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January 2019 service changes

Postby hillsbus » Tue Dec 18, 2018 3:37 pm

Will there be any service changes in late January e.g. to reflect the Government's cost saving measures or will these occur later in 2019?
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Re: January 2019 service changes

Postby jibb » Tue Dec 18, 2018 5:21 pm

Yes,that is when the cuts to services are planned to be implemented.
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Re: January 2019 service changes

Postby hillsbus » Tue Dec 18, 2018 5:56 pm

Thanks Jibb.

I'd say Sunday 27 January would be the likely day?

I presume it will largely be alot of late night services that will be cut or are there others that will need to be cut?
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Re: January 2019 service changes

Postby TA3001 » Wed Dec 19, 2018 12:05 am

I would assume that this would ultimately see less shifts for the companies to cover, and hence less buses required overall, enabling more premature retirements.
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Re: January 2019 service changes

Postby jibb » Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:00 am

The only reason less buses would be required is if they cut services in peak hours,which I doubt.
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Re: January 2019 service changes

Postby Eurostar » Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:29 am

How is this State Government going to increase public transport patronage and decrease traffic congestion and travel times if all they are doing is cut cut cut funding for public transport?
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Re: January 2019 service changes

Postby I Follow PAFC » Thu Dec 20, 2018 11:40 am

Bus timetable changes January 2019.
https://www.adelaidemetro.com.au/Announ ... nuary-2019
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Re: January 2019 service changes

Postby Eurostar » Fri Jan 11, 2019 10:02 pm

Many years ago we had a good mix of city based routes and cross suburban routes nowadays its mainly city based, thats ok during peak hours but at other times people mainly just want to go from suburb to suburb.

361, good route but too infrequent
for a busy road, deviating this route via Dry Creek Station will allow connections with train services allowing people to travel via public transport rather than driving and it will help reduce congestion between Port Adelaide and Salisbury.

300 is a good route but at nights and weekends its too infrequent

100 is a good route but at nights and weekends its non existent or too infrequent

No route between Port Adelaide and Brighton via Tapleys Hill Road, a half hourly service will help reduce congestion along this corridor

J7/J8, good route but too infrequent for people wanting to get to the airport by bus, non existent on weekends

101, good route but too infrequent, no service on weekends

190 between Glenelg and Mitcham is too infrequent on weekends

320, good route but its duplicating with the G20 and G21 between Flinders Hospital and Aberfoyle Hub

Most of the northern and southern routes are hourly on weekends which doesn't make sense as many hospitality venues are busy on weekends

In the hills towns like Birdwood, Gumeracha, Lobethal and Woodside are popular on weekends and summer nights when events like the Lobethal Christmas Lights or Oakbank Races but there is no bus services
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Re: January 2019 service changes

Postby jibb » Fri Jan 11, 2019 10:29 pm

Agree about a bus service between Port Adelaide and Glenelg, in fact it should run from Noarlunga Centre servicing NC Train , also Brighton Station. Brighton Road traffic is horrendous in peak hours and is pretty busy at off-peak times.I am sure if there was a frequent service along these roads it would take some of this traffic off the roads.

There is probably a need for a service from at least Glenelg to Salisbury as there are lots of workers who live in the southern inner and outer suburbs who work out Salisbury(and even Mawson Lakes) who maybe could be enticed off the roads if there was a decnt bus service.

Regrettfully DPTI don't seem to e interested in trying anything new.
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Re: January 2019 service changes

Postby The Phonj » Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:41 pm

My experience with Tapleys Hill Rd is that the traffic starts to build up at around 0600; possibly a little earlier. Any service running along the length of Tapleys Hill Rd would need to start around 0500 or even slightly earlier to be a viable alternative to driving.
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Re: January 2019 service changes

Postby jibb » Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:09 pm

Brighton Road is very similar-at 600am in the morning traffic is very heavy, probably at least 1/3 turn off at Sir Donald Bradman Drive headed to the Airport.
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Re: January 2019 service changes

Postby Eagle Eye » Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:43 am

jibb wrote:Agree about a bus service between Port Adelaide and Glenelg, in fact it should run from Noarlunga Centre servicing NC Train , also Brighton Station. Brighton Road traffic is horrendous in peak hours and is pretty busy at off-peak times.I am sure if there was a frequent service along these roads it would take some of this traffic off the roads.

Taking this service to Noarlunga Centre would be duplicating the train line. It certainly needs connections to the train line - possibly Hove. There isn't a lot of patronage around the Lonsdale Rd area that isn't serviced well by trains and feeder buses, so I'd probably have the service terminate at Marion Centre (which provides other bus connections) or continue via Main South Rd or some other route through the outer southern suburbs which would help to provide cross suburban services. I'd even go beyond Port Adelaide and right up to Osborne. It would need to run early enough to be useful for workers as others have mentioned. This could connect with (or work in tandem with) a route from Mawson Lakes to Port Adelaide and Osborne.

A similar service along the coast would also be useful. The 300 should operate expanded hours, or a new service partly servicing Tapleys Hill Rd and partly servicing the beaches north of Henley Beach would be beneficial, especially Semaphore which has fairly poor services, and extremely limited services from Port Adelaide. Perhaps some of the short 300 trips between Marion Centre and Glenelg could be reduced to offset some of the costs of this new service.
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Re: January 2019 service changes

Postby I Follow PAFC » Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:51 pm

:evil: :evil: :evil:

333
All services removed except 2 morning and 2 afternoon peak trips, due to close proximity to Outer Harbor train line and low patronage
Services from Military Road 59 at 08.34am and 09.04am retained
Services from Port Adelaide at 2.30pm and 3.15pm retained
Buses to Australian Submarine Corporation will continue to operate
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Re: January 2019 service changes

Postby hillsbus » Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:57 am

Looks like most of the new timetables are now up on the AdMet site when searching for each route individually.

New combined 150/333 timetable here - https://www.adelaidemetro.com.au/conten ... -01-19.pdf
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Re: January 2019 service changes

Postby bigrobbo » Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:15 pm

I don’t understand how the Port Road Go Zone can disappear, yet, the Churchill Rd one stays. Maybe Churchill Rd is not far away enough from a train line I guess.


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Re: January 2019 service changes

Postby thedom » Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:27 pm

bigrobbo wrote:I don’t understand how the Port Road Go Zone can disappear, yet, the Churchill Rd one stays. Maybe Churchill Rd is not far away enough from a train line I guess.


It would seem they added Grange Train minor timetable tweaks to some services... The new timetable has later departure times from the city from:57 to :02 / & :27 to :32.
On the up, there appears to be a 'go zone' of trains city bound at least during the inter peak hours but on the down services are 10 & 20 minutes apart.. including weekends from the city.

I'd love to understand how these are service improvements to the station along these lines; perhaps they envisage less patronage on the OH trains between ADL-WDV PK as a result each half hour? Unlikely to make a difference other than extending the wait time for the next service if you just miss the OH service.

Further noting there is 1 min scheduled between Grange and East Grange stations, it takes a minute to exit the curve at Grange, let alone build speed and stop at East Grange. Poor timetabling on this will see the Grange train forever late running. Google Maps times used perhaps?
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Re: January 2019 service changes

Postby bigrobbo » Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:34 pm

I am also shocked at the reduced services along the Main North Rd Go Zone on a weekend. The service has gone from every 20 minutes to every 30 minutes. I thought that passenger numbers were solid along this route.


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Re: January 2019 service changes

Postby Eurostar » Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:06 pm

745 leaves Noarlunga Station at 7 minutes past the hour
751 leaves Noarlunga Station at 56 minutes past the hour

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Re: January 2019 service changes

Postby route 228 » Sat Jan 19, 2019 2:00 pm

Well if I read it right, The Main North services from the city at weeknight with the 224 Gone No replacement 222 for City /Gepps Cross passengers at 10.45pm and 1145pm,
All your left with is the 228 at 10.15pm and 11.15pm, Going to need a artic Friday night for sure.

And while you have 228s Saturday Night at 10.43pm and 11.43pm,

Last Main North Road service Sunday night Is the 228 Leaving Victoria Square 9.49pm.
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Re: January 2019 service changes

Postby hillsbus » Sat Jan 19, 2019 2:54 pm

Good pick up Route 228!

Quite bizarre how early the last bus is on a Sunday night, especially when a 222 and two 228s arrive into the City after the last outbound trip has left! Presume they'll all run not in service back to Pooraka Depot?
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Re: January 2019 service changes

Postby bigrobbo » Sat Jan 19, 2019 3:23 pm

route 228 wrote:Going to need a artic Friday night for sure.


You know that the last bus will be exclusively an NL202


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Re: January 2019 service changes

Postby jibb » Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:05 pm

Torrens Transit very rarely uses these buses at nights or weekends.
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Re: January 2019 service changes

Postby TA3001 » Sat Jan 19, 2019 10:53 pm

jibb wrote:Torrens Transit very rarely uses these buses at nights or weekends.


It is common for Southlink Lonsdale to have them out on weekends, and occasionally there's one or two Edinburgh North ones out. Newton tends to have them out on straight shifts at any time, and occasionally Mile End sends one or two out. 1354 did a 21W shift during the show last year.

Some of the coords/drivers see them as clapped out old rustboxes, where as some of them see them as fairly reliable accessible buses that run on diesel.
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Re: January 2019 service changes

Postby Route 506 » Mon Jan 21, 2019 12:58 pm

I must say that I am also surprised and disappointed in the reduction of services along Main North Road. It surely can't be based on patronage as Main North Road usually seems fairly consistent when I have travelled along there. I would have thought it should remain a 20 minute Zone along there.

Agree with earlier posts re a Port Adelaide to Glenelg/Brighton bus service, something like the previously used 340-345 routes would probably work well, but I must say I'm almost past much hope of getting many (If any) PT upgrades whilst this Government is in charge.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Grange train simply becomes a single carriage feeder from Woodville to Grange in the future apart from maybe a few peak services or the first and last train to start and finish from the City/Dry Creek Depot, but I hope not!

Not looking forward to what the Government will have planned for mid year cuts!
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Re: January 2019 service changes

Postby bigrobbo » Mon Jan 21, 2019 1:05 pm

The Mawson Lakes/Main North Road Go Zone is still there on all maps and advertising, but it does not exist in reality.

222 services leave MLI at 4:05pm, 4:31pm, 5:01pm 5:31pm. 6:01pm and 6:18pm.

The 228F's still run during this time. So, in theory, from MLI to Main North Rd and then from stop 17 to the city are not Go Zones during this time.
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