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Oaklands crossing closure

Postby jibb » Tue Mar 12, 2019 8:34 am

This crossing will close from April 13th to May 4th to enable works to complete the opening of the below ground rail line.
Substitute buses will operate between the City and Brighton Station,with trains running between Brighton and Seaford.
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Re: Oaklands crossing closure

Postby PD2/20 » Tue Mar 12, 2019 8:57 am

jibb wrote:This crossing will close from April 13th to May 4th to enable works to complete the opening of the below ground rail line.
Substitute buses will operate between the City and Brighton Station,with trains running between Brighton and Seaford.

Presumably this is only a rail closure and not a rail and road closure?
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Re: Oaklands crossing closure

Postby Skexis » Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:26 pm

Southlink providing the rail subs? N3's and N4's?
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Re: Oaklands crossing closure

Postby Eurostar » Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:12 pm

Why can't trains simply run City to Clovelly Park. The buses could use the former Mitsubishi carpark
Next station is Victoria Square. Change here for all trains.
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Re: Oaklands crossing closure

Postby PD2/20 » Sat Mar 16, 2019 12:58 pm

Eurostar wrote:Why can't trains simply run City to Clovelly Park. The buses could use the former Mitsubishi carpark

The overhead power supply to the city is through the overhead wires from Lonsdale substation. The overhead will be isolated at Warradale to allow the installation of overhead on the new track, the removal of the overhead from the existing track and for heavy machinery operations in the vicinity. The diesel railcar fleet is fully committed to the other lines. Even if trains ran to Clovelly Park or Tonsley, bus replacements would still be needed for Woodlands to Brighton.

Part of the Gawler electrification work is to provide a second feeder substation adjacent to the Electranet/SA Power Networks substations at Kilburn. I believe the site works for the rail substation are now under way.
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Re: Oaklands crossing closure

Postby I Follow PAFC » Sun Mar 17, 2019 11:25 am

SOUTHERN TRAINS TO GRIND TO HALT
OAKLANDS UPGRADE Southern train commuters face more than three weeks of outages as the Oaklands crossing upgrade enters its final stages. Here’s what to expect.

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https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/sou ... e3201495ff
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Re: Oaklands crossing closure

Postby Skexis » Sun Mar 17, 2019 5:18 pm

Hmm. All that money wasted a few years ago removing the old station and building a new one nearer the crossing only for it now to be ripped up and rebuilt again. Never mind eh - it's not the politicians money paying for it, just ours again.
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Re: Oaklands crossing closure

Postby PD2/20 » Sun Mar 17, 2019 5:27 pm

I Follow PAFC wrote:SOUTHERN TRAINS TO GRIND TO HALT
OAKLANDS UPGRADE Southern train commuters face more than three weeks of outages as the Oaklands crossing upgrade enters its final stages. Here’s what to expect.

Pay wall.
https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/sou ... e3201495ff

Given the amount of work to cut in the track through the new station, a 2-3 week closure is not unreasonable. It is fortunate that the majority of the work on the new trench, station and new bridges could take place over the past few months with minimal disruption to the SeCompare that with the months long closure of the Port Line for the Torrens Junction projects when the trench excavation and construction of the Bowden station couldn't be undertaken without the line closure. At Oaklands nevertheless with some civil engineering at the Warradale end of the new section, as well as work on the track, overhead and signalling, the length of closure is required. Opportunity is being taken during the closure to upgrade three pedestrian crossings west of Oaklands, and I would also not be surprised if the wooden sleepered track from Oaklands to Warradale is replaced with concrete sleepered track.

Rail closures are not done just for the fun of it. There generally is a good justification for the interuption!

Update: The March Newsletter from the Oaklands project team is now available https://ptpa-public-assets.s3.amazonaws.com/general-downloads/Oaklands-Crossing-Grade-Separation/Project-UpdatesNewsletters/Approved-March-2019-Newsletter.pdf. Page 4 gives details of the scope of work during the closure including the final excavations, construction of retaining walls, track, overhead and signal works. The replacement of the Oaklands - Warradale track is specifically mentioned as is overhead work outside the main work area.
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Re: Oaklands crossing closure

Postby PD2/20 » Sun Mar 17, 2019 5:50 pm

Skexis wrote:Hmm. All that money wasted a few years ago removing the old station and building a new one nearer the crossing only for it now to be ripped up and rebuilt again. Never mind eh - it's not the politicians money paying for it, just ours again.

The old station shelter contained asbestos and needed attention. The station access was in part via a narrow subway. The rebuilt station was brought closre to Diagonal and Morphett Rds with their bus routes. Gated pedestrian crossings were intalled for safety reasons. It should be noted that the rebuilding of Oaklands in 2008 (and the construction of Mawson Interchange in 2006) predated the system wide revitalisation programme and possibly should be seen as significant as the first steps towards the modernisation of the rail network that has occurred in the last ten years. Indeed had Oaklands not been resited, the present project would have been more complex as the subway and access from Crozier Terrace would have had to be removed to allow the new line to be built! Serious planning of the grade separation on started in 2011, 3 years after the opening of the resited station.
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Re: Oaklands crossing closure

Postby Eagle Eye » Mon Mar 18, 2019 9:52 am

Whilst it would only be a minimal service, I'm sure a carriage could be pulled from a couple of Gawler services, any maybe a Grange service, to have two 2-car diesel sets running to Tonsley on a half hour frequency during these 3 weeks. It is school holidays after all so loadings should be slightly lower on all lines. At least that way customers north of Ascot Park wouldn't be too heavily inconvenienced, and it would allow most interpeak, night & weekend services to operate as a bus between Brighton and Tonsley only.

This would be more convenient for most passengers than a bus all the way from Brighton to Adelaide.

At the very least, diesel trains should run to Tonsley on weekends. I wonder if diesels will run to Tonsley on AFL match days during this closure?
$2,500 fines for vehicles illegally using red Bus Only lanes - could cut the state's debt real quickly if they extended that to regular Bus Lanes!
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Re: Oaklands crossing closure

Postby thedom » Mon Apr 08, 2019 6:32 pm

:roll: Surprised by this N3/N3X timetabling - two services depart at the same scheduled time, one has a timetabled stop between CBD and Oakland's - the other runs express - which one is due at Oakland's first?


That's right, the extra stopper:!: (Every time according to the down trips).
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Re: Oaklands crossing closure

Postby PD2/20 » Mon Apr 08, 2019 11:05 pm

thedom wrote::roll: Surprised by this N3/N3X timetabling - two services depart at the same scheduled time, one has a timetabled stop between CBD and Oakland's - the other runs express - which one is due at Oakland's first?


That's right, the extra stopper:!: (Every time according to the down trips).

Could it be that since the N3X terminates at Oaklands that it is routed slightly differently?
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