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STA Observations - July to December 2018

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Re: STA Observations - July to December 2018

Postby Jurassic_Joke » Mon Aug 13, 2018 8:17 am

Frosty wrote:M has taken a few of the ex-Northern Beaches bendies from P.


Also just wanted to say I saw a couple of those running on M40 yesterday
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Re: STA Observations - July to December 2018

Postby Fleet Lists » Mon Aug 13, 2018 8:24 am

More buses were transferred after the M20 decision.
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Re: STA Observations - July to December 2018

Postby Ikarbus » Tue Aug 14, 2018 4:55 pm

Not sure if this counts as an "observation", but I saw a MAN DD in B-Line livery outbound on Alison Rd yesterday morning. I wasn't able to catch the desto/display.

I'm usually at work on Alison Rd in the morning but this is the first time I've seen a DD. Are they scheduled to do 891's?
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Re: STA Observations - July to December 2018

Postby boronia » Tue Aug 14, 2018 8:25 pm

B line or TfNSW livery?
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Re: STA Observations - July to December 2018

Postby Ikarbus » Wed Aug 15, 2018 7:45 am

boronia wrote:B line or TfNSW livery?


B-Line, and original post amended, cheers
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Re: STA Observations - July to December 2018

Postby Swift » Wed Aug 15, 2018 3:36 pm

Ikarbus wrote:Not sure if this counts as an "observation", but I saw a MAN DD in B-Line livery outbound on Alison Rd yesterday morning. I wasn't able to catch the desto/display.

I'm usually at work on Alison Rd in the morning but this is the first time I've seen a DD. Are they scheduled to do 891's?

The transport Minster announced extension of deckers serving more routes, so I think they were testing it for this area.
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Re: STA Observations - July to December 2018

Postby J_Busworth » Wed Aug 15, 2018 4:09 pm

Swift wrote:
Ikarbus wrote:Not sure if this counts as an "observation", but I saw a MAN DD in B-Line livery outbound on Alison Rd yesterday morning. I wasn't able to catch the desto/display.

I'm usually at work on Alison Rd in the morning but this is the first time I've seen a DD. Are they scheduled to do 891's?

The transport Minster announced extension of deckers serving more routes, so I think they were testing it for this area.


I think the Deckers aren’t a bad idea for a route like the 891, with one pick up/set down location. I don’t know if they would be the best for regular route services though.
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Re: STA Observations - July to December 2018

Postby Swift » Wed Aug 15, 2018 4:19 pm

Spot on Busworth. I agree entirely.
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Re: STA Observations - July to December 2018

Postby boronia » Wed Aug 15, 2018 6:28 pm

The UNSW services are peaky, so mostly need buses that can be utilised elsewhere at other times.

And it is intended that the trams will carry most of the load from next year.
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Re: STA Observations - July to December 2018

Postby Fleet Lists » Wed Aug 15, 2018 6:45 pm

Yes the UNi bus routes are scheduled to be abolished when light rail comes along.
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Re: STA Observations - July to December 2018

Postby Daniel » Wed Aug 15, 2018 7:50 pm

I doubt that will happen entirely.
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Re: STA Observations - July to December 2018

Postby boronia » Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:52 pm

Ikarbus wrote:Not sure if this counts as an "observation", but I saw a MAN DD in B-Line livery outbound on Alison Rd yesterday morning. I wasn't able to catch the desto/display.

I'm usually at work on Alison Rd in the morning but this is the first time I've seen a DD. Are they scheduled to do 891's?

Maybe driver training, teaching them how to avoid trees?
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Re: STA Observations - July to December 2018

Postby boeing » Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:59 pm

Ikarbus wrote:Not sure if this counts as an "observation", but I saw a MAN DD in B-Line livery outbound on Alison Rd yesterday morning. I wasn't able to catch the desto/display.

I'm usually at work on Alison Rd in the morning but this is the first time I've seen a DD. Are they scheduled to do 891's?

There was a B-line DD in the Randwick depot on Monday, not sure why.
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Re: STA Observations - July to December 2018

Postby Frosty » Wed Aug 15, 2018 10:19 pm

boronia wrote:
Ikarbus wrote:Not sure if this counts as an "observation", but I saw a MAN DD in B-Line livery outbound on Alison Rd yesterday morning. I wasn't able to catch the desto/display.

I'm usually at work on Alison Rd in the morning but this is the first time I've seen a DD. Are they scheduled to do 891's?

Maybe driver training, teaching them how to avoid trees?


Don't worry most along the light rail route have been cut remember all the protests. Though power poles & narrow lanes are an issue. I can't think of Randwick depot route that is suitable for double deckers that aren't uni routes the 400 maybe 370 is fairly long but has it's issues.
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Re: STA Observations - July to December 2018

Postby Jurassic_Joke » Thu Aug 16, 2018 1:53 pm

Only just noticed all the modern Scania buses have a distinct stop button sound - it’s a low pitched beep, very similar to the sound a seatbelt sign makes.

I think it’s really nice and neutral.
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Re: STA Observations - July to December 2018

Postby Richard290 » Thu Aug 16, 2018 10:07 pm

Caught Y’s 2512 on a Parramatta bound M54 service from Macquarie Centre today. It was still sporting a green Travelten ticket machine attached to the gate of the driver’s cabin.
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Re: STA Observations - July to December 2018

Postby Frosty » Fri Aug 17, 2018 2:35 pm

Noticed now according to the fleet lists W has 12.5m Euro 5 Volvo B12BLEs. This type of bus is now at every single STA depot.
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Re: STA Observations - July to December 2018

Postby Swift » Fri Aug 17, 2018 4:20 pm

Frosty wrote:Noticed now according to the fleet lists W has 12.5m Euro 5 Volvo B12BLEs. This type of bus is now at every single STA depot.

Wow, first Port Botany, now this. They really get passed around. The question is ZF or Voith? The ZF editions would make light work off W's more hilly runs. The Voith versions not so much, though still adequate.
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Re: STA Observations - July to December 2018

Postby Andy » Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:11 am

Swift wrote:
Frosty wrote:Noticed now according to the fleet lists W has 12.5m Euro 5 Volvo B12BLEs. This type of bus is now at every single STA depot.

Wow, first Port Botany, now this. They really get passed around. The question is ZF or Voith? The ZF editions would make light work off W's more hilly runs. The Voith versions not so much, though still adequate.

ZF variants, spotted 4924 on 400 at Campsie around arvo today. Minor throwback when they used to be based at Burwood depot :)
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Re: STA Observations - July to December 2018

Postby pylelo » Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:16 am

Ever since the last timetable change for the 288, I've noticed the scheduling of Y's Volvo B12BLEA during the night on weeknights in tandem with the L113TRB's. Great addition to ensure no one is getting left behind at Wynyard on the odd occasion that it did happen.
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Re: STA Observations - July to December 2018

Postby Ray » Sat Aug 18, 2018 9:30 am

Reckon it might be more efficient to run all bendies out of Ryde in that region? So Ryde does all the high capacity stuff and M is all rigids? Just for ease of maintenance etc.
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Re: STA Observations - July to December 2018

Postby idontknow556 » Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:47 pm

I've looked on the Fleetlists and noticed that some Mercedes 0405NHs are being re-activated. One of them is 1131 and I forgot the number of the the other one
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Re: STA Observations - July to December 2018

Postby Fleet Lists » Sat Aug 18, 2018 3:02 pm

I suspect that would have been a correction rather that a withdrawal and then a re-activation.
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Re: STA Observations - July to December 2018

Postby idontknow556 » Sun Aug 19, 2018 9:14 am

I've just looked at Anytrip and noticed a Scania L113CRB operating on route 400 which is unusual as Waverley don't operate these vehicles on a Sunday. Unless there's a mistake and it is a Scania L113CRL or L113TRB
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Re: STA Observations - July to December 2018

Postby idontknow556 » Sun Aug 19, 2018 11:35 am

3505 is operating on 400 today which is a very rare sight. As I said before Scania L113CRBs don't normally operate on Sundays
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