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Ventura Group News 2019

Postby MotorOmnibus8562 » Tue Jan 01, 2019 8:17 am

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Re: Ventura Group News 2019

Postby scott » Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:57 am

The Busminder system is being rolled out on Knox and Lilydale based buses, buses I have travelled on from those 2 depots have had the holders installed.
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Re: Ventura Group News 2019

Postby neilrex » Sat Mar 02, 2019 3:41 pm

very bad seats on bus number 1037.

So I was visiting Melbourne recently and caught bus 1037. There were only 2 passengers on it, including me.

I sat on the first forward-facing seat behind the three inward facing wheelchair seats. At the first intersection, I fell on the floor.

After this happened twice, I set on the other side.

I noticed that the bottom part of these two seats - the part you actually sit on, was angled about 3 degrees off the horizontal,
with the lowest side at the front. That is contrary to the normal seats which angled with the seats about three degrees
higher at the front.

Those three degrees actually make a big difference when it comes to falling of the seat, or not.

Whoever designed or installed those seats like that is a moron.
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Re: Ventura Group News 2019

Postby Andy O » Sun Mar 03, 2019 1:52 pm

Another new "Optimus" Arctic sitting at Volgren Dandenong yesterday. Not sure of the chassis
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Re: Ventura Group News 2019

Postby neilrex » Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:23 pm

same dodgy seats on bus 659
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Re: Ventura Group News 2019

Postby scott » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:50 am

Noticed in the fleetlists and on the road a number of transfers of buses between Knox, Lilydale, Croydon and Monbulk.

A lot of 732 trips are now being done by Lilydale drivers and buses (noticed on the running board when sitting behind the driver) and 737 trips being done by Croydon drivers and buses. A driver told me that there was roster changes and sharing of routes between depots in the Ventura Eastern region.

My afternoon 732 trip was done with a Lilydale driver as noted above, who made a mistake leaving Box Hill, exiting to Station street directly, and not via Carrington road, a conversation on the two way later, we turned right into Whitehorse Road, did a U Turn and turned left back into Station street and back onto route. Things should settle down as drivers get used to their new routes. I saw one driver go on his break at Knox this morning and emerge from the newsagency with a nice new Melways street directory!!!!

The navigation app was quickly put into use, us passengers who sit in the front half of the bus can hear it, in my opinion it is a good help to the drivers, even if the American accent grates after a while.
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Re: Ventura Group News 2019

Postby B10BLE » Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:38 pm

The depot sharing of routes is interesting, having witnessed it myself.

Yesterday I was waiting for a bus to Springvale, Dandenong B7RLE Optimus 1065 operated the 824 to Parkmore (I live close to Parkmore so waiting for the same bus didn't take long) however, the return trip was operated by a Moorabbin B12BLE. I think it works by one bus doing one trip each way with the other waiting to take its place, at least to my knowledge on the 824. I'd imagine 1065 did its trip to Moorabbin, on the return to Keysborough, the Moorabbin based bus waits for its arrival, once 1065 was empty, it either went back to Dandenong or was in lay-over in the Cheltenham Rd service road, rinse and repeat.
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Re: Ventura Group News 2019

Postby Leyland B21 » Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:54 pm

B10BLE wrote:The depot sharing of routes is interesting, having witnessed it myself.

Yesterday I was waiting for a bus to Springvale, Dandenong B7RLE Optimus 1065 operated the 824 to Parkmore (I live close to Parkmore so waiting for the same bus didn't take long) however, the return trip was operated by a Moorabbin B12BLE. I think it works by one bus doing one trip each way with the other waiting to take its place, at least to my knowledge on the 824. I'd imagine 1065 did its trip to Moorabbin, on the return to Keysborough, the Moorabbin based bus waits for its arrival, once 1065 was empty, it either went back to Dandenong or was in lay-over in the Cheltenham Rd service road, rinse and repeat.
Stay tuned as Oakleigh will be joining Dandenong and Moorabbin sharing in the near future too

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Re: Ventura Group News 2019

Postby timmy1966 » Sat Mar 16, 2019 12:43 pm

Will this mean that there will be transfers between these depots as well,the same as the eastern depots?...Also on another note is the bus fleet list page part of this forum,if no who runs it?...The Transdev page does not mention Thomastown depot and it's allocation or Sunshine depot and it's allocation it still lists Airport West,Footscray,Reservoir and ?....please fix.
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Re: Ventura Group News 2019

Postby 1whoknows » Sun Mar 17, 2019 7:50 am

You can email the Victorian list co-ordinator using the link at the bottom of each list. However its worth saying that Transdev depot allocations are essentially meaningless, especially on the orbitals as its quite usual for a bus to stay Monday night at Thomastown, Tuesday at Keysborough, Wed at Sunshine etc etc. The same will be increasingly true for Ventura within its regions as a bus that was at Lilydale last night might be at Knox or Monlbulk tonight and so so. Its a new world.
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Re: Ventura Group News 2019

Postby burrumbus » Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:23 pm

1whoknows wrote:You can email the Victorian list co-ordinator using the link at the bottom of each list. However its worth saying that Transdev depot allocations are essentially meaningless, especially on the orbitals as its quite usual for a bus to stay Monday night at Thomastown, Tuesday at Keysborough, Wed at Sunshine etc etc. The same will be increasingly true for Ventura within its regions as a bus that was at Lilydale last night might be at Knox or Monlbulk tonight and so so. Its a new world.

And just increase the complexity of running their businesses immeasurably when the old systems worked just fine.
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Re: Ventura Group News 2019

Postby gen man » Mon Mar 18, 2019 9:09 pm

1whoknows wrote:You can email the Victorian list co-ordinator using the link at the bottom of each list. However its worth saying that Transdev depot allocations are essentially meaningless, especially on the orbitals as its quite usual for a bus to stay Monday night at Thomastown, Tuesday at Keysborough, Wed at Sunshine etc etc. The same will be increasingly true for Ventura within its regions as a bus that was at Lilydale last night might be at Knox or Monlbulk tonight and so so. Its a new world.


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Re: Ventura Group News 2019

Postby timmy1966 » Wed Mar 20, 2019 5:11 am

Thanks for the replies regarding my query on the Transdev allocations,i didn't realize that everything is so complicated now as far as bus fleet allocations go.Can we maybe have the on paper base allocations then of what is supposed to be at each depot even though the reality is different sometimes,such as M.A.N 500-510 are at Sunshine.On another note i saw a Volgren Optimus with the fleet no.5071 running for Kastoria in Craigieburn yesterday.
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Re: Ventura Group News 2019

Postby 1whoknows » Wed Mar 20, 2019 6:03 am

Transdev theoretical allocations have been published in Australian Bus Panorama on several occasions in recent years - usually after a major reorganisation.
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Re: Ventura Group News 2019

Postby BusPlaneTrainTram » Wed Mar 20, 2019 6:13 am

timmy1966 wrote:.On another note i saw a Volgren Optimus with the fleet no.5071 running for Kastoria in Craigieburn yesterday.


From the fleet lists for Broadmeadows:

71 BS01AL Volvo B7RLE YV3R6R624FA169347 Volgren "Optimus" VG3924 1.2015 B42DW

A major revamp of the three Northern fleetlists was done on the 10th of March.

This was also noted:
504 5946AO Mercedes Benz O500LE WEB63422021000275 Volgren "CR228L" VG2097 1.2006 B39DW [ex #4]. So the fleet might be being merged to have a cross business fleet numbering.
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Re: Ventura Group News 2019

Postby burrumbus » Wed Mar 20, 2019 6:28 am

504 has been numbered as such just after Dom Sita purchased the Broadmeadows business.The 3 fleets remain numbered in their original sequences and their has been no attempt to introduce a fleet wide numbering system.The system in place at the 3 companies must work for them.
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Re: Ventura Group News 2019

Postby miclementson » Wed Mar 20, 2019 1:37 pm

Thanks for this information. In the last week I have seen 993 (The only CB80) of Croydon Depot on the 737; and then 858 (Lilydale's only Designline) at KnoX City; thought it was on 737 but quite possibly the 732.
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Re: Ventura Group News 2019

Postby miclementson » Wed Mar 20, 2019 1:42 pm

Actually I have for a long time thought that they needed some changes; too many empty buses running up and down Scoresby Road over the years; then today I saw three in the space of a few minutes'. Two going north, other going south. Coming from London; where in the 1960's the then longer routes were often shared between two Garages. Privatisation has seen the end of this and far more 'Not Taking Passengers' buses are seen.
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