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Swift wrote:Where's the engine mounted on the Agora -thingies and have you managed to get a ride on Sydney's sole Scania N310 bendy yet?
tonyp wrote:I forgot about the 18 Irisbus Agoraline in Canberra - 5th from the top in this presentation:
https://www.action.act.gov.au/About_ACTION/our_fleet
(I wish every operator would have a presentation with this level of detail!)
ZIB-585 wrote:2. while there are no steps in the aisle, the rear seats are still raised (denoted by the shading on the diagram)
tonyp wrote:There is a review of the Brisbane Citaro in "Australian Bus" magazine, Sept/Oct 2016 now out. The reviewer concludes that it's the best citybus he's seen in Australia, superior to anything from the local builders.
This is perfectly understandable but I still think MB (nor the Germans generally, including MAN) don't do the best job on seating or the gangway compared to their European rivals such as Iveco, Solaris and SOR. The gangway in the back half of the Citaro is a narrow trench compared to the more tram-like broad floor of its European rivals. In view of these issues I don't understand why the MB is so popular on the market.
But in terms of Australia, it's a blessing to see at least one of these types of citybuses on display here. The breakthrough that still has to come in terms of functionality is provision for a third door behind the rear axle.
racingnathan wrote:The drivers that have driven this bus don't like it and it fills up way to quick, it spends most of its time in the depot these days.
1of55 wrote:Interesting that BT drivers get to chose what buses to drive. I would have thought each shift would be allocated a particular fleet number. Must be a logistical nightmare keeping track of a large bus fleet- kilometres travelled, when servicing is due and cleaning and fuelling requirements. Allocating a bus to a known route would simplify this. Also BT arrange their depots with long ranks of buses, what happens if a driver fancies one at the back or a bus hemmed in by others?
Swift wrote:racingnathan wrote:The drivers that have driven this bus don't like it and it fills up way to quick, it spends most of its time in the depot these days.
I can imagine a nickname for this bus by now, and it involves the first syllable rhyming with a swear word for excrement.
Sydney_Buses_CB60 wrote:P.S: The only major problem I can think of that may greatly affect this wonderful Bus is the fact that they aren't locally made... but, another positive is that the Citaro is made completely by Mercedes Benz, so the operator won't need a warranty from the chassis manufacturer (E.g, Volvo, Scania, MAN, Mercedes, etc.) and the body manufacturer. (E.g, Custom Coaches, Volgren, Bustech, NCBC, etc.)
Swift wrote:So now that we know that any regular length bus put on a 14.5m route is likely to fill up too quickly, is there any other reason on offer why drivers would hate it?
Sounds like someone is trying to discredit the bus for being fully shipped here and not produced by a beloved local body builder.
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