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boronia wrote:I was wondering if they would ever reach 70 km/hr in actual service?
On the IWLR they could (very briefly in Glebe tunnel), but otherwise the maximum speed is determined by the general road speed limits along their routes, as with buses. Acceleration, deceleration, dwell times and traffic lights are going to be more significant in determining average speeds.
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rogf24 wrote:Did they also test APS?
Alstom's Barcelona factory where they are being assembled doesn't appear to have any APS track. Of course, they may have added it to a test section since the google-earth photos were taken.

These are Alstom's first production X05 and the first use in the production of several different new(ish) technologies - if they don't have problems, they are covering up. A machine that complex with a new style of motor, the new control bus, new body style is bound to have some 'integration' issues.
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Speaking of APS, the Tomorrow's Sydney twitter has some pics of completed track in northern George Street, complete with APS installed.

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Also video of the tram being tested:
https://twitter.com/MySydney/status/879997845058748416
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https://www.transport.nsw.gov.au/newsro ... cular-quay

New stage of light rail construction begins in Circular Quay

3 Jul 2017

Major work at the beginning of the CBD and South East Light Rail route will ramp up this week with motorists advised to plan for upcoming traffic changes around Circular Quay, including traffic returning to part of George Street.

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From 7 July, Alfred Street between Loftus and George Streets, and Loftus Street between Reiby Place and Alfred Street will be closed due to light rail construction. To ensure access to the Rocks precinct is maintained, one northbound lane and one southbound lane will be opened on George Street between Grosvenor and Alfred Streets.

Coordinator General Marg Prendergast said diverting traffic over George Street in Circular Quay will give the public a glimpse of how construction has progressed so far.

“Light rail construction is really coming along with more than 7 kilometres of track installed so far, more than 1 kilometre of which is in the CBD,” Ms Prendergast said.

“Once some of the hoardings come down, people will be able to see that 100 per cent of track has been installed, including paving laid between the rails down this stretch of George Street.”

Finishing works, including road work and installation of street furniture and trees, will continue alongside traffic on George Street between Grosvenor and Alfred Streets. This will involve ongoing lane changes as work progresses on either side of the road.

As the location of the Circular Quay terminus, most of Alfred Street will eventually be transformed into a leafy, traffic-free pedestrian boulevard.

The Circular Quay terminus will improve access to the popular precinct, providing customers the opportunity to interchange between ferry, train, bus and light rail.

The CBD and South East Light Rail will provide reliable high frequency ‘turn up and go’ transport services from Circular Quay to Randwick and Kingsford by early 2019.

To find out more visit sydneylightrail.com.au or to plan your journey, visit transportnsw.info.
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Large plastic wrapped object spotted in Randwick Dpot this morning
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I`d say the first of the Citadis X05 has been snuck in by look of it
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boronia wrote:Large plastic wrapped object spotted in Randwick Dpot this morning
Time for a burglary?
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It arrived in the early hours of Tuesday morning.

Possibly an "official unveiling" on Friday.

Next one scheduled for September delivery.
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Bedford-29 wrote:I`d say the first of the Citadis X05 has been snuck in by look of it
It's not something boring like some workshop kit or a pre-built substation module ?. Although it does look 'tram shaped'.
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I'd be surprised if they delivered a tram into what is still a building site and risk it getting damaged.
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A friend was on hand to witness the unloading on Tuesday morning, and he assures me it was a tram.
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boronia wrote:A friend was on hand to witness the unloading on Tuesday morning, and he assures me it was a tram.
Maybe they're seeing if it fits! If I had a Bentley I wouldn't be parking it in my garage while the latter was being built and risk getting a dropped piece of sheetmetal though the roof.
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There is another "community information forum" being held at the Kensington Masonic Hall next Tuesday 17:00 to 19:00.
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Compare this picture with boronia picture.Picture from metro report international website
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This is a view from the other end
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and from the side, but hard to get good photo over the fence, as it started raining while I was there.
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tonyp wrote:450 people equivalent to 9 standard (presumably meaning 12 metre) buses?
Yeah, they couldn't even be bothered to put it into a calculator. It is 7.7 buses @ 58 people/bus. Much less if you look at seats.

Interestingly, last time I was around Randwick way the locals seemed pretty keen on the idea. Don't think that would extend to Coogee or Marourba Jct though.
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I visited Barcelona in 1999. Who'd have thought it would be supplying Sydney with trams one day!!
It was a Mercedes 0405 mecca at the time (no need to visit Germany :shock:) so I felt somewhat at home.
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New Light Rail stop names progress to the next stage

18 Jul 2017

Geographical Names Board to review proposed light rail stop names before public feedback sought.

Transport for NSW confirmed the next step in naming the 19 future stops along the new Sydney CBD and South East Light Rail route, with the Geographical Names Board set to review the proposed names at its meeting today.

Once the Board is comfortable with the names as presented, they will advertise and seek public feedback via the Geographical Names Board (GNB) website.

A Transport for NSW spokesperson said this was an exciting milestone for the CBD and South East Light Rail project, with a range of stakeholder consultation supporting the suite of stop names.

“We have deliberated long and hard over the names for the light rail stops and it is important we get this right,” the spokesperson said.

“We’ve had input from councils, stakeholders and initial feedback from the community in this process as it has really given a sense of ownership and ensured each stop name reflects the individual identity of the area.

“Many factors were considered when selecting the names for these stops including their relationship to major landmarks and the overall transport system.”

A number of alternatives have been proposed to the originally published names including the use of Bridge Street, Royal Randwick, Centennial Park, Wansey Stables, and Randwick Junction.

The complete list of recommended Light Rail Stop names includes:
  • Circular Quay
  • Bridge Street
  • Wynyard
  • QVB
  • Town Hall
  • Chinatown
  • Haymarket
  • Central
  • Surry Hills
  • Moore Park
  • ES Marks
  • Kensington
  • UNSW Anzac Parade
  • Kingsford
  • Nine Ways
  • Royal Randwick
  • Wansey Stables
  • UNSW High Street
  • Randwick Junction
For more information including the consultation process go to http://www.gnb.nsw.gov.au

https://www.transport.nsw.gov.au/newsro ... next-stage
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So the changes from the March announcement are.
Metropolitan - Bridge St
Central Chalmers - Central
Centennial Park - Royal Randwick
Wansey Cottage - Wansey Stables
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Will Randwick Junction be a junction to nowhere like Shellharbour Junction? Somebody in TfNSW seems to be playing Railroad Tycoon.

I believe Randwick Junction is actually at the northern end of Belmore Rd at the intersection of Alison - where the cross-country line to Bondi Junction branched off the Coogee line.
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Commencing 31st July (next Monday), Chalmers St will close, as posted before, Elizabeth St will be two-way between Randle St and Foveaux St, with school 610 services leaving from Chalmers St near the Devonshire St exit of Central
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tonyp wrote:Will Randwick Junction be a junction to nowhere like Shellharbour Junction? Somebody in TfNSW seems to be playing Railroad Tycoon.

I believe Randwick Junction is actually at the northern end of Belmore Rd at the intersection of Alison - where the cross-country line to Bondi Junction branched off the Coogee line.
It would seem so. And correct.

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Perhaps they could build a line from "Randwick Junction" to "Shellharbour Junction" to make both stations self-fulfilling?
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Or just to Bondi Junction, to keep all the armchair transport planners happy.
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boronia wrote:Or just to Bondi Junction, to keep all the armchair transport planners happy.
At least there was a genuine junction at Bondi Junction.

It looks like Randwick Council likes to name the whole shopping strip Randwick Junction:

http://www.randwick.nsw.gov.au/about-co ... own-centre

However, the Geographical Names Board database doesn't recognise this even as a locality name, the suburb name being simply Randwick. However it does show a proposed listing for a "Randwick Junction" railway station! As an ex local I remember this southern end of the village being High Cross, but that isn't recognised now either, except in the park.
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