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by tonyp
Thu Oct 29, 2020 8:06 pm
Forum: Discussion - Sydney / NSW
Topic: 25/10/2020 Bus service changes - Inner West
Replies: 89
Views: 6951

Re: 25/10/2020 Bus service changes - Inner West

I don't know what's happened to the inner west interchange at Rawson Place. All buses were supposed to turn around there (no layover, just in and out on about a 15-20 second dwell). I think there is space for two artics or three rigids. That was the original concept. Has it since gone pear-shaped li...
by tonyp
Wed Oct 28, 2020 8:06 am
Forum: Discussion - Sydney / NSW
Topic: Parramatta light rail
Replies: 661
Views: 182387

Re: Parramatta light rail

I'm not convinced of the need for light rail on this route, even with big development. West Metro will provide the direct connection between Olympic Park and Parramatta, leaving the rest of the corridor as a local feeder. I would consider the task appropriate for ultimately servicing by artics - but...
by tonyp
Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:15 pm
Forum: Discussion - Sydney / NSW
Topic: Sydney Metro - Tallawong to Bankstown
Replies: 4442
Views: 755849

Re: Sydney Metro - Tallawong to Bankstown

Years ago when I was living in London, my wife went off to an appointment near Baker St somewhere, using the Tube diagrammatic map to get there. There was a change of line just one stop short of her destination and she dutifully waited down on the platform for the connecting train to come, which hap...
by tonyp
Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:53 pm
Forum: Discussion - Sydney / NSW
Topic: Parramatta light rail
Replies: 661
Views: 182387

Re: Parramatta light rail

It was on Channel 7 news tonight. Yet to be confirmed by Cabinet. Bridge at Wentworth Point still to be built. Double decker buses instead.
by tonyp
Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:02 am
Forum: Discussion - Sydney / NSW
Topic: Sydney Metro - Tallawong to Bankstown
Replies: 4442
Views: 755849

Re: Sydney Metro - Tallawong to Bankstown

boronia wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:16 am If you needed to go from Wollstonecraft to Barangaroo, the easiest and quickest option might be get off train at Wynyard and walk?
Yes, isn't that the purpose of the Wynyard Walk?
by tonyp
Sun Oct 25, 2020 7:20 pm
Forum: Discussion - Sydney / NSW
Topic: Private Bus Observations 2020
Replies: 604
Views: 91472

Re: Private Bus Observations 2020

BroadGauge wrote: Sun Oct 25, 2020 7:14 pm I noticed recently that on the northern section of route 675 between Richmond and Windsor via the RAAF Base, for most of the route whilst there are bus stops marked on the map, there is no actual signage on the ground to indicate that the bus stops there.
Welcome to the whole of rural NSW.
by tonyp
Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:02 am
Forum: Discussion - Sydney / NSW
Topic: New bus network arising from CSELR (L2/L3) opening
Replies: 241
Views: 29564

Re: New bus network arising from CSELR (L2/L3) opening

Likewise I suspect modern light rail has seen it's time in the sun as cities sought high capacity, more environmentally friendly and quiet solutions. Cheaper electric buses will fulfil many of the objectives without the infrastructure cost. I certainly don't think light rail has seen its time in sm...
by tonyp
Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:49 am
Forum: Discussion - Sydney / NSW
Topic: New bus network arising from CSELR (L2/L3) opening
Replies: 241
Views: 29564

Re: New bus network arising from CSELR (L2/L3) opening

We're talking here about the history in NSW. What parties of the right and left did in other jurisdictions is irrelevant to this topic. Many of the tram routes were actually profitable right to the end (ref. Keenan, who also worked in the DGT and had access to the information). Unlike the situation ...
by tonyp
Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:11 am
Forum: Discussion - Sydney / NSW
Topic: New bus network arising from CSELR (L2/L3) opening
Replies: 241
Views: 29564

Re: New bus network arising from CSELR (L2/L3) opening

Constance actually said that it was a mistake that the previous system was closed and it was said again by Liberals in parliament yesterday. Constance isn't against light rail, just displeased with the way this job has gone. The Liberals and some members of the Labor government in the 1950s were act...
by tonyp
Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:04 am
Forum: Discussion - Sydney / NSW
Topic: New bus network arising from CSELR (L2/L3) opening
Replies: 241
Views: 29564

Re: New bus network arising from CSELR (L2/L3) opening

Rapid transit rail isn't an ideology, it's a technological solution for supporting urban development that leads to higher populations at greater distances and provides both capacity and speed to this end. SE Sydney is identified as a region that is underpopulated considering its closeness to the Syd...
by tonyp
Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:51 pm
Forum: Discussion - Sydney / NSW
Topic: Sydney Metro - Tallawong to Bankstown
Replies: 4442
Views: 755849

Re: Sydney Metro - Tallawong to Bankstown

Not good, but how many people pay fine attention to this as they tap tap tap away with their Opal card as they move between modes? Is it really a disincentive?
by tonyp
Thu Oct 22, 2020 4:39 pm
Forum: Discussion - Sydney / NSW
Topic: New bus network arising from CSELR (L2/L3) opening
Replies: 241
Views: 29564

Re: New bus network arising from CSELR (L2/L3) opening

Well, that was a very lively and at times funny debate. The outcome was: 1. The petition was noted (that's about all Parliament could do). 2 The government advised that review of the SE bus services has been pushed back to 2021. 3. Labor members resolutely confirmed their party's anti tram attitude ...
by tonyp
Thu Oct 22, 2020 2:00 pm
Forum: Discussion - Sydney / NSW
Topic: Sydney Metro - Tallawong to Bankstown
Replies: 4442
Views: 755849

Re: Sydney Metro - Tallawong to Bankstown

The presumption is your only going to the CBD but if the transfer points for some lines are in the CBD then maybe they are transferring to the Airport Line or the Waterfall/BJ line. The transfer points appear to be Martin Place and Central in the planning for both metro lines. I think it's an unrea...
by tonyp
Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:04 pm
Forum: Discussion - Sydney / NSW
Topic: Sydney Metro - Tallawong to Bankstown
Replies: 4442
Views: 755849

Re: Sydney Metro - Tallawong to Bankstown

That's why Sydney and Australian PT will always fail. Thinking that what they do works when it clearly doesn't. The connection between buildings and where people actually want to go and the ability to transfer are the hallmarks of efficient PT services globally. How does PT within the Sydney centre...
by tonyp
Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:41 am
Forum: Discussion - Sydney / NSW
Topic: Sydney Metro - Tallawong to Bankstown
Replies: 4442
Views: 755849

Re: Sydney Metro - Tallawong to Bankstown

After having seen and experienced Perth in detail, known for its excellent interchanges, I fail to see by comparison where the shortfalls are on Sydney metro. Perth might have a slight edge in the extent of undercover bus transfers right at the station door but in Sydney the buses are all adjacent t...
by tonyp
Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:27 am
Forum: Discussion - Sydney / NSW
Topic: WS Airport Metro
Replies: 134
Views: 8708

Re: WS Airport Metro

Their thinking would be that the cross-regional link between Tallawong and Macarthur would be far greater priority considering that the airport and new city is, after all, intended to serve western, NW and SW Sydney. Links from the east don't do much for that, except that the link from Parramatta is...
by tonyp
Wed Oct 21, 2020 9:06 pm
Forum: General Transport Discussion
Topic: Life in Australia: Sydney - YouTube Documentary
Replies: 4
Views: 680

Re: Life in Australia: Sydney - YouTube Documentary

Found this rather interesting short documentary on YouTube called Life in Australia: Sydney. It forms part of a documentary series based on various cities and regional centres promoting and encouraging immigration in Australia. It is filmed in the 1960s. Here is the link: https://www.youtube.com/wa...
by tonyp
Wed Oct 21, 2020 8:28 pm
Forum: Discussion - Sydney / NSW
Topic: New bus network arising from CSELR (L2/L3) opening
Replies: 241
Views: 29564

Re: New bus network arising from CSELR (L2/L3) opening

Tess1988 wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 6:46 pm
Will there be video
Here apparently:
https://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/Pages ... SP0C_rJjKM
by tonyp
Wed Oct 21, 2020 6:12 pm
Forum: Discussion - Sydney / NSW
Topic: New bus network arising from CSELR (L2/L3) opening
Replies: 241
Views: 29564

Re: New bus network arising from CSELR (L2/L3) opening

At 1600 this Thursday, parliamentary debate on the petition opposing SE suburbs bus cuts.
by tonyp
Wed Oct 21, 2020 6:00 pm
Forum: Discussion - Sydney / NSW
Topic: WS Airport Metro
Replies: 134
Views: 8708

Re: WS Airport Metro

There are references in the text to provision being made for additional tracks of the West Metro and the Leppington Line and on the maps there is open space on the east side of the three stations. At the business park it's an open cut and, according to the diagram, there is a sloping embankment that...
by tonyp
Wed Oct 21, 2020 12:29 pm
Forum: Discussion - Sydney / NSW
Topic: WS Airport Metro
Replies: 134
Views: 8708

Re: WS Airport Metro

So looks like a ESR style design for the Airport and Aerotropolis stations with spare platforms above. From studying chapter 7 in particular, the lack of reference to the future additional lines in the station designs is rather baffling. We can see that the West Metro is coming in from the north an...
by tonyp
Wed Oct 21, 2020 9:30 am
Forum: Discussion - Sydney / NSW
Topic: Sydney Metro - Tallawong to Bankstown
Replies: 4442
Views: 755849

Re: Sydney Metro - Tallawong to Bankstown

I don't see the need for an underground link between station. Why would anybody want to interchange between the two lines at Town Hall anyway? All stations serve different local parts of the city. I note the journey time between North Sydney/Victoria Cross and Pitt St/Town Hall will be three minutes...
by tonyp
Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:29 pm
Forum: General Transport Discussion
Topic: Life in Australia: Sydney - YouTube Documentary
Replies: 4
Views: 680

Re: Life in Australia: Sydney - YouTube Documentary

Somebody needs to tell Mrs Doonan that she didn't shut the garage door properly.
by tonyp
Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:10 pm
Forum: Discussion - Sydney / NSW
Topic: Parramatta light rail
Replies: 661
Views: 182387

Re: Parramatta light rail

The Urbos 3 and Citadis 305 are current models from their respective manufacturers. One is not newer than the other. Urbos 3 was selected by TfNSW for the Inner West, Newcastle and Parramatta projects; Citadis came with the winning consortium for the SE project. Stage 2 of Parramatta is a branchline...
by tonyp
Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:38 pm
Forum: Discussion - Sydney / NSW
Topic: Sydney Metro - Tallawong to Bankstown
Replies: 4442
Views: 755849

Re: Sydney Metro - Tallawong to Bankstown

Quite possibly it's called Barangaroo because it's in the recently-named suburb of Barangaroo. Historically it should be called Millers Point, but the GNB has been busy excising bits off Millers Point over the years. There'll be no subway at North Sydney but there's a pretty traffic-free walk betwee...

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