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Region 6 changes are apparently due in a few weeks.
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Stu wrote:Region 6 changes are apparently due in a few weeks.
Any more details you can satisfy our unending curiosity with, Stu? Image

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Stu wrote:Region 6 changes are apparently due in a few weeks.
Backed up with this response
"To ensure the services within the catchment are genuinely improved, we have been analysing our performance data closely and aim to deliver significant on time running improvements over the coming months.

"Given the scale of the region, it is naturally a time-consuming and complex task, so we appreciate the community's patience while we have evaluated the network, and we look forward to enhancing the commuter’s experience when we implement the service improvements."
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Sydney Bus changes 28th July 2019

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Does anyone know when the next round of Metro-related changes will be made to Hillsbus services? I heard a suggestion it would be immediately after the July school holidays.
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All still speculation. And just because you will see new Hillsbus timetables after the holidays, they will probably just be the new school term timetables.
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It was reported that "bus services along the M2 motorway would likely change eight weeks after metro services began"...not sure if there are any changes to the plan afterwards.
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I am not aware of any 8 weeks. The Metro announcement for 26th May stated:" Further adjustments are planned for the second half of 2019. This will allow us to review Opal data and travel patterns so that we can make adjustments where they are needed. These adjustments mean you may need to change the way you travel to get to your destination quickly and more comfortably."
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Re: New bus network arising from SMNW opening

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Seems like changes will start on July 28 with as far as I know (maybe more route changes with other routes, I'm not sure)

607X curtailed to end at Bella Vista
602X curtailed to end at Bella Vista
607N New 607N route from Tallawong to the City via M2
610X curtailed to Kellyville Station
610N New 610N route from Norwest Station to the City via Baulkham Hills and Castle Hill
612X curtailed to end at Castle Hill
613-616X will remain the same
627 and 628 Scrapped
618X Scrapped
619 Curtailed to end at Castle Hill

607X curtailed to Bella Vista i feel a positive change as the bus is standing only by the time it departs Celebration, with passengers from Celebration to the M2 having to stand or catch the next 607X.
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Residents across The Hills have received a public transport lifeline from NSW Government, following the announcement of increased bus services from residential areas to Sydney Metro stations.

A growing campaign by the North Kellyville Advocacy Group, which was calling for the implementation of on-demand bus services to Kellyville, Rouse Hill and Beaumont Hills after the completion of the new metro network, has been answered by Transport for NSW with thousands of new bus services to be rolled out on July 28.
https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/newsl ... 2f5c6e9933
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kypros1992 wrote:
Residents across The Hills have received a public transport lifeline from NSW Government, following the announcement of increased bus services from residential areas to Sydney Metro stations.

A growing campaign by the North Kellyville Advocacy Group, which was calling for the implementation of on-demand bus services to Kellyville, Rouse Hill and Beaumont Hills after the completion of the new metro network, has been answered by Transport for NSW with thousands of new bus services to be rolled out on July 28.
https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/newsl ... 2f5c6e9933
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kypros1992 wrote:
Residents across The Hills have received a public transport lifeline from NSW Government, following the announcement of increased bus services from residential areas to Sydney Metro stations.

A growing campaign by the North Kellyville Advocacy Group, which was calling for the implementation of on-demand bus services to Kellyville, Rouse Hill and Beaumont Hills after the completion of the new metro network, has been answered by Transport for NSW with thousands of new bus services to be rolled out on July 28.
https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/newsl ... 2f5c6e9933
Paywall :( :( Can a kind soul copy and paste the article here?
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kypros1992 wrote:
Residents across The Hills have received a public transport lifeline from NSW Government, following the announcement of increased bus services from residential areas to Sydney Metro stations.

A growing campaign by the North Kellyville Advocacy Group, which was calling for the implementation of on-demand bus services to Kellyville, Rouse Hill and Beaumont Hills after the completion of the new metro network, has been answered by Transport for NSW with thousands of new bus services to be rolled out on July 28.
https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/newsl ... 2f5c6e9933
https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/newsl ... NJHbE6eBuo
ALL THE CHANGES
600 — Hornsby to Parramatta via Castle Hill

Selected services currently terminating at Castle Hill will be extended to Pennant Hills.

601 — Rouse Hill to Parramatta via Kellyville

218 additional weekly services. The route will be adjusted to include Hills Showground Metro Station, Green Road, Hezlett Road and Withers Road. Alternative service in the Kellyville area will be available on route 664.

602X — Bella Vista to North Sydney via T-Way and M2

The route will be adjusted to operate between Bella Vista Metro station and North Sydney only. Customers travelling to North Sydney from locations north of Bella Vista can use route 665 to connect with route 602X at Bella Vista, or use Sydney Metro/Sydney Trains services.

603 — Rouse Hill to Parramatta via Castle Hill

120 additional weekly services. The route will be adjusted to include Samantha Riley Drive, Kellyville Station and Perfection Ave. Alternative service in Hezlett Rd and Withers Rd available on route 601.

604 — Dural to Parramatta via Castle Hill

6 additional weekly services. This route will be extended to Round Corner Dural and will replace route 644 services between Castle Hill and Dural.

605 — North Kellyville to Rouse Hill

No change.

606 — Winston Hills to Parramatta

The route will be adjusted to operate via Buckleys Road in Winston Hills instead of Caroline Chisholm Drive. Alternative service in Caroline Chisholm Drive is available on route 706.

607N — Tallawong to CBD via T-Way and M2

18 new weekly services. This new route will operate overnight between 12am and 5am on Saturdays and Sundays, replacing existing overnight services previously operated on route 607X. This route will also be extended from Rouse Hill to the Tallawong Metro station.

607X — Bella Vista to CBD via T-Way and M2

The route will be adjusted to operate between Bella Vista Station and the Sydney CBD only. Customers travelling to the Sydney CBD from locations north of Bella Vista can use route 665 (former route T65) to connect with route 607X at Bella Vista, or use Sydney Metro/Sydney Trains services.

608 — Windsor to Rouse Hill

No change.

609 — Parramatta to North Parramatta

No change.

610 — Rouse Hill to CBD via Castle Hill

This route will be withdrawn. Services from Rouse Hill to Castle Hill will be available on route 633, which will be extended from Castle Hill to Rouse Hill. Services to Lane Cove will be available by using route 619 or Sydney Metro services to Macquarie University station, then routes 288, 291 or 292. Services from Castle Hill and Baulkham Hills to the Sydney CBD via the M2 will be available on route 610X

610N — Norwest to CBD via Castle Hill and M2

25 new weekly services. This new route will operate overnight between 12am and 5am on Saturdays and Sundays replacing overnight services previously operated on route 610X. This route will also be extended from Castle Hill to Hills Showground and Norwest Metro stations.

610X — Kellyville and Castle Hill to CBD via Baulkham Hills and M2

This service will be adjusted to operate full time from Castle Hill to the Sydney CBD, with weekday peak hour services extended to and from James Mileham Drive and Samantha Riley Drive in Kellyville. Alternative services between Rouse Hill and Castle Hill will be available on route 633 which will be extended to Rouse Hill.

611 — Blacktown to Macquarie Park via M2

30 additional weekly services.

612X — Castle Hill to Milsons Point via Baulkham Hills and M2

This service will be adjusted to operate between Castle Hill and Milsons Point. Alternative services between Samantha Riley Drive and Castle Hill available on routes 626 or 633.

613X — Bella Vista to Sydney CBD via M2

No change.

614X — Crestwood to CBD via Winston Hills and M2

10 additional weekly services. The route will be adjusted to terminate at Chapel Lane and Mackillop Drive.

615X — North Kellyville to Sydney CBD via Baulkham Hills and M2

No change.

616X — Kellyville Ridge to Sydney CBD via Glenwood and M2

No change.

617 — Rouse Hill to Kellyville Station

210 additional weekly services. New morning and afternoon peak services will be introduced, replacing existing route 617X services.

617X — Rouse Hill to City

This route will be withdrawn and replaced with new morning and afternoon peak services on route 617 to and from Kellyville Station. Customers travelling to the CBD can use route 617 and transfer to Sydney Metro/Sydney Trains services.

618X — City to Norwest Business Park

This route will be withdrawn. Local bus services for Windsor Road will be available on route 601, Norwest Boulevarde on routes 664 and 730, and Lexington Drive on route 745. Customers travelling from the Sydney CBD to Norwest can use Sydney Trains/Sydney Metro services to Norwest and Bella Vista Metro stations.

619 — Castle Hill to Macquarie Park via Baulkham Hills and M2

This route will be adjusted to operate between Castle Hill and Macquarie Park only. Services between Rouse Hill and Castle Hill will be replaced by route 651.

620N — CBD to Cherrybrook

This service will be changed to operate during early Saturday and Sunday mornings only between the Sydney CBD and Cherrybrook, operating via Cherrybrook Metro station. Weekday peak hour services will be available on route 620X.

620X — Dural to CBD via Cherrybrook

This route will be changed to operate during morning and afternoon peak periods only. Alternative services during off peak times will be replaced by route 626 to Cherrybrook Station and route 604 to Castle Hill Station. Late Friday and Saturday night services from the City to Cherrybrook will be provided by route 620N.

621 — Castle Hill to CBD via Cherrybrook and Macquarie Park

This route will be withdrawn. Alternative services will be available on route 626 to Castle Hill and Cherrybrook Metro stations for access to Macquarie University or Macquarie Park Metro stations.

622 — Dural Bus Depot to Milsons Point

No change.

625 — Pennant Hills to Parramatta via Carlingford

16 additional services. Sunday service frequency will be increased to hourly.

626 — Kellyville Station to Pennant Hills Station via Castle Hill

No change.

627 — Castle Hill to Chatswood via M2

This route will be withdrawn. For customers travelling to Lane Cove, alternative services are available by using Sydney Metro to Chatswood then routes 530 and 536 to Lane Cove Interchange. For customers travelling to Epping Road, alternative services are available using either route 619 or Sydney Metro to Macquarie University station then routes 288, 291 or 292.

628 — Chatswood to Norwest

This route will be withdrawn. For customers travelling from Lane Cove to Norwest, lternative services available by using routes 530 or 536 to Chatswood then Sydney Metro to Norwest, or routes 288, 291 or 292 to Macquarie University Metro station then Sydney Metro to Norwest. Local bus services for Windsor Road will be available on route 601, Norwest Boulevarde on routes 664 and 730, and Lexington Drive on route 745.

630 — Blacktown to Epping

No change.

632 — Pennant Hills to Rouse Hill via Castle Hill and Norwest

23 additional weekly services. This route will be adjusted to operate between Pennant Hills and Rouse Hill Metro station via Norwest and Kellyville. Castlewood Estate will no longer be served by this route, with route 660 providing alternative services.

633 — Pennant Hills to Rouse Hill via Castle Hill and Kellyville

308 additional weekly services. This route will be adjusted to operate between Pennant Hills and Rouse Hill Metro station via Kellyville and Beaumont Hills, replacing route 610 and 610X services between Castle Hill and Rouse Hill.

635 — Castle Hill to Beecroft via Cherrybrook Metro station

No change.

637 — Glenorie to Castle Hill via Round Corner

The route will be adjusted to travel along Old Northern Road instead of Old Castle Hill Road and First Farm Drive. Alternative services in these areas will be available on route 604.

638 — Berrilee to Pennant Hills via Dural

This route will be adjusted to travel via Old Northern Road instead of via Old Castle Hill Road and First Farm Drive. Alternative services in these areas will be available on route 604.

639 — Kenthurst to Castle Hill

This route will be adjusted to travel via Old Northern Road instead of via Old Castle Hill Road and First Farm Drive. Alternative services in these areas will be available on route 604.

640 — Kenthurst local service No change.

641 — Rouse Hill to Round Corner Dural No change.

642 — Round Corner Dural to CBD

This route will be withdrawn. Alternative services will be available on route 642X. For customers travelling to or from Epping Road or Lane Cove, customers can transfer to route 622 at Pennant Hills Road.

642X — Round Corner Dural to CBD via M2

This route will be adjusted to run during weekday morning and afternoon peak hours only. During off peak times customers use either routes 626 or 632 to Cherrybrook Metro station, then Sydney Metro/Sydney Trains services to the CBD.

643 — Samantha Riley Drive to Kellyville Station

This route will be withdrawn. Alternative services will be available on route 603 which

will be adjusted to operate via Kellyville Metro station.

644 — Dural to Castle Hill via Ravensbourne Cct

This route will be withdrawn. Alternative services will be available on route 604 which

will be adjusted to operate to and from Round Corner Dural.

650 — West Pennant Hills to CBD

This route will be withdrawn. Alternative services will be available on route 652X. Customers on Highs Road can use route 651 to Castle Hill Metro station then and use Sydney Metro/Sydney Trains service to travel into the CBD.

650X — West Pennant Hills to CBD

This route will be withdrawn. Alternative services will be available on route 652X between West Pennant Hills and the City. Customers on Highs Road can use route 651 to Castle Hill Metro station then and use Sydney Metro/Sydney Trains service to travel into the CBD.

651 — Rouse Hill to Epping via Kellyville and Castle Hill

108 additional weekly services. The route will be adjusted to operate between Rouse Hill and Epping Stations via Kellyville, Castle Hill and West Pennant Hills. The service will connect with Sydney Metro at Rouse Hill, Kellyville, Castle Hill and Epping stations, with customers able to use Sydney Metro/Sydney Trains services to travel to Macquarie Park or the Sydney CBD.

652X — West Pennant Hills to CBD

35 additional weekly services. This route will be adjusted to operate between Blacks Road Terminus and the Sydney CBD. Customers on Highs Road can use route 651 to Castle Hill Metro station then and use Sydney Metro/Sydney Trains service to travel into the CBD. Services on Old Northern Road, Gilbert Road and Knightsbridge will be replaced by route 603 to Castle Hill Metro station. Customers in Knightsbridge can also use the MetroConnect On Demand service.

653 — West Pennant Hills to Milsons Point

This route will be withdrawn. Alternative services will be available by using route 651 to Pennant Hills Road, then route 622 to North Sydney.

700 — Blacktown to Parramatta via Prospect

No change.

702 — Blacktown to Seven Hills

No change.

705 — Blacktown to Parramatta via Lalor Park

No change.

706 — Blacktown to Parramatta via Winston Hills

No change.

708 — Constitution Hill to Parramatta via Pendle Hill

No change.

711 — Blacktown to Parramatta via Westmead hospitals

Trips between Parramatta and Westmead Childrens Hospital renumbered to new route

712.

712 — Parramatta to Westmead Childrens Hospital

Existing trips on route 711 between Parramatta and Westmead Childrens Hospital

renumbered to 712.

714 — West Baulkham Hills to Seven Hills

No change.

715 — Rouse Hill to Seven Hills via Kellyville and Norwest

145 additional weekly services. This route will be adjusted to operate between Rouse Hill and Seven Hills Station via Kellyville and Norwest. Alternative services between Norwest and Castle Hill will be available on route 730.

T60 (new 660) — Castle Hill to Parramatta via Winston Hills

15 additional weekly services. The route will be extended to include the Castlewood Estate to replace route 632. Route will be renumbered to 660.

T61 (new 661) — Blacktown to Parramatta via Kings Langley

Route will be renumbered to 661.

T62 (new 662) — Castle Hill to Parramatta via Bella Vista

Route will be renumbered to 662.

T63 (new 663) — Rouse Hill to Parramatta via Kellyville Ridge

Route will be renumbered to 663.

T64 (new 664) — Rouse Hill to Parramatta via Kellyville

This route will be adjusted to run from Rouse Hill Town Centre to Parramatta via Windsor Road, Greenwood Road and Sanctuary Drive, replacing route 601. Route will be renumbered to 664.

T65 (new 665) — Rouse Hill Town Centre to Parramatta

301 additional weekly services. This route will replace T66 services between Rouse Hill and Parramatta to replace. Route will be renumbered to 665.

T66 — Rouse Hill to Parramatta

This route will be withdrawn. Alternative services in the Mile End Road area will be available on route 633, or from Rouse Hill Metro station to Parramatta on route 665.
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607N and 610N hey, sounds like no Nightride for Metro NW.
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Nightride as such is a thing of the past. New overnight routes are being integrated into the bus region network. see 333N etc.
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Fleet Lists wrote:Nightride as such is a thing of the past. New overnight routes are being integrated into the bus region network. see 333N etc.
Maybe route 300 should be renumbered 300N.

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Very curious to see the new routes and frequencies of 632, 633 and 651 which they're extending to Rouse Hill. Those services, as well as the 626 and boosted 601 will be crucial in ferrying commuters from the greater NW onto the metro. Hopefully we will see these services become more and more frequent over the years, and bus then changing to metro will be seen as a normal and convenient trip, as opposed to the single seat journey mentality that's been ingrained into the Sydney commuter for so many decades.
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rogf24 wrote:607N and 610N hey, sounds like no Nightride for Metro NW.
Yes, it looks like there will be no Nightride for the Metro.

These two routes look much more like the rest of the newly introduced overnight services; 333N, 400N, 420N, it was only time before they got the treatment too. Now for the 373N, 394N, etc
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swtt wrote:Maybe route 300 should be renumbered 300N.

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J_Busworth wrote:Now for the 373N, 394N, etc
Would imagine that happening with the CSELR bus network changes.
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643 is such a short-lived route.
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stupid_girl wrote:643 is such a short-lived route.
Only 61 days from first service on May 27 to last service on July 26. Didn’t even quite make two months. I guess Route 643 just wasn’t working for them, so they cut their losses and gave up. Is there any scheduled route services in Sydney that have lasted for less time?
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J_Busworth wrote:Is there any scheduled route services in Sydney that have lasted for less time?
Maybe the staff / spectator shuttles during the Olympics but they don't really count as a scheduled service.
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Fleet Lists wrote:
swtt wrote:Maybe route 300 should be renumbered 300N.

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Yes I would think so
550N seems to have missed the treatment. Image

I think there is one crucial difference though: all of the N suffixed routes are actually a little different to their regular route.

333N/400N is all stops instead of limited stops

420N doesn't run via Domestic

The listed 610N, 620N and 607N all seem to have a little route extension or deviation somewhere?


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swtt wrote:
I think there is one crucial difference though: all of the N suffixed routes are actually a little different to their regular route.

333N/400N is all stops instead of limited stops

420N doesn't run via Domestic

The listed 610N, 620N and 607N all seem to have a little route extension or deviation somewhere?
Originally 620N was suffixed as such as it ran direct via New Line Road (hence the N suffix) between Purchase Road and Boundary Road as opposed to the 620/620X which deviated through Cherrybrook via Purchase Road, Shepherds Drive and Francis Greenway Drive.
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Official announcement for the July 28 changes now published on transportnsw.info
https://transportnsw.info/service-adjustments-2019
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