NSW Railway Observations 2021

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lunchbox wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:53 pm HARBOUR BRIDGE CLOSURE
There's still a lot of timber sleepers. Did they only 'concrete" the down track?
There is a reddit discussion on the sleeper replacement program plus a few nice photos.

The 10 day shut down did not replace the entire span or both lines, still more work to go in similar possessions required

https://www.reddit.com/r/sydney/comment ... _a_10_day/
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boronia wrote: I went past in the bus during the week. There was definitely activity in the middle section.
May have been, but the new track finishes about 20 or so metres south of the southern pylon and commences immediately north of the northern one, all track beneath the span remains untouched.
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Atleast one Tangara Rake on T2 Leppingtons

There appears to have been some T5 workings today that worked to Penrith all before 7am today.
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T5 would have been associated with this alert https://transportnsw.info/alerts/details#/6056617
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As from October 25, 1 x 8T set has been tabled at Weekends to operate Sector 2 services, mainly Macarthur-City-Homebush and return, with a Leppington early trip (0556/0607 hours) and late Sunday night trip (2256/2307 hours) .

This Weekend, January 16 & 17, with a Possession of the City Inner Line, this 8T set is tabled each day to run Leppington-City-Leppington.
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Fleet Lists wrote: Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:44 pm T5 would have been associated with this alert https://transportnsw.info/alerts/details#/6056617
T5 is associated, it says that at the bottom of the page, T5 services divert to Olympic Park.
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There are replacement buses running across the harbour.
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T38 is still alone I saw it parked next to the Metro Bridge near Platform 1 at Central haven't seen this tangara working with another one for over 28 days.
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There's a post on one of the popular railway groups on Facebook that is saying a V-set derailed at Rhodes yesterday, does anyone know anything more about it as there's no news articles? (you'd figure in this society it would've made the news)
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Stonesourscotty wrote: Sun Jan 17, 2021 4:06 pm T38 is still alone I saw it parked next to the Metro Bridge near Platform 1 at Central haven't seen this tangara working with another one for over 28 days.
Maybe doing ATP testing, they wouldn't need 8 cars for that.
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ScaniaGrenda wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 9:32 am There's a post on one of the popular railway groups on Facebook that is saying a V-set derailed at Rhodes yesterday, does anyone know anything more about it as there's no news articles? (you'd figure in this society it would've made the news)
Came across a YouTube video where somebody was showing the 8 car V set in question at Rhodes (think it was 8072 that was slightly off the rails?).

Only other hint was on Twitter, although the official posts mentioned "...a train requiring mechanical repairs at Rhodes earlier...".
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Yes, the catch points did their job.
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Freight train on fire at Hornsby, power had to be cut, major disruptions.

https://7news.com.au/travel/sydney-trai ... -c-2093269
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From SMH today:'
Thinking outside the (signal) box

The signal box, above, has been transformed into a commercial kitchen and bar that services a new steel pavilion, below. Photos: Alexander McIntyre

A creative reimagining of Newcastle’s railway signal box has won a big prize, writes Stephen Crafti.

Sometimes the most significant buildings can be the most modest.

This is certainly the case with the state heritage-listed signal box, adjacent to the Hunter River foreshore in Newcastle.

Originally part of the Newcastle Railway Station Group of 1858 when a number of railways were introduced to NSW, the Newcastle signal box was then rebuilt in 1936, with many of the parts imported from Britain.

The Hunter Central Coast Development Corporation, which oversaw this development, was keen to not only restore and find a new use for this relic, but also create an offering that would respond to the recently completed parkland designed by landscape architects JMD Design.

Reworked and extended by Derive Architecture & Design, who worked closely with heritage architects the Carste Studio, this modest project received the Francis Greenway Heritage Award from the Australian Institute of Architects (NSW).

‘‘It’s those small moments you start to appreciate in these buildings,’’ says architect Jason Elsley, director of Derive Architecture & Design.

In the process, much of the station’s original structures and equipment was discovered, such as the type ‘‘O’’ masonry turntable signal box, and the original precast wrought iron staircase.

With the decision to create a new informal restaurant for local identity Andrew MacDonald and to repurpose the signal box to create the restaurant’s kitchen, there’s a fine meshing of materials and structures through the two buildings.

The new steel pavilion, with its five massive tilt-up glazed doors (each weighing 500 kilograms) allows diners to feel part of the outdoor experience and provides cross ventilation.

While there are no longer railway tracks (they have been embedded in concrete as a reminder) diners can still feel they have arrived on the platform.

The blood-red oxide pavilion and awning, with its expressed streel beams, gives a subtle nod to the past. ‘‘We wanted to acknowledge the Sydney red rattlers that once used the line, as much as the red oxide you see with ships in the port,’’ says Elsley.

Part of the renovation included a curvaceous new external steel staircase that leads to the rooftop above the new pavilion, allowing the public to enjoy a similar vista to that of the station master as far back as 1836 when trains ended their journey here.

Although Elsley and his team hadn’t previously reworked a signal box, he became completely engrossed with every step of the process, appreciating the archaeological digs as much as designing the new work.

‘‘Many of these structures came from the United Kingdom, including the last remaining set of miniature pneumatic lever gears to arrive on our shores.’’

With the pavilion and outdoor seating areas for diners (approximately 250 patrons in total), the signal box was transformed into a galley-style kitchen, along with a bar.

Lightly touched, and incorporating the original steel beams and columns, the signal box at the mezzanine level includes the operating equipment before the heavy rail was decommissioned.

‘‘You don’t have to dine at the restaurant to enjoy seeing the history,’’ says Elsley.

While the steel dining pavilion is clearly a new structure, other moves by Derive Architecture are far from obvious.

A couple of the original windows in the signal box, for example, had to be extended to form doorways.

A few of the other pivotal steel windows were transformed into a canteen-style to allow food to be delivered to those dining outdoors.

However, the signal box, with its distinctive Flemish bond patterned bricks, forms part of the experience for diners, or for those simply wanting to learn more about railway history.
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In Wikipedia page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bankstown_railway_line for the Bankstown line there is a photo of Dulwich Hill station at the top right with the two goods lines, with the caption "View of the Bankstown railway line as it runs through Dulwich Hill in 2010. The former Rozelle branch of the Metropolitan Goods railway can be seen on the right; it has since been converted to light rail." My understanding is that the lines on the right are part of the still existing good line between Sydenham and Campsie and is not part of the Rozelle Branch which was converted to light rail.

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The pair of tracks on the immediate right are part of the ARTC controlled Metropolitan Goods line from Botany to Enfield, the two lines branching off in the top right were part of the Rozelle line that was lifted in the early 2010s to make way for the IWLR extension from Lilyfield.
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It has been corrected.
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I noticed on Saturday that during a service disruption on the Richmond line (signalling issues) for a couple of hours, Busways were providing emergency replacement buses between Mulgrave and Clarendon, with a single Waratah set operating a shuttle service between Clarendon and Richmond.

Presumably there must be a contractual reason for why the train shuttle between Clarendon and Richmond still operates during such disruptions, as it would inconvenience passengers far less if the replacement buses simply continued to service the last two stations, rather than requiring passengers to alight from the bus at a seldom used minor station, and wait for a shuttle train running every 30 minutes to continue the last 3.5km of the journey.
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BroadGauge wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:05 pm I noticed on Saturday that during a service disruption on the Richmond line (signalling issues) for a couple of hours, Busways were providing emergency replacement buses between Mulgrave and Clarendon, with a single Waratah set operating a shuttle service between Clarendon and Richmond.

Presumably there must be a contractual reason for why the train shuttle between Clarendon and Richmond still operates during such disruptions, as it would inconvenience passengers far less if the replacement buses simply continued to service the last two stations, rather than requiring passengers to alight from the bus at a seldom used minor station, and wait for a shuttle train running every 30 minutes to continue the last 3.5km of the journey.
You can practically walk into Richmond from Clarendon. It sounds like bureaucracy gone mad.
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BroadGauge wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:05 pmPresumably there must be a contractual reason for why the train shuttle between Clarendon and Richmond still operates during such disruptions, as it would inconvenience passengers far less if the replacement buses simply continued to service the last two stations, rather than requiring passengers to alight from the bus at a seldom used minor station, and wait for a shuttle train running every 30 minutes to continue the last 3.5km of the journey.
Simply a matter of using trains where possible, it is a rail network after all. I think you’ll also find more people are comfortable with trains than buses in general.

They would only run buses all the way if there was no train or crew available.

Using a bus all the way could potentially also make the exercise more expensive if they then need to procure extra buses to cover that section.
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They would probably be less comfortable with having to change twice within a short distance.

Possibly the set was "trapped" in the section by the problem, and NCC just decided to keep it running.
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BroadGauge wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:05 pmPresumably there must be a contractual reason for why the train shuttle between Clarendon and Richmond still operates during such disruptions, as it would inconvenience passengers far less if the replacement buses simply continued to service the last two stations, rather than requiring passengers to alight from the bus at a seldom used minor station, and wait for a shuttle train running every 30 minutes to continue the last 3.5km of the journey.
Contractual cost being the driver. The train crew are already being paid to do the job, the buses I understand on the emergency contracts are paid per kilometre.
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Clarendon Station is like 2 km from the outskirts of Richmond and 3.5 km from Richmond Station in the centre of town. It would take the bus about 5 minutes to go the rest of the distance.
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Say a 3 hour disruption, the bus would do 6 round trips at 7 km each.

Think of all the money TfNSW has saved.
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This must be "the last mile" theory at work. Commuters would really appreciate taking longer changing modes than actually completing the journey.
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