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Re: Bustech v CB 80

Postby tonyp » Thu May 17, 2018 6:19 am

Megumi wrote:So, do you think we have any chance to introduce some German buses like Merceds-Benz Citaro to Australia?

I think that Mercedes is making feelers, with that Citaro demonstrator in Brisbane and preparing a design for Canberra. However, it stil won't get a low-floor back door behind the rear axle unless the drive-train at the back is switched over from the near side (which is the offside in LHD Europe) to the offside. With the current absence of demand for a bus with a back door behind the rear axle in the international RHD market, it wouldn't be an economic proposition for them.

MAN is a German bus that's already here, but nobody has yet ordered the low-floor chassis version for a single-decker bus. Only Scania and Iveco have secured any such local orders. But once again, their drive-trains don't allow for a door behind the rear axle because they're configured for LHD.

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It looks like Volvo might also be making feelers on the RHD market if this image on Latrobe Valley Bus line's website is anything to go by:

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Volgren is currently building some of these hybrids for Latrobe Valley but I don't know what their design format is yet. Contrary to its dominance in Australia (but with low-entry buses only), Volvo is a small player in the fully low-floor bus market in Europe.
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Re: Bustech v CB 80

Postby boronia » Thu May 17, 2018 11:32 am

That image is a flipped LHD photo, so don't get too enthusiastic about that rear door !!
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Re: Bustech v CB 80

Postby tonyp » Thu May 17, 2018 11:55 am

boronia wrote:That image is a flipped LHD photo, so don't get too enthusiastic about that rear door !!

I guess your better-trained eye would have detected some detail like the Volvo logo being the wrong way around! :lol:

Nevertheless Volvo does supply such chassis in Europe for LHD. The first of these buses is currently in an early stage of construction at Volgren, so we're yet to see what emerges. Being Latrobe Valley it'll probably be single door, but the floor will be the interesting point.
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Re: Bustech v CB 80

Postby Swift » Thu May 17, 2018 2:17 pm

It's an ugly version of the Citaro, whichever way you flip it.
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Re: Bustech v CB 80

Postby Megumi » Fri May 18, 2018 12:34 am

tonyp wrote:
Megumi wrote:So, do you think we have any chance to introduce some German buses like Merceds-Benz Citaro to Australia?

I think that Mercedes is making feelers, with that Citaro demonstrator in Brisbane and preparing a design for Canberra. However, it stil won't get a low-floor back door behind the rear axle unless the drive-train at the back is switched over from the near side (which is the offside in LHD Europe) to the offside. With the current absence of demand for a bus with a back door behind the rear axle in the international RHD market, it wouldn't be an economic proposition for them.

MAN is a German bus that's already here, but nobody has yet ordered the low-floor chassis version for a single-decker bus. Only Scania and Iveco have secured any such local orders. But once again, their drive-trains don't allow for a door behind the rear axle because they're configured for LHD.

Edit:
It looks like Volvo might also be making feelers on the RHD market if this image on Latrobe Valley Bus line's website is anything to go by:

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Volgren is currently building some of these hybrids for Latrobe Valley but I don't know what their design format is yet. Contrary to its dominance in Australia (but with low-entry buses only), Volvo is a small player in the fully low-floor bus market in Europe.


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