off-peak upgrades to the 600 during the mid to late 1990s than had built on the success of the original 901 Railway Bus.
Reinstating old 823 loop in Beaumaris would provide adequate enough coverage to the remaining sections for Cheltenham & Southland access, but it should run hourly in each direction, not two-hourly as was the case (and carried very few as a result).
E.L.Wood wrote:The area south of North Road or Elsernwick appears to have been abandoned altogether, perhaps the 600/922/923 would pass to Ventura as compensation for the 703 north of Monash Uni? Presumably the Liberals(if still in power in 2015)wouldn't let services be abandoned in Louise Asher's electorate. But is is only an indicative concept at this stage.
Most in Louise Asher's electorate would be probably happy to see the removal of mostly empty buses from their neighbourhood. I am not saying that in jest either - a decent local service between St Kilda and Sandringham is all that is needed for the area west of the Sandringham line, as CBD commuters simply take the much faster train. Extending the 630 to St Kilda and sending the 600/922/923 to Elsternwick instead could be an alternative option but service rationalisation in Brighton is long overdue.
Meanwhile, the 605 & 625 can cover the slack in the Elsternwick - Gardenvale area (ideally with some modest upgrades to evening and weekend services on 605 that would benefit the whole length of Kooyong Rd).
As for the changes to 703, and being part of Transdev's Greenfields network - this appears to be from left field. Wonder what Ventura thinks of the prospect of losing another of their original routes.
I would have thought running the northern half of 703 down to Clayton was important, but I guess if they want to split the route it has to be done somewhere, and a split at Clayton would cut the direct access to Monash Uni from Bentleigh and Brighton, along with the direct link between the two campuses of Monash Medical Centre. I wonder if the Centre Rd section of the 703 is upgraded as a SmartBus as part of these changes (as compensation to Ventura) or is left with it's current service levels.
Kind Regards
Craig