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Re: Light rail gets the green light: stage 1 UNSW to CBD

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Michael Bamborough wrote: Hey wait a minute! They told us there would be no extra fee when changing between the buses and the south east light rail. That better be a typo or a miscommunication going on here or there's gonna be trouble!
That was years ago (and the person who said it is no longer Transport Minister). In any event, having it as separate modes will often save people money versus a direct bus
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Michael Bamborough wrote:
tonyp wrote:TfNSW is saying on Facebook (SLR) today that the bus changes will not take place until 4-6 weeks after opening of L3 branch in March, after monitoring the impact of the tram on travel patterns followed by community update on a new bus plan. There will be a $2 discount on adult Opal and contactless fares for interchanging between bus and tram.
Hey wait a minute! They told us there would be no extra fee when changing between the buses and the south east light rail. That better be a typo or a miscommunication going on here or there's gonna be trouble!
I suspect that has overridden that statement made some years before the $2 discount was introduced.

Unfortunately I have not seen where TfNSW has made that statement - a reference would be appreciated.
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Re: Light rail gets the green light: stage 1 UNSW to CBD

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Fleet Lists wrote: Unfortunately I have not seen where TfNSW has made that statement - a reference would be appreciated.
As above - on the SLR Facebook page. These are probably the two most relevant responses.

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Re: Light rail gets the green light: stage 1 UNSW to CBD

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A very nice, upbeat piece with a great sense of historical continuity right back to 1861.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiOPb2av4w0

And another:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hxt5ZGr_z5w
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Re: Light rail gets the green light: stage 1 UNSW to CBD

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See in the Telegraph TNSW is lowering the speed further to ACCOMMODATE the idiots on their mobile telephones.
This is what should be done to their offices.
https://youtu.be/ii5jR9uC1s0?t=00m48s
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Re: Light rail gets the green light: stage 1 UNSW to CBD

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Swift wrote:See in the Telegraph TNSW is lowering the speed further to ACCOMMODATE the idiots on their mobile telephones.
Is this a new announcement, or the one from a few days ago that said that the trams would run at a low speed for the first couple of months for people to become accustomed to it and after that the speed would be increased?
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Re: Light rail gets the green light: stage 1 UNSW to CBD

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I thought 20kph was the permanent speed through the pedestrian zone.
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Re: Light rail gets the green light: stage 1 UNSW to CBD

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moa999 wrote:I thought 20kph was the permanent speed through the pedestrian zone.
If they're talking about a 50 minute journey in the trial stage, the trams certainly won't be running up to their speed limits anywhere.
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Yellow cross-hatching being added at city intersections
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_ ... 9841638929
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Re: Light rail gets the green light: stage 1 UNSW to CBD

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tonyp wrote:
Swift wrote:See in the Telegraph TNSW is lowering the speed further to ACCOMMODATE the idiots on their mobile telephones.
Is this a new announcement, or the one from a few days ago that said that the trams would run at a low speed for the first couple of months for people to become accustomed to it and after that the speed would be increased?
This is new in today's issue.
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Re: Light rail gets the green light: stage 1 UNSW to CBD

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Cars kept queing today to turn left onto Margaret St (the left turn lane that's too small). A tram was held up for almost 5 mins outside Wynyard and kept honking. I'm not sure how they'll fix up that intersection.
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Re: Light rail gets the green light: stage 1 UNSW to CBD

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A cop stationed at the intersection to ticket drivers should have the issue sorted out in no time.
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mubd wrote:A cop stationed at the intersection to ticket drivers should have the issue sorted out in no time.
Queuing across intersections is rampant in the CBD. It's not just the George street tram line they block. Changing lanes in front of a bus or truck and occupying their braking space is pretty popular too.

Then there are the cycle couriers and now food delivery riders who seem to believe road rules don't apply to them. (And some times I think they don't think the laws of physics apply either!)
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Re: Light rail gets the green light: stage 1 UNSW to CBD

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At the Light Rail Central stop today, Monday, December 9, 1800 hours, spoke to a Light Rail Driver who claimed that from today Management have reduced the Running times down to the following between:-
Circular Quay and Central: 19 minutes.
Circular Quay and Randwick: 45 minutes.
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Re: Light rail gets the green light: stage 1 UNSW to CBD

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That's some diabolical run times

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Re: Light rail gets the green light: stage 1 UNSW to CBD

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rogf24 wrote:That's some diabolical run times
It was going to be 50 minutes. They must have trimmed a little off in response to feedback. Still, it should ultimately be in the 25-30 minute range to be considered an operational success.
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Re: Light rail gets the green light: stage 1 UNSW to CBD

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That's ludicrous beyond belief. The trip will feel as long as it took to be built!!
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Re: Light rail gets the green light: stage 1 UNSW to CBD

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tonyp wrote:
rogf24 wrote:That's some diabolical run times
It was going to be 50 minutes. They must have trimmed a little off in response to feedback. Still, it should ultimately be in the 25-30 minute range to be considered an operational success.
Well they said that it'll take 6 months to bed down. What are the changes that it'll be trimmed down to 25-30 mins once everything is bedded down?

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Re: Light rail gets the green light: stage 1 UNSW to CBD

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STMPainter2018 wrote:STOP THE PRESS! Confirmation from Sydney Light Rail's Facebook page today about the numbering for the new Citadis trams. The tram numbers will be between 2201-2260. You called it Matthew lol.
Some trams have had two digit numbers applied to the cab windows much like they are on the Urbos 3s, although at the top vs the bottom. Still carrying the smaller three digit numbers on the side rooflines.
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Linto63 wrote:Some trams have had two digit numbers applied to the cab windows much like they are on the Urbos 3s, although at the top vs the bottom. Still carrying the smaller three digit numbers on the side rooflines.
Most of them now. Some on the top right corner, some on the bottom right. Some are quite crooked. Not a good look.

I wonder if they have realised they now have two different trams bearing the numbers 14 to 24 running through Haymarket?

Alstom's manufacture number is still up on the top above the cab.
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Re: Light rail gets the green light: stage 1 UNSW to CBD

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moa999 wrote:I thought 20kph was the permanent speed through the pedestrian zone.
They've added temporary speed restrictions in this zone, at least in the Town Hall and QVB sections. The speed limits have been cut down to 10kmh after Town Hall, and 20kmh after Park St intersection. I would reckon this will last until the "bed in period" is lifted. Which I hope it is because otherwise they're wasting their operating potential, and Tony will be complaining about it. And we cannot have that!
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Re: Light rail gets the green light: stage 1 UNSW to CBD

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matthewg wrote: Most of them now. Some on the top right corner, some on the bottom right. Some are quite crooked. Not a good look.

I wonder if they have realised they now have two different trams bearing the numbers 14 to 24 running through Haymarket?
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Re: Light rail gets the green light: stage 1 UNSW to CBD

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tonyp wrote: It was going to be 50 minutes. They must have trimmed a little off in response to feedback. Still, it should ultimately be in the 25-30 minute range to be considered an operational success.
And I'm optimistic it will be by this time next year. Everything I seen so far in with testing has left me with high hopes it will be successful. Any delays have been due to outside factors but this is the same thing that went on back in 1899. I'm sure it'll be fine.
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Anyway, if y'all can get past the paywall, the Daily Telegraph has a competition for those who wish to be VIPs on the first tram trip from the Quay: https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/enter ... e1f9f26ec8
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In the hard copy at the weekend they were offering rides "on the first tram to Kingsford" next Saturday.
The Sydney Classic and Antique Truck (and Bus) Show
On again June 2021
@ The Museum of Fire.
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