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boronia wrote:The trams have a fully sealed compartment for the driver, but this seems to be deemed insufficient enough to warrant the front doors not being opened.
The end doors are driver-only in trams that don't have a separate door for the driver's cab. The drivers regularly have to leave the cab to change ends.

Transdev Melbourne has adopted rear door-boarding (twitter feed):

http://www.transdevmelbourne.com.au/
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How would all the private bus companies that operated before they became contractors have coped in this?
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Swift wrote:How would all the private bus companies that operated before they became contractors have coped in this?
Either reduced their services to suit demand, or been bankrolled by the government as the provider of an essential service much like the airlines.
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Or possibly a combination of both.
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I was at Maroubra Junction this afternoon; when a bus pulled up, the dozen or so people, who had been somewhat "social distancing" around the stop while waiting, all tried to barge in the front door together.
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Surprising that governments haven't yet got contracted bus operators to measure 1.5 metres between seats witch would probably mean one person every 3rd or 4th seat witch would restrict the capacity of a 50 seat bus to 10 or 15 seats
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boronia wrote:I was at Maroubra Junction this afternoon; when a bus pulled up, the dozen or so people, who had been somewhat "social distancing" around the stop while waiting, all tried to barge in the front door together.
Sneezing and coughing over the driver as they passed no doubt.
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Campbelltown busboy wrote:Surprising that governments haven't yet got contracted bus operators to measure 1.5 metres between seats witch would probably mean one person every 3rd or 4th seat witch would restrict the capacity of a 50 seat bus to 10 or 15 seats
We're meeting those requirements up my way. One passenger for every 44 seats. :)
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tonyp wrote:
boronia wrote:I was at Maroubra Junction this afternoon; when a bus pulled up, the dozen or so people, who had been somewhat "social distancing" around the stop while waiting, all tried to barge in the front door together.
Sneezing and coughing over the driver as they passed no doubt.
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tonyp wrote:Sneezing and coughing over the driver as they passed no doubt.
Given that 99.99% of the population actually don't have any Covid-19 symptoms, unlikely. Melodramatic twaddle :roll:
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Campbelltown busboy wrote:Surprising that governments haven't yet got contracted bus operators to measure 1.5 metres between seats witch would probably mean one person every 3rd or 4th seat witch would restrict the capacity of a 50 seat bus to 10 or 15 seats
If you had one person per double seat, and alternated between aisle and window seats, you might get close to 1.5 spacing?
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Here's why driving a bus is so risky amidst a global pandemic: https://youtu.be/wUjXpmhOsiU
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Merc1107 wrote: I didn't realise Sydney-Melbourne was actually one of the busiest routes of travel on the planet
How many daily direct trains between London and Frankfurt, the two financial capitals of Europe, and a similar distance as Sydney to Melbourne
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Merc1107 wrote: I didn't realise Sydney-Melbourne was actually one of the busiest routes of travel on the planet
How many daily direct trains between London and Frankfurt, the two financial capitals of Europe, and a similar distance as Sydney to Melbourne
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jixuqianjin wrote:Here's why driving a bus is so risky amidst a global pandemic: https://youtu.be/wUjXpmhOsiU
I found this related video from Detroit. Talk about a living hell.
https://youtu.be/Do75Vlp2E5w
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Swift wrote:
jixuqianjin wrote:Here's why driving a bus is so risky amidst a global pandemic: https://youtu.be/wUjXpmhOsiU
I found this related video from Detroit. Talk about a living hell.
https://youtu.be/Do75Vlp2E5w
That was from back in March. An outcome of that is that Detroit adopted rear door entry and the driver was cordoned off. TfNSW, aided and abetted by RTBU and TWU, hasn't been so merciful to drivers.
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America treats it's drivers better than Australia.
No surprises there.
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https://landtransportguru.net/public-bu ... onversion/

What do you think of such an idea? Buses that are nearing their retirement date can be refitted for this, can't they?
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Can only be done in SA if they have 11 seats or less plus the driver's seat, as buses can't be registered here once they hit 25 years.
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How do governments successfully enforce social distancing measures on public transport without decreasing overall peak hour capacity on all busses trains ferries and tram/light rail when the economy reopens and more people head back to work
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Many nurses lost their lives with this pandemic and 12/5/20 was international nurses day https://www.hollows.org/au/what-we-do/o ... 2941&jb=19
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I hear the NSW Premier has warned people against using public transport during peak hours as things are starting to return to normal.
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Trains are the big problem. Perhaps TfNSW could look at hiring in some of the hundreds of charter buses/coaches which are languishing unused around Sydney to provide point to point express services along the rail network.
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The NSW government wants to cut bus capacity back to 12 passengers per 12.5m bus for social distancing purposes
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Where did you get that from?
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