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Linto63 wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 3:25 pm
eddy wrote: Well they can build and try it or just say no.
Who is the 'they'? The NSW TrainLink and its equivalents?
eddy wrote: Australia has a problem with innovation they are risk averse.
Can't see how innovative digging up a relic of the past, that was consigned to history with good reason, is.
I think the NHVR signed up to European standards where America did not, so now Europe calls the shots and we cannot even say how wide or heavy our buses are and while it means we may get cheaper buses the truck, trailer and bus industry will go the way of our cars.

Balance is my favorite word and this applies to truck, trailer and bus makers and I agree we have too many very small ones that do not have economies of scale but we need to keep some jobs here as we have different needs in Australia.
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eddy wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 3:04 pm
Swift wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 2:59 pm Ostraya likes to follow, not lead. Excessively conservative.
It basks in mediocrity.
If it turns out it is no good then at least we have tried it mate.
HAHA! That is if it's even given a go.
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Swift wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 4:05 pm
eddy wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 3:04 pm

If it turns out it is no good then at least we have tried it mate.
HAHA! That is if it's even given a go.
Thanks for having an open mind mate.
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Precisely what most aussies have a defecit in.
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eddy wrote: I think the NHVR signed up to European standards where America did not, so now Europe calls the shots and we cannot even say how wide or heavy our buses are and while it means we may get cheaper buses the truck, trailer and bus industry will go the way of our cars.
What does that have to do with the price of cheese?
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Linto63 wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 6:22 pm
eddy wrote: I think the NHVR signed up to European standards where America did not, so now Europe calls the shots and we cannot even say how wide or heavy our buses are and while it means we may get cheaper buses the truck, trailer and bus industry will go the way of our cars.
What does that have to do with the price of cheese?
Europe may call the shots if we can build the Trailerbus rather than Australia.
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How does the NHVR cause us to follow Europe? Their buses are too wide to meet Australian limitations for a start.
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Merc1107 wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 6:31 pm How does the NHVR cause us to follow Europe? Their buses are too wide to meet Australian limitations for a start.
There is a lot of pressure for us to comply with them with buses,trucks and trailers but if we rollover we can say goodbye to out bus, truck and trailers.
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Why this terror over 5 measly cm? Adelaide was even wider and they are a little provincial city yet (at least were) an oasis of innovation and advanced thinking.
Great Britain have scrawny little road lanes yet permit 2.55m buses but somehow it's unacceptable here.
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Swift wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 6:51 pm Why this terror over 5 measly cm? Adelaide was even wider and they are a little provincial city yet (at least were) an oasis of innovation and advanced thinking.
Great Britain have scrawny little road lanes yet permit 2.55m buses but somehow it's unacceptable here.
The world is mainly 2.55 m even NZ and we may be able to compete which is hard with our high wages but maybe we have to suck it up, but personally it is hard to draw a centreline with 2.55 ha ha

Anyway it is up to future generations as you can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it drink.
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Please Eddy, give it a rest. We're sick and tired of hearing about your mythical trailerbus infiltrating every thread. Your suggestion that it could replace the XPT, let alone any future upgraded service, is ridiculous. It's never going to happen, so just accept that fact and move on. Your comments belong on a fantasy thread, if one exists on ATDB.
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Transtopic wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 10:32 pm Please Eddy, give it a rest. We're sick and tired of hearing about your mythical trailerbus infiltrating every thread. Your suggestion that it could replace the XPT, let alone any future upgraded service, is ridiculous. It's never going to happen, so just accept that fact and move on. Your comments belong on a fantasy thread, if one exists on ATDB.
As buses cannot take bikes and mobility scooters, that we will all be on as we age, I thought it was a good idea as instead of having to maintain an old bus you could just replace the prime mover when the battery does not go 1,000 kilometers.

The problem is that I am always thinking about the dollars and not how pretty it is and I would love to know how many feel like you.
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stajourneyman wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 9:27 am Methinks this whole thing is a giant stitch up, and Eddy boy is yanking your chains and laughing till he wets himself.
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Tch tch such set in stone cynics here. As Derryn Hinch used to say shame shame shame.
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Perhaps the Trailerbus can have more advertising as it is double deck and it also would be cheaper to run than the XPT+ single deck coaches that both require maintenance where with the Trailerbus the prime mover gets traded in on a new one when the battery will not allow 1,000 kilometers.

This is a good video on fare box return. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t36NZ3QWtNs
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I wonder which country will build a Trailerbus first.

Trailerbus on your phone. https://app.sketchup.com/share/tc/north ... source=web
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Brazil runs them and they have more manufacturing than Australia.
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Swift wrote: Sun Dec 31, 2023 3:39 pm Brazil runs them and they have more manufacturing than Australia.
Thanks mate, evidently it is all buses in Brazil but I could not find a Trailerbus only this.

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I saw the beginning of a video on them but can't find it now.
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Swift wrote: Sun Dec 31, 2023 7:33 pm I saw the beginning of a video on them but can't find it now.
It may have been this double bendy mate. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61Odd3mKVXk
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I saw the tired old XPT today and I really think when it is replaced with the Trailerbus it should be kept for weekend use like the old steam trains.
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Not enough buses. https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/we- ... 5eu14.html

I think 100 Trailerbuses would do the trick costing $25,000,000 and using subbie prime movers.

Trailerbus on your phone. https://app.sketchup.com/share/tc/north ... source=web

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I know the subbies would have diesel engines but they are pretty clean now and it is only temporary.
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With thy lack of professionalism of lots and lots of Australia's truck drivers, I wouldnt want lives in the hands of some of these ruffians being contracted to.
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Swift wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 2:25 pm With thy lack of professionalism of lots and lots of Australia's truck drivers, I wouldnt want lives in the hands of some of these ruffians being contracted to.
There are drivers and drovers and I have thought on why some buses seem to think it is a race track flying around the corners and giving buses a bad rap.

To address this I think an accelerometer in the Trailerbus would quickly sort the wheat from the chaff.

A HC licence is bigger than a HR or MR which most bus drivers have and they will not be distracted by the riot in the back but just switch the blue light on the rear and keep driving until the police stop the bus and assist the driver.
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When anything is changed there will be protests but the ace card is safety and to replace the old XPT with faster and cheaper Trailerbuses it should be pointed out that it is much safer with the motor at the front like the new VW and only third world countries need a door next to the driver to pay cash.
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