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jonwil wrote:The latest version of the Metro seems to solve all the problems.
tonyp wrote:So it's called a metro (which conventionally means a rapid transit train) and yet the vehicles are described as "buses" by the Lord Mayor and they are "flexible" which presumably means you can miss the "vehicle" because it decided to go down another street on that day instead of past your usual stop. Sounds wonderful. You have such people responsible for your transit?
jonwil wrote:I suspect "flexible" in this case means that it bends (as opposed to being rigid) rather than "flexible" in its route.
1of55 wrote:The Brisbane Busway system works very well, has a good safety record and the last thing Brisbane needs is the return of street railways (Trams) cluttering up the streets and the massive upheaval and disruption of years of construction like we had on the Gold Coast. A minor traffic incident and the whole system comes to a halt. The recent Adele concert at the Gabba proved the flexibility of Buses over trains and fixed route trams.
1of55 wrote:Bus routes are flexible because they don't run on rails set in concrete. Bus routes had to be rerouted many times while the Gold Coast lightrail was being constructed. The advantage of the Brisbane bus ways is that the suburbs are served by local buses and travel speedily along the busway ( upto 90klm) avoiding the queues of cars on the expressway until they get to South Brisbane that is, where they meet cars traveling into the City, looking for somewhere to park. Logan City Bus service route 555 is a good example of a route which makes full use of the Busway and serves Logan City without the high cost of laying expensive tram tracks.
1of55 wrote:So where is it proven that separate entrance and exit doors don’t work? Transport for London is well ahead on passengers carried over other transport systems. Hong Kong and Singapore also board at the front and very fast. Multiple entrances on buses would provide a situation like the trains where people have open access to platforms and fare evasion is rife.
60,000 people went to each Adele concert and according to ABC radio this morning those interviewed were satisfied with travel times.
simonl wrote:Re: Adele, the 60k were moved in 90 minutes. So room for improvement.
Doubtless they persisted with the stupid idea that the Carindale services used the outbound platform at the busway station and single door boarding.
simonl wrote:The bulk would have used PT but some would have come by car.
1whoknows wrote:Tram foamers who want to close the whole busway system down for a year or so whilst its converted to rail.....because that has worked sooooo well in Sydney hasn't it.
simonl wrote:Wow. For I think the first time ever, I agree with 1whoknows. I don't know how anyone can argue that the most suitable mode for the CSELR was a tram. I suppose technically the CSELR hasn't opened yet so we don't know how it will turn out but still.
BTW, BCC has 1.45 people/hectare
Gold Coast, 4.44 people/hectare
The owners of four properties in Brisbane south have willingly handed over their land to the council so it can build a depot for the $944 million Brisbane Metro project.
On Tuesday, Brisbane City Council approved the resumption of four private properties on School Road at Rochedale.
The council first issued the notices to resume to the owners on June 29, 2018, and no objections were received from the property owners.
Opposition leader Peter Cumming criticised the available information on the resumptions, saying there was very little detail.
“I feel there could have been much more information given,” he said.
Public and Active Transport chairman Adrian Schrinner said the council would now make a formal application to the state government to finalise the property acquisition.
“Sadly I can’t report that there has been any progress on the state government land that we need,” he said.
“But I hold hope that we will get there before too long.”
The state government owns a 4.5 hectare block of land at Rochedale needed for the depot as well as a 1600 square metre lot on Grey Street at South Brisbane needed to build the underground Cultural Centre station.
Cr Schrinner said the metro had progressed in other areas as well, with five different consortia putting in a proposal for the major infrastructure package, which would include the $315 million underground station at the Cultural Centre and a tunnel beneath Adelaide Street in Brisbane CBD.
Cr Schrinner said people would be very familiar with a lot of these companies.
“The key construction firms that we would expect to be putting in proposals on this major project have shown a great level of interest and based,” he said.
All of the submissions will now progress to the next stage, the request for proposal stage.
Cr Schrinner said once the formal tender process started h anticipated to shortlist during that process and then progress from there.
“The construction industry, the people who will partner with us to deliver this project are really showing us the highest level of interest so that’s a great outcome,” he said.
Consortia bidding to build Brisbane Metro:
Brisbane Move Consortium, comprising Acciona Construction Australia Pty Ltd and Arup Australia Projects Pty Ltd;
Lendlease consortium comprising, Lendlease Engineering Pty Ltd and WSP Australia Pty Ltd;
MetroConnect consortium, comprising Laing O’Rourke Australia Construction Pty Ltd, AECOM Australia Pty Ltd and Aurecon Australasia Pty Ltd;
METRO4BNE consortium, comprising CPB Contractors Pty Ltd, Seymour Whyte Constructions Pty Ltd, Vinci Construction Grand Projets SAS and SMEC Australia Pty Ltd; and
TransForm BNE consortium, comprising McConnell Dowell Constructors Pty Ltd, John Holland Pty Ltd and GHD Pty Ltd.
The $944 million Brisbane Metro will run over 21 kilometres with two new high-frequency, high-capacity lines, linking Eight Mile Plains to Roma Street and Royal Brisbane and Women's Hospital to the University of Queensland Lakes and all busway stations in between.
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