Sydney Metro - Tallawong to Bankstown

[swtt]

There is a proposal for the current route 320 to be modified into a rapid route and operate between Mascot and North Sydney.

TfNSW.
Have Your Say on the On-street Transit Bus and Light Rail Network.

https://hdp-au-prod-app-nsw-haveyoursa ... _DIGI2.pdf

Sadly that map is fantasy and indicative at best but not necessarily practical.

Rhodes - SOP - Homebush - Wiley Park - Hurstville? It'll become so circuitous around Homebush (Station?). I don't think it'll be able to even fit under the existing underpass, nor will it be able to cross the Bridge Road overpass.

Even the then-m41, now 410 route has been "proposed" to be a rapid route, with 10 min all day frequencies, shortly since its introduction in late 2010. Next year will be its 15th year, and apart from extending the span of operating hours to midnight between Burwood <-> Marsfield, there's been no frequency upgrade at any point in time. It probably represents the budgetary constraints more than lack of willpower.

[Bus 400]

I might have been mistaken, but I was just passing through Central Walk & saw something new posters being installed around Platforms 26/27. With the opening date of 5th May.

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[moa999]

Lol. A delay until 2025 might have been more believable this morning.

[Randomness]

Yes, especially considering the date today.

[Glen]

Aren't some of the Hills district express services to the City likely to be cut back?

Hopefully not the ones that carry standing loads like the 610X, much of which they pick up (inbound) well south of Castle Hill.

[tonyp]

Hopefully not the ones that carry standing loads like the 610X, much of which they pick up (inbound) well south of Castle Hill.

Presumably these are justified because their catchment is through corridors not covered by the metro. You wouldn't catch it from Castle Hill to the city because it's quicker by metro.

[swtt]

Hopefully not the ones that carry standing loads like the 610X, much of which they pick up (inbound) well south of Castle Hill.

Presumably these are justified because their catchment is through corridors not covered by the metro. You wouldn't catch it from Castle Hill to the city because it's quicker by metro.

Or would there be a push to cut the 610X back and instead, and instead have more Route 600 services run from Baulkham Hills to Castle Hill, and then interchange for metro?

The rest of the M2 stops can simply be captured by an increase in services on existing routes, e.g. 607X (which is still needed)?

[Swift]

Now now we all know Sydney residents break out if they have to change modes.

[Glen]

Or would there be a push to cut the 610X back and instead, and instead have more Route 600 services run from Baulkham Hills to Castle Hill, and then interchange for metro?

Good luck with that.

[Glen]

You wouldn't catch it from Castle Hill to the city because it's quicker by metro.

Whilst I don't doubt people close to Castle Hill Station will take the Metro, the bus is not as slow as you may think.

The off peak 610X running time from Castle Hill Station to Wynyard is 34 minutes.

From Baulkham Hills Shops it is 29 minutes.

[Swift]

The bus only lane on the M2 parking lot is a real asset that probably isn't appreciated and it's far more direct on the map than the Metro.

[tonyp]

You wouldn't catch it from Castle Hill to the city because it's quicker by metro.

Whilst I don't doubt people close to Castle Hill Station will take the Metro, the bus is not as slow as you may think.

The off peak 610X running time from Castle Hill Station to Wynyard is 34 minutes.

From Baulkham Hills Shops it is 29 minutes.

But isn't it about 50 minutes in peak? Anyway all I'm saying is the route is legit for people along it and it has to start somewhere and where better than a metro station?

[Bovways]

The bus only lane on the M2 parking lot is a real asset that probably isn't appreciated and it's far more direct on the map than the Metro.

The Bus Lane is only of use outbound in the PM, when the traffic builds back from Pennant Hills Road.. In the AM the traffic build up is from the M7 through to Windsor Road, on the section with the terrible side of road bus stops before you get to the Bus Lane, then is usually clear until the City side of Lane Cove Road or Delhi Road, far past where the bus lane ends. So in the morning it's the section with the Bus Lane is the section where the traffic flows!

[Linto63]

There will be some curtailment / withdrawal of CDC services, mainly peak hour express services, the 607X and 610X will be retained. CDC will see only a slight reduction in the overall number of buses it operates in region 4.

[Swift]

The bus only lane on the M2 parking lot is a real asset that probably isn't appreciated and it's far more direct on the map than the Metro.

The Bus Lane is only of use outbound in the PM, when the traffic builds back from Pennant Hills Road.. In the AM the traffic build up is from the M7 through to Windsor Road, on the section with the terrible side of road bus stops before you get to the Bus Lane, then is usually clear until the City side of Lane Cove Road or Delhi Road, far past where the bus lane ends. So in the morning it's the section with the Bus Lane is the section where the traffic flows!

Okay. At least it helps them get home on time. Having these bus services also offers an alternative should the metro have a glitch a well as cover other catchments.

[Engineering]

From this week's railsafe bulletin

https://railsafe.org.au/__data/assets/p ... 2024.2.pdf

CHATSWOOD (NORTH) – SYDENHAM METRO TRIAL RUNNING

THIS ARTICLE PUBLISHED IN WN 18 IS POSTPONED UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE.
Commencing at 0100 hours on Monday, 29 April 2024, and continuing until 0600 hours on Sunday 30 June 2024, the following work will be carried out:
• Trial Running – all modes including Protected Manual/Unattended mode
• Trial Running – between Tallawong and Sydenham including Sydney Metro Trains Facility (Sydenham)

[iamthouth]

The bus only lane on the M2 parking lot is a real asset that probably isn't appreciated and it's far more direct on the map than the Metro.

The Bus Lane is only of use outbound in the PM, when the traffic builds back from Pennant Hills Road.. In the AM the traffic build up is from the M7 through to Windsor Road, on the section with the terrible side of road bus stops before you get to the Bus Lane, then is usually clear until the City side of Lane Cove Road or Delhi Road, far past where the bus lane ends. So in the morning it's the section with the Bus Lane is the section where the traffic flows!

There used to be AM peak traffic queue to Oakes Rd, or sometimes even Barclay Rd, but NorthConnex helped with the latter, and changed travel patterns has helped with the former.

Often underlooked, bus lanes are there for reliability, not just speed. Predictable travel times even when there are other issues on the network is key.

Recently I heard the typical 2GB call for opening the Epping Rd bus lanes for cars when the tunnel was closed, failing to understand all the Ryde and M2 buses used that bus lane with a multiplier more people carried than the cars.

[Swift]

Not to mention the bus lanes will fulfil their purpose more when their's more traffic from no tunnel.
They think private mostly single occupant vehicles are entitled to have the buses share the burden with them at times of crisis that has nothing to do with the buses.

[tonyp]

Not to mention the bus lanes will fulfil their purpose more when their's more traffic from no tunnel.
They think private mostly single occupant vehicles are entitled to have the buses share the burden with them at times of crisis that has nothing to do with the buses.

To anybody who complains about being "stuck" behind a bus, I would say, would you rather have a single bus in front of you or an additional 40 cars? Another good saying is: you're not stuck in a traffic jam; you are the traffic jam.

[Swift]

I've been guilty but you have to take a breath and and just say no worries.

[Linto63]

It will cost $73 million to run 100 buses a day instead of a train line. That’s just the start (Sydney Morning Herald)

Key points are:
*Transit Systems' contract will run for up to 23 months including mobilisation and demobilisation
*will require 100 buses, 75 to be provided by Transit Systems, balance by other operators
*first of 60 previously announced Chinese built diesels to arrive in August
*TfNSW stating shutdown will start sometime between July and October irrespective of whether the new buses have been delivered, which could be interesting

[Transport Buff]

The Chatswood to Sydenham extension can be seen mapped out on TfNSW Trip Planner map...including tracks & stations

See: https://transportnsw.info/trip#/trip

[Scott4570]

Looking at the Map, in the Link provided by Transport Buff above, for the Section, Chatswood to Sydenham, there doesn't appear to be any Crossover facilities to turn back Trains from one direction to the other.

For the existing Section, Chatswood to Tallawong, existing Crossovers are shown.

[hornetfig]

It's just whatever OpenStreepMap has input. The actual line does have scissor crossovers north of Barangaroo station.

[Transtopic]

Not sure if the crossovers are to be removed at Chatswood, but there are certainly crossovers at Sydenham, including a stabling yard. With through running, would retention of the crossovers at Chatswood be necessary, although they could be useful for trackwork and emergency shutdowns?