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[Jul/Aug 2018] SA Transport observations

Postby transenthusiast » Mon Jul 02, 2018 5:16 pm

I was on my 167 going past Mile End depot a couple or so Fridays ago & I saw 1362 round the back alongside 1900. Anyone know what's going on with both of them?
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Re: [May/Jun 2018] SA Transport observations

Postby jibb » Mon Jul 02, 2018 5:44 pm

1900 has been out the back for some time. Volvo 1305 is out the back at Port Depot with some of its panels missing, also some windows-covered in plastic.
it has been sitting there for several months.
Just wondering if its been withdrawn?
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Re: [May/Jun 2018] SA Transport observations

Postby Eurostar » Tue Jul 03, 2018 6:19 pm

I saw today a volgren scania l94ub 2axle/3axle bus with orange desto
Next station is Victoria Square. Change here for all trains.
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Re: [May/Jun 2018] SA Transport observations

Postby TA3001 » Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:55 pm

I think 3359 is the one with the new display.
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Re: [May/Jun 2018] SA Transport observations

Postby TT » Tue Jul 03, 2018 8:29 pm

Volvo 1305 is out the back at Port Depot with some of its panels missing, also some windows-covered in plastic.
it has been sitting there for several months.

1305 was there for some body repairs but is not there any longer. I believe has been returned to Mile End and likely to be back in service soon, if not already in service.
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Re: [May/Jun 2018] SA Transport observations

Postby busrider » Wed Jul 04, 2018 2:28 am

TA3001 wrote:I think 3359 is the one with the new display.


3350 is the one, had it since February.
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Re: [May/Jun 2018] SA Transport observations

Postby thedom » Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:13 pm

Starting to notice variations to the first version of the red/blue livery on 30xx/31xx series trains.

Some with black and now some with high visible reflection tape the length of the carriage at the bottom of the external body, some with a retained blue surrounding highlights to the door frames others with bright yellow door framework and this one pictured with a high visible patches on the frontage above and below windows.

Seems like they are trying different options out? Noticed new brakes on 3120 this morning - reminds me of the type possibly fitted to melbournes comeng trains by the sounds -though far less noise at this early stage.
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Re: [May/Jun 2018] SA Transport observations

Postby TA3001 » Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:29 pm

Are there any operational benefits associated with spending all this dosh just to uglify them even more?
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Re: [May/Jun 2018] SA Transport observations

Postby thedom » Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:35 pm

New engines extend life, same as bogies and brakes etc.. the external livery is unlikely to improve the ride unless you believe that red goes faster and ignore the other improvements.
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Re: [May/Jun 2018] SA Transport observations

Postby thedom » Thu Jul 05, 2018 3:07 pm

https://www.adelaidemetro.com.au/Announcements/Planned-Disruptions/Seaford-train-timetable-updates-from-23-July-2018

The Seaford train timetable is being updated as a result of passenger feedback from Monday 23 July 2018.

The 8.08am train departing from Seaford will now service all stops from Seaford to Woodlands Park, then will run express to the city. The arrival time of this train in the city has not changed, still arriving at Adelaide Railway Station at 8.53am.

This will make it easier for students around Marion and Hove stations to now get to school and for parents to drop them off and get into the city before 9am.

Passengers who previously alighted at stations between Woodlands Park and the city will now need to change trains at Woodlands Park.

Source: adelaidemetro.com.au

Apparently they will update a timetable for one service change now... signs of a new government at the helm?
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Re: [May/Jun 2018] SA Transport observations

Postby The judge and jury » Thu Jul 05, 2018 5:44 pm

As frustrated as I've been with trains on gawler line since they resleepered the upgraded trains with new engines seem a lot better.

Quite fast acceleration taking off from stations and speed in between.

Not sure about the repaint and whether it is necessary.

Assume some bureaucrat thought it might increase patronage as port power supporters refused to catch the ones emblazed in crows colours lol.

Look like they have been badged for the French transport authority
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Re: [May/Jun 2018] SA Transport observations

Postby Skexis » Sat Jul 07, 2018 12:30 pm

TA3001 wrote:Are there any operational benefits associated with spending all this dosh just to uglify them even more?

Yeah, red makes vehicles go faster. Everyone knows that.
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Re: [Jul/Aug 2018] SA Transport observations

Postby Route 506 » Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:42 pm

I caught train 3123 yesterday which is still in original yellow Adelaide Metro livery, and as I got on it I thought it was making some sort of strange noise (proving my lack of mechanical knowledge!!) until we took off and I realised that it had also had its engine replaced. I thought they were replacing the engines as they repainted them. That was the first train I had been on with a new engine and they seem to move along well, as well as giving the 3000/3100 class a bit of a different sound. There's almost a little bit of the jumbos about the new engines... but never the same!
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Re: [Jul/Aug 2018] SA Transport observations

Postby TA3001 » Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:24 pm

I heard that a Morphetville bus that was on standby at Adelaide Oval was used on a 157X this arvo to cover a breakdown.

No idea which one it was, but it would be 'tolerable' albeit not overwhelmingly interesting seeing a CB60 K230UB on West Lakes Boulevard. But a 700 series NL would be a tad less bland.
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Re: [Jul/Aug 2018] SA Transport observations

Postby busrider » Mon Jul 16, 2018 11:17 pm

Volvo B8RLE #2451 appears to have been withdrawn, its registration has expired and it was sighted by someone today passing through the town of Paringa.
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Re: [Jul/Aug 2018] SA Transport observations

Postby Bus Suggestions » Mon Jul 16, 2018 11:47 pm

Well that's just sad, and at such a young age too...
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Re: [Jul/Aug 2018] SA Transport observations

Postby Skexis » Wed Jul 18, 2018 6:13 pm

Won't be sorry to see it go. Had numerous flaws as far as I'm concerned the most noticeable of which was that the air con was preset and the driver was not able to adjust the temperature manually. As such they were either cold in winter or hot in summer as the thermostat reads from the passenger section of the bus. Given today's technology you'd think the manufacturers would introduce dual zone climate control.
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Re: [Jul/Aug 2018] SA Transport observations

Postby Merc1107 » Thu Jul 19, 2018 11:43 am

Skexis wrote:Had numerous flaws as far as I'm concerned the most noticeable of which was that the air con was preset and the driver was not able to adjust the temperature manually. As such they were either cold in winter or hot in summer as the thermostat reads from the passenger section of the bus. Given today's technology you'd think the manufacturers would introduce dual zone climate control.
Perth's Volvos are at a fixed temperature of about 22º - although the Thoreb does monitor cab and passenger compartment temperatures. Temperature control isn't such a bugbear for me, instead, I'd rather see manual fan control. Its both annoying and distracting having the ThermoKing in our Volvos decide to run in "jet engine" mode sometimes for hours on end.
Then there are the TK-equipped OCs... Might be set for whatever temperature, but prioritise A/C over heating to the point the bus becomes a meat locker. When the analogue (but automatic) dual-zone climate in my 25y/o car works better than a late-model bus, you gotta wonder.
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Re: [Jul/Aug 2018] SA Transport observations

Postby Bus-1809 » Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:20 am

Wow, someone finally dislikes the B8 Chassis! It's almost a miracle!

Anyone know what engines are being fitted to the Pox Boxes, to replace the MB OM444LA V12's? I'm assuming possibly Cummins KTA-19R's as fitted to the Jumbo's? Be interesting to see how they would run at a constant speed to cater for the electric traction.
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Re: [Jul/Aug 2018] SA Transport observations

Postby busrider » Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:25 am

Not Cummins, but Mercedes V8s. I don't believe they run at a constant speed, either...
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Re: [Jul/Aug 2018] SA Transport observations

Postby jibb » Sat Jul 21, 2018 10:16 am

Another new Bustech bus built by Precision Bus at Edinburgh North has been spotted in the spray booth at All Transport Crash repairs at Regency Park.
Still no official announcement from the Government re the results of the tender for new buses for Adelaide Metro.
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Re: [Jul/Aug 2018] SA Transport observations

Postby Skexis » Sat Jul 21, 2018 11:51 am

Given the poor options so far offered I think they should reorder what we already have.
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Re: [Jul/Aug 2018] SA Transport observations

Postby jibb » Sun Jul 22, 2018 11:58 am

Torrens Transit O-Bahn Scania Artic 1101 has returned to service after nearly 5 moths off the road.
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Re: [Jul/Aug 2018] SA Transport observations

Postby jibb » Mon Jul 23, 2018 1:44 pm

The State Transport Minister has just issued a press release advising that tram services along the North Terrace and King William Road extensions will not commence on Sunday 29th July.
Signalling issues were identified during driver training,which are currently being investigated, meaning driver training has been unable to continue.
Experts from Hanning and Kahl which provided the signalling system are being consulted and are flying from Germany to Adelaide to help rectify the issue as soon as possible.
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Re: [Jul/Aug 2018] SA Transport observations

Postby Skexis » Tue Jul 24, 2018 11:16 pm

Colonnades has had new bus shelters installed where the old 733/734 stops were. Pretty useless really as there's not enough roof to cover people from the overhead sun and there's no decent protection from the rain either. Another example of some deskbound clown thinking for him/herself instead of studying the question properly.
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