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Re: Newcastle light rail, renewal & integrated transport

Postby mandonov » Wed Oct 24, 2018 7:30 pm

Also I don't know if any of my previous pics have clearly shown, but there's a switch approximately at Wolfe Street so that Queens Wharf can be an intermediate terminus.
This would primarily be due to the Newcastle 500 Supercars event which uses Watt Street as part of the course, thus cutting off access to Newcastle Beach stop.
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Re: Newcastle light rail, renewal & integrated transport

Postby Fleet Lists » Thu Nov 01, 2018 7:49 am

mandonov wrote:
Fleet Lists wrote:Note the "Newcastle Beach" on the sign. Has there been any confirmation that Pacific Fair will now be called Newcastle Beach?

And similarly about Market Street being renamed Queens Wharf?

Link to the Geographical Names Board proposal (pdf): http://www.gnb.nsw.gov.au/__data/assets ... _Stops.pdf

The proposed names are:
• Newcastle Interchange Light Rail Stop located within the Newcastle Interchange
precinct. It is on the corner of Stewart Avenue and Beresford Street.
• Honeysuckle Light Rail Stop located adjacent to Kuwumi Place, between Steel
Street and Worth Place.
• Civic Light Rail Stop located on Hunter Street between Auckland Street and
Merewether Street.
• Crown Street Light Rail Stop located on Hunter Street near the intersection of
Crown Street.
• Queens Wharf Light Rail Stop located on Scott Street near the intersection with
Market Street.
• Newcastle Beach Light Rail Stop located on Scott Street near the intersection with
Pacific Street.

I assume the proposals were accepted.

The October newsletter still makes no mention as to whether these names have been confirmed. https://revitalisingnewcastle.nsw.gov.a ... widget-452
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Re: Newcastle light rail, renewal & integrated transport

Postby Fleet Lists » Thu Nov 01, 2018 7:57 am

Newcastle Beach is still shown as proposed http://www.gnb.nsw.gov.au/place_naming/ ... MnckFxxOIt

but Queens Wharf is shown as discontinued http://www.gnb.nsw.gov.au/place_naming/ ... ujjtZxKmJP
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Re: Newcastle light rail, renewal & integrated transport

Postby Fleet Lists » Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:08 am

The proposal a was in the 6 July gazette https://www.gazette.legislation.nsw.gov ... 018-68.pdf but nothing more that I can find
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Re: Newcastle light rail, renewal & integrated transport

Postby mandonov » Thu Nov 01, 2018 1:00 pm

I guess we'll find out once the signage is installed.
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Re: Newcastle light rail, renewal & integrated transport

Postby moa999 » Thu Nov 01, 2018 11:41 pm

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Re: Newcastle light rail, renewal & integrated transport

Postby Stu » Sun Nov 11, 2018 12:05 am

I'm amazed at how fast the Newcastle tram line has progressed in such a short time, meanwhile in Sydney with the CSELR...

The CSELR would be more complex compared to Newcastle plus other issues such as the NSW govt vs Acciona in court and the deliberate go slow on construction over the past 12 months. Even before the deliberate construction go slow, work was already very slow as after the first 12 months, George St looked looked more like a storage facility rather than a construction site, no major excavation work was evident regarding the work to be done on the underground utilities.
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Re: Newcastle light rail, renewal & integrated transport

Postby In Transit » Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:45 pm

Stu wrote:I'm amazed at how fast the Newcastle tram line has progressed in such a short time, meanwhile in Sydney with the CSELR...

The CSELR would be more complex compared to Newcastle plus other issues such as the NSW govt vs Acciona in court and the deliberate go slow on construction over the past 12 months. Even before the deliberate construction go slow, work was already very slow as after the first 12 months, George St looked looked more like a storage facility rather than a construction site, no major excavation work was evident regarding the work to be done on the underground utilities.


Note, “alleged” go slow. Whilst progress has been glacial, it has been stated that waiting for agreements with utility owners and other planning activities have caused delays which have prevented work proceeding. Unless you’ve got rock solid inside information, this is the kind of statement that gets repeated as fact so often it becomes accepted as fact...
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Re: Newcastle light rail, renewal & integrated transport

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Re: Newcastle light rail, renewal & integrated transport

Postby tonyp » Mon Nov 19, 2018 10:07 am

Newcastle revitalisation makes it to Spanish comedy circuit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkWQYgAyR9g

The only joke he left out is that the slower trams are Spanish. Still, it's a good conceptualisation of town planing in NSW.
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Re: Newcastle light rail, renewal & integrated transport

Postby tonyp » Tue Nov 20, 2018 6:24 am

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Re: Newcastle light rail, renewal & integrated transport

Postby mandonov » Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:35 am

tonyp wrote:Newcastle revitalisation makes it to Spanish comedy circuit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkWQYgAyR9g

The only joke he left out is that the slower trams are Spanish. Still, it's a good conceptualisation of town planing in NSW.

Just for clarity, he's not actually a transport planner. It's just a meme from years ago that people put their own subtitles to.

Hilarious anyway.
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Re: Newcastle light rail, renewal & integrated transport

Postby tonyp » Tue Nov 20, 2018 12:47 pm

mandonov wrote:Just for clarity, he's not actually a transport planner. It's just a meme from years ago that people put their own subtitles to.

Hilarious anyway.

I think it's the laugh more than anything. Some of his points can be counter-argued but there are some core truths around the ad hoc political/planning process with its loaded outcomes. Some of it is hilarious like the disappearance of the rail connection between the university campuses ("wave the bus, wave the bus!" :lol: ).
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Re: Newcastle light rail, renewal & integrated transport

Postby rogf24 » Tue Nov 20, 2018 12:49 pm

Warabrook is such a far walk from the campus though.
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Re: Newcastle light rail, renewal & integrated transport

Postby tonyp » Tue Nov 20, 2018 1:14 pm

rogf24 wrote:Warabrook is such a far walk from the campus though.

I know, but somebody has done a very clever job script-writing this. Is there any Spanish speaker here who can assess what he is really saying?
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Re: Newcastle light rail, renewal & integrated transport

Postby Qantas94Heavy » Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:07 pm

tonyp wrote:I know, but somebody has done a very clever job script-writing this. Is there any Spanish speaker here who can assess what he is really saying?


If you'd like, here's a more 'proper' copy of it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgzdb0txR_c
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Re: Newcastle light rail, renewal & integrated transport

Postby boronia » Wed Nov 21, 2018 10:44 am

The Newcastle version is better than the original.
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Re: Newcastle light rail, renewal & integrated transport

Postby Campbelltown busboy » Wed Nov 21, 2018 6:28 pm

Supercars has cover the tram tracks crossing Walt street at Scott street for this weekends Newcastle 500 car race as Walt street is apart of the routed corse for the event here’s the full article from the Supercars website
https://www.supercars.com/news/champion ... 02763368=1
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Re: Newcastle light rail, renewal & integrated transport

Postby mandonov » Thu Nov 22, 2018 7:00 am

One of Newcastle's two ferries has returned from refurbishment in Port Macquarie: https://www.theherald.com.au/story/5769821/ferry-back-on-the-waves-for-supercars-with-surfboard-racks-to-boot/?cs=7573

Transport Newcastle’s director of corporate affairs, Andrew Fletcher, said the ferry had been refreshed after more than 30 years of service, and 400,000 trips on the harbour.

“Floors, ceilings, windows and lighting have been replaced in the face lift, the bike racks have been improved and new surfboard racks added,” Mr Fletcher said.

“The new seating and indoor colour palette gives the ferry a much more modern look and the changes to the interior have opened up much more space for passengers.”

The Hunter will carry spectators to the Supercars Newcastle 500 over the coming weekend. More than 3500 people used the park and ride ferry service from Stockton on the first day of the races last year.

New features:
  • Four on-board wheelchair spaces
  • Four surfboard racks to match the light rail vehicles
  • Improved spaces for bikes
  • Outdoor seating on the back deck
  • New internal seating


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Re: Newcastle light rail, renewal & integrated transport

Postby Daniel » Thu Nov 22, 2018 7:24 am

Hey what happened to the stretcher, first aid stickers and emergency exit signs?
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Re: Newcastle light rail, renewal & integrated transport

Postby tonyp » Thu Nov 22, 2018 7:53 am

Daniel wrote:Hey what happened to the stretcher, first aid stickers and emergency exit signs?

They were removed together with the lifeboats to save space. British Board of Trade Regs 1912. :wink:
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Re: Newcastle light rail, renewal & integrated transport

Postby mandonov » Thu Nov 22, 2018 8:01 am

Daniel wrote:Hey what happened to the stretcher, first aid stickers and emergency exit signs?

I'd imagine the stretcher is stowed elsewhere now, as judging by the rather dramatic change to the overall internal fitout there must be some other relocated services too. The stickers are probably applied post-delivery, so should be all up soon.
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Re: Newcastle light rail, renewal & integrated transport

Postby tonyp » Fri Nov 23, 2018 6:23 am

It's on again, chapter 2:

https://www.theherald.com.au/story/5773 ... er-street/

Newcastle drivers warming up for when the tram starts running.

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Re: Newcastle light rail, renewal & integrated transport

Postby kypros1992 » Fri Nov 23, 2018 8:31 am

Stop names have been assigned last week by GNB
Civic, Crown St, Honeysuckle, Newcastle Beach (formerly Pacific Park), Newcastle Int and Queens Wharf (formerly Market St)
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Re: Newcastle light rail, renewal & integrated transport

Postby moa999 » Fri Nov 23, 2018 1:14 pm

Campbelltown busboy wrote:Supercars has cover the tram tracks crossing Walt street at Scott street


Looked like a pretty light covering from what I could see
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