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Reminds me of a line from a previous work place:
Q. What's the difference between an urgent problem and an un-urgent one?
A. About an hour.
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Trams tonight completely overcrowded, like actually packed full, doors couldn’t close on the one I was on, due to football in Moore Park tonight. Happy to see this light rail really getting patronage it deserves.
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The stair landings on the Moore Park footbridge ar so badly designed they retain pools of rainwater about 10mm deep. Does nobody follow up these design faults? All it needs is a man (woman?) with a 5mm dia masonry drill.
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I find many concreters nowadays are highly skilled at pitching slopes in the wrong direction. What happened to the old spirit level?
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They're adept at laying concrete that cracks within 6 months, too!

I've been to former defence towns where houses made of concrete, concrete and more concrete abound. 50yrs had transpired since those houses were built, and most showed no signs of any degradation... Clearly, things ain't what they used to be. That wretched, "She'll be roight maaaaaaaayte" attitude will be the demise of our country.
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tonyp wrote: Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:45 am I find many concreters nowadays are highly skilled at pitching slopes in the wrong direction. What happened to the old spirit level?
It's the stair nosing, added afterward, which causes water retention. The stairs at Moore Park weren't even poured in-situ, so there's no excuse for poor concreting.
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Merc1107 wrote: Fri Apr 09, 2021 11:19 am They're adept at laying concrete that cracks within 6 months, too!
And welding rail in such a fashion that the welds 'dish' in 12 months instead of 12 years.

The problem is everything is given to the 'lowest bid' contractor who then has to rush through the job in order to get to the next job and make enough money to survive.
Very few trades now spend the time to do a neat and though job - if they spend the time they don't make enough money, or if they factored that into their quote they don't get the job in the first place. I'm sure most of the guys on the ground would love to spend the time to do a 'proper job', but they don't get the opportunity to.

Have to wonder where all the billions went - it certainly wasn't to ensure the sub contractors had the opportunity to do a top-quality job.
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So they're basically going for the base factor of cost, like everybody does these days. Not too advanced after all are we?
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Looks like the front row of seats closest to the driver are again available for passengers on the Citadis trams and the restrictive tape around the cab has also been removed (more standing room!). Same goes for L1’s Urbos trams
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Interesting comment in today's SMH about the history of Sydney's transport evolution. The first tramway was introduced in 1861 along Pitt St with a carriage drawn by 4 horses from Circular Quay to Redfern Station (then Devonshire St) with a journey time of 10 minutes. How times have changed.
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We once were a can do city. Now we're a we can't because city.
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Transtopic wrote: Mon Apr 19, 2021 12:19 am Interesting comment in today's SMH about the history of Sydney's transport evolution. The first tramway was introduced in 1861 along Pitt St with a carriage drawn by 4 horses from Circular Quay to Redfern Station (then Devonshire St) with a journey time of 10 minutes. How times have changed.
Not too much traffic congestion in 1861. Nevertheless the 2nd generation tram system covered Circular Quay - Central in 15 minutes with twice as many stops as CSELR (stopping basically at the corner of every block). L2/L3 seem to have got this section down to 13-14 minutes now so it's moving forward. L1 is at least 5 minutes too slow along its length too.
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Transtopic wrote: Mon Apr 19, 2021 12:19 am Interesting comment in today's SMH about the history of Sydney's transport evolution. The first tramway was introduced in 1861 along Pitt St with a carriage drawn by 4 horses from Circular Quay to Redfern Station (then Devonshire St) with a journey time of 10 minutes. How times have changed.
They must have been very fast horses!
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Late night maintenance works for the L3 tomorrow night and Thursday night. L2 services will run as usual.

L3 replacement buses will not stop at Surry Hills, with the closest stop at Chalmers Street.
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marcnut1996 wrote: Tue Apr 20, 2021 5:50 pm Late night maintenance works for the L3 tomorrow night and Thursday night. L2 services will run as usual.

L3 replacement buses will not stop at Surry Hills, with the closest stop at Chalmers Street.
https://transportnsw.info/news/2021/bus ... -kingsford
Ticket readers are located in all replacement buses. Customers will need to tap on when boarding a replacement bus and tap-off when arriving at your stop with a valid ticket or contactless payment.

A standard light rail fare applies on-board light rail replacement buses.
I like how they remind people of this now after the many years of essentially “free” trips on rail buses with all Opal readers “closed” or just not on the bus at all
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The middle state on the eastern side had to live up to it's middle of the road status. Mediocrity is and shall continue to be it's religion.
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Jurassic_Joke wrote: Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:44 pm
Ticket readers are located in all replacement buses. Customers will need to tap on when boarding a replacement bus and tap-off when arriving at your stop with a valid ticket or contactless payment.

A standard light rail fare applies on-board light rail replacement buses.
I like how they remind people of this now after the many years of essentially “free” trips on rail buses with all Opal readers “closed” or just not on the bus at all
Passengers on these services would mostly have a long experience of tapping on/off on buses, so should not be an issue, unlike train travellers.
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