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New tender for bus supply for next 10 years

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New tender for bus supply for next 10 years

Postby jibb » Wed Nov 28, 2018 3:49 pm

The State Government will today release the tender for the supply of Adelaide Metro buses over the next 10 years.
In September the Marshall Government cancelled the previous tender released by the former Labor Government because it was rigid and would not result in the best value for money or service delivery outcomes for South Australians.
Today a new tender will be released that will provide greater flexibility in Adelaide Metro's bus network and help deliver better bus services for South Australians.
This tender provides an excellent opportunity to look at new, innovative and efficient buses as we look to improve South Australia's public transport network said Minister for Transport, Infrastructure and Local Government Stephan Knoll.
The Marshall Government is in the process of establishing the South Australian Public Transport Authority(SAPTA) which will help shape the future of public transport delivery in our state.
The supply of new buses for the Adelaide Metro network is a key component in that reform process.
The Marshall Government is committed to delivering better, more reliable and customer focused public transport services for South Australians.
Technology in the public transport space is moving at a rapid pace.
We need a bus contract that can keep pace with these changing technologies, so we can provide the best service possible for South Australians.

South Australians need a contract that has the flexibility and responsiveness to ensure we have the opportunity to access the latest,most efficient and cost effective public transport options.
DPTI manages 990 buses in Metropolitan Adelaide as part of Adelaide Metro Public Transport system.

Tenders close on the 21st February 2019
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Re: New tender for bus supply for next 10 years

Postby Skexis » Wed Nov 28, 2018 8:34 pm

I just hope they consider the bus drivers when making the final choice. It's the small things like being able to manually select the air con temperature that are important to us. Dual zone climate control, one area for us and one for the passengers would be the ideal solution but I suspect this will be placed in the "too hard' basket straightaway :(
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Re: New tender for bus supply for next 10 years

Postby Tim Williams » Thu Nov 29, 2018 8:58 am

The average fleet age should about 12 years which obviously is just under a reasonable maximum age of 25 years for a fleet with the sort of "medium use" in global terms. Hong Kong, for example operates their franchised buses much harder than we do in comparatively adverse conditions (high passenger loads, very hilly terrain and a sometimes difficult climate). I think their buses are pensioned off at 20 years, or maybe less.

So this contract should plan to get the average fleet age down to 12 years (if it is above that, at present) and then put through a regular order of say 50 buses per year to maintain that average and allow for marginal fleet growth. This would greatly assist hopefully a local supplier who would be assured of regular work, thus maintaining a skilled workforce etc. The boom or bust of previous generations killed off local suppliers!

We do need to ensure whoever supplies does so in accordance with World's best practice of technology, design, and manufacture and if that means manufacturing or assembly of overseas designs, so be it!

And Skexis, what is wrong with current air conditioning? - if sufficient air can be fed to the front - top deck of a DD (Big windscreens too!) surely extra vents only might be all that is needed, if anything on our relatively small single deckers and artics have 2 systems anyway.
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Re: New tender for bus supply for next 10 years

Postby Eurostar » Thu Nov 29, 2018 7:21 pm

I think there should be another double decker bus or two should be bought, trial one on the T721/T722, maybe even the G22
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Re: New tender for bus supply for next 10 years

Postby Skexis » Thu Nov 29, 2018 9:15 pm

Tim Williams wrote:And Skexis, what is wrong with current air conditioning? - if sufficient air can be fed to the front - top deck of a DD (Big windscreens too!) surely extra vents only might be all that is needed, if anything on our relatively small single deckers and artics have 2 systems anyway.

The trial buses we've seen so far at SL have had aircon with a preset temperature that cannot be adjusted. On cold days 22° in the passenger area is probably more like 16° in the drivers area. On hot days 22° in the passenger area is more like 28° for the driver. We are nearly always either too cold or too hot and with the front doors opening every minute or two it never gets any better. With adjustable air con we can get a more comfortable temperature in which to do our job. People seem to forget the most important person in a bus is the driver.
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Re: New tender for bus supply for next 10 years

Postby Douglas » Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:00 pm

Skexis wrote:Dual zone climate control, one area for us and one for the passengers would be the ideal solution but I suspect this will be placed in the "too hard' basket straightaway :(

Hispacold appear to make a dual zone controller, so it's not totally outside the realm of possibility.
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