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Light rail gets the green light: stage 1 UNSW to CBD

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Re: Light rail gets the green light: stage 1 UNSW to CBD

Postby matthewg » Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:29 pm

Ikarbus wrote:
This is effectively the last IWLR shut down available to utilise to complete the civil works at this intersection, so third time lucky or not, this is the last chance.


It will require yet another shutdown - as there has been no attempt to put the overhead crossings required and the track is supposed to handed back in 3 days - the shutdown for the overhead shouldn't need to be so long, but given the speed other works have been undertaken, this is a total shutdown of the intersection for rail and road for at least 7 days. With the curves as well it's a reasonably complex bit of knitting to install.
What's the bet the civil guys take the opportunity to dig something else up there when the overhead crew are working?

A Melbourne crew could do this intersection in 2 days with time to spare, but they do trams, not light rail so we can't ask them for advice.
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Re: Light rail gets the green light: stage 1 UNSW to CBD

Postby hornetfig » Fri Jan 11, 2019 4:14 pm

Ikarbus wrote:1. The new traffic lights have been commissioned at the Randwick depot/Alison Rd/Randwick racecourse intersection.


Have they? They ain't on...
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Re: Light rail gets the green light: stage 1 UNSW to CBD

Postby tonyp » Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:19 pm

matthewg wrote:
A Melbourne crew could do this intersection in 2 days with time to spare, but they do trams, not light rail so we can't ask them for advice.

Of course Sydney is doing trams too, they just don't want to admit it.
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Re: Light rail gets the green light: stage 1 UNSW to CBD

Postby boronia » Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:35 pm

hornetfig wrote:
Ikarbus wrote:1. The new traffic lights have been commissioned at the Randwick depot/Alison Rd/Randwick racecourse intersection.


Have they? They ain't on...

They might leave them turned them off when they are not needed. More like a level crossing than an intersection.
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Re: Light rail gets the green light: stage 1 UNSW to CBD

Postby hornetfig » Sat Jan 12, 2019 4:15 pm

boronia wrote:They might leave them turned them off when they are not needed. More like a level crossing than an intersection.


Nah, that intersection is also combined with a vehicular entry to the racecourse and a fair number of pedestrian crossings (tram running lines, across Alison Rd, northern side of Alison Rd across each tramway fork, southern side of Alison Rd across the racecourse entry and tramway depot entrance). It'll be on all the time.

Photo of some of the pedestrian crossings and the racecourse entry. Tramway depot entry is just out of frame at right. All the one intersection.
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They have had a "no green" roundabout type light setup for the exit of the bus roadway onto Alison Rd eastbound. I wonder if that will persist in the final arrangement??
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Re: Light rail gets the green light: stage 1 UNSW to CBD

Postby moa999 » Sat Jan 12, 2019 6:00 pm

Big crane at the South Dowling Entrance to the tunnel today
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Re: Light rail gets the green light: stage 1 UNSW to CBD

Postby hornetfig » Sun Jan 13, 2019 4:52 pm

^ They're removing the Parkham St pedestrian bridge
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Re: Light rail gets the green light: stage 1 UNSW to CBD

Postby STMPainter2018 » Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:12 am

tonyp wrote:
matthewg wrote:
A Melbourne crew could do this intersection in 2 days with time to spare, but they do trams, not light rail so we can't ask them for advice.

Of course Sydney is doing trams too, they just don't want to admit it.


Let's be real; the only reason Sydney didn't ask Melbourne for advice is because of ego. Absolute, sheer, EGO! It's that stupid Sydney-Melbourne rivalry crap that's been going on since the days of colonialism and it's come at a cost to co-operation between the two cities.

But having said that, I don't understand why we're still dwelling on what some idiot bureaucrat said at a conference a few years ago. As far as I'm concerned, there at least has been some attempt by the CSELR's publicity tram to make up for their mistakes and refer to them as trams. Not to mention this little report that TonyP pointed out last month: https://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/documents/bu ... 17-002.pdf. Quite frankly, I say we let bygones be bygones and wait for the line to open (and hope somebody got fired for that blunder). :wink:

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Re: Light rail gets the green light: stage 1 UNSW to CBD

Postby Swift » Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:18 am

NSW "we're the best in the world at doing things" fallacy they persistently peddle to the public and themselves. They need to stop jerking their gherkin or they'll go completely blind!!
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Re: Light rail gets the green light: stage 1 UNSW to CBD

Postby moa999 » Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:21 am

hornetfig wrote:^ They're removing the Parkham St pedestrian bridge
That would explain its position.
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Re: Light rail gets the green light: stage 1 UNSW to CBD

Postby Ikarbus » Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:23 pm

hornetfig wrote:
Ikarbus wrote:1. The new traffic lights have been commissioned at the Randwick depot/Alison Rd/Randwick racecourse intersection.


Have they? They ain't on...


There is a power supply issue to the site, they are meant to be on 24/7 :oops:

hornetfig wrote:^ They're removing the Parkham St pedestrian bridge


Correct. And I believe the same crane will be used to install the new pedestrian bridge over Anzac Pde in February.
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Re: Light rail gets the green light: stage 1 UNSW to CBD

Postby hornetfig » Tue Jan 15, 2019 4:52 pm

Ikarbus wrote:There is a power supply issue to the site, they are meant to be on 24/7 :oops:


Fixed today. Out of sync with Doncaster Ave (where the induction coils have been offline since before Christmas hence ghost phases for added pain); I guess with a couple of weeks until school goes back and the traffic gets really bad though.
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Re: Light rail gets the green light: stage 1 UNSW to CBD

Postby Frosty » Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:19 pm

^ That would explain why the right turn BUS signal from Allison Rd at Doncaster Avenue & Busway has been having phases even when the busway is closed most of the time.
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Re: Light rail gets the green light: stage 1 UNSW to CBD

Postby boronia » Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:33 pm

It was explained to me a few years back that the computers could detect if a sensor hadn't been activated for a certain period of time, and it would assume a possible fault and activate the phase just in case. Similarly, if there is a sensor circuit fault, the computer will just run the phase regardless.
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