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Re: NSW Future Rail Plan - NWRL/Metro/Harbour Crossing

Postby moa999 » Fri May 17, 2019 10:34 pm

I'd suspect that was more likely a deliberate test.

Anyone know if there is some randomness on stopping positions - day +/- 30-50cm. Presumably no good stopping on exactly the same bit of track.

As I understand aircraft autoland have some random shift built in
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Re: NSW Future Rail Plan - NWRL/Metro/Harbour Crossing

Postby neilrex » Sat May 18, 2019 12:45 pm

only 2 men visible working on the metro platforms at chatswood 11 PM Friday night, apparently tinkering with the destination sign on platform 2. Come to think of it, why does platform 2 have a destination sign ?
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Re: NSW Future Rail Plan - NWRL/Metro/Harbour Crossing

Postby andy_centralcoast » Sat May 18, 2019 1:17 pm

I suspect it's bi-directional like the previous ECRL, so if a metro train is late arriving at Chatswood they'd maybe turn it back on platform 2 instead of sending it to the turnback and then to platform 3.
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Re: NSW Future Rail Plan - NWRL/Metro/Harbour Crossing

Postby boronia » Sat May 18, 2019 4:04 pm

Up till recently, it was showing when the next and previous 3 arrivals were due.
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Re: NSW Future Rail Plan - NWRL/Metro/Harbour Crossing

Postby Cazza » Sat May 18, 2019 6:21 pm

andy_centralcoast wrote:I suspect it's bi-directional like the previous ECRL, so if a metro train is late arriving at Chatswood they'd maybe turn it back on platform 2 instead of sending it to the turnback and then to platform 3.


Or for when the line is extended to the CBD/Bankstown, so they don't need to install it then.
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Re: NSW Future Rail Plan - NWRL/Metro/Harbour Crossing

Postby Fleet Lists » Sun May 19, 2019 9:54 pm

In Transport Info the records for the new Metro stations are of a slightly different format than other stations and include a map - see https://transportnsw.info/stop-details?q=10104006#/ Tallawang as opposed to the one for Epping https://transportnsw.info/stop?q=10101429#/ which links to a separate map or Beecroft https://transportnsw.info/stop?q=10101197#/ where there is no map.
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Re: NSW Future Rail Plan - NWRL/Metro/Harbour Crossing

Postby lunchbox » Mon May 20, 2019 10:55 am

EPPING #2 DEPARTURE SIGN;
It's required for CONFIRMATION. Rail passengers the world over expect a departure sign on the platform, just to re-assure them that they haven't made a mistake.
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Re: NSW Future Rail Plan - NWRL/Metro/Harbour Crossing

Postby matthewg » Tue May 21, 2019 2:10 pm

andy_centralcoast wrote:I suspect it's bi-directional like the previous ECRL, so if a metro train is late arriving at Chatswood they'd maybe turn it back on platform 2 instead of sending it to the turnback and then to platform 3.


Use of the Bi-Di would almost certainly require 'coded manual' driving. They won't be doing it often.

The computer is usually set up with the standard operating pattern only. Anything abnormal requires a human to drive.

I wonder if they will regularly operate on manual (Say an hour or so on Sunday mornings like in Singapore) so that the operations staff can 'keep their hand in'. Simulator hours won't cut it.
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Re: NSW Future Rail Plan - NWRL/Metro/Harbour Crossing

Postby Swift » Tue May 21, 2019 2:31 pm

Will you be able to see the driver's eye view in these things or will they be selfish like Sydney Trains and shut it away from the public?
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Re: NSW Future Rail Plan - NWRL/Metro/Harbour Crossing

Postby moa999 » Tue May 21, 2019 2:36 pm

Full view out the front and back
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Re: NSW Future Rail Plan - NWRL/Metro/Harbour Crossing

Postby kypros1992 » Wed May 22, 2019 10:39 am

The 1st day of the new North West Sydney Metro will be free to the public (saving $2.70). Transport Min Andrew Constance is hoping people stagger their trips to limit overcrowding. He expects the interest to be “nuts”.


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Re: NSW Future Rail Plan - NWRL/Metro/Harbour Crossing

Postby swtt » Wed May 22, 2019 10:47 am

kypros1992 wrote:
The 1st day of the new North West Sydney Metro will be free to the public (saving $2.70). Transport Min Andrew Constance is hoping people stagger their trips to limit overcrowding. He expects the interest to be “nuts”.


https://twitter.com/lachlan_kennedy/sta ... 5699017729


So what if people jump on to the metro and get off at say, Central which is gated and not free? Will they have to tap off and incur a default fare?
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Re: NSW Future Rail Plan - NWRL/Metro/Harbour Crossing

Postby boronia » Wed May 22, 2019 11:44 am

They will be on the metro for a long time if they want to go to Central. The "default fare" on a Sunday will be $2.70, so I don't think too many people will be disadvantaged.

Presumably on this day they could leave a couple of gates open at CHATSWOOD for the metro riders, but train travellers with a conscience could still tap on/off at other gates.
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Re: NSW Future Rail Plan - NWRL/Metro/Harbour Crossing

Postby boronia » Wed May 22, 2019 1:42 pm

The 1st day of the new North West Sydney Metro will be free to the public (saving $2.70). Transport Min Andrew Constance is hoping people stagger their trips to limit overcrowding. He expects the interest to be “nuts”.


https://twitter.com/lachlan_kennedy/sta ... 5699017729[/quote]

How does he expect people to "stagger their trips"?
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Re: NSW Future Rail Plan - NWRL/Metro/Harbour Crossing

Postby gilberations » Wed May 22, 2019 3:23 pm

I hope it is overcrowded. I hope the public using it for free test it to it’s fullest potential!


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Re: NSW Future Rail Plan - NWRL/Metro/Harbour Crossing

Postby stupid_girl » Wed May 22, 2019 3:27 pm

swtt wrote:
So what if people jump on to the metro and get off at say, Central which is gated and not free? Will they have to tap off and incur a default fare?

What if they are caught on the train to Central? A hefty fine! :twisted:
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Re: NSW Future Rail Plan - NWRL/Metro/Harbour Crossing

Postby Fleet Lists » Wed May 22, 2019 4:27 pm

see https://transportnsw.info/news/2019/new ... y#homepage for more details
The new Sydney Metro will be free this Sunday 26 May, when the service opens. You can have free travel between Tallawong and Chatswood metro stations to see Australia’s first driverless railway system.

All Sydney Metro stations will open just after 11am on Sunday. The last metro service will leave Chatswood at 10.05pm and Tallawong at 9.35pm.

The Opal gates at the 13 Metro North West Line stations will be open to allow free travel. If you are travelling on the Metro only, you won't need to tap on or tap off.

However, if you are travelling on other public transport, StationLink and North West Night Bus services, or are going beyond Chatswood or Epping on the Sydney Trains network, you will need to tap on and off at each station. Normal Sunday fares apply.

There will be more than 150 staff available across the Metro North West Line, at stations, roads and bus stops to help you get around the network. Bus and train services will connect you to new metro stations.

Large crowds are expected, so please be prepared for queues and crowds.
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Re: NSW Future Rail Plan - NWRL/Metro/Harbour Crossing

Postby Engineering » Wed May 22, 2019 5:40 pm

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Re: NSW Future Rail Plan - NWRL/Metro/Harbour Crossing

Postby tonyp » Wed May 22, 2019 6:06 pm

I remember that well. Hordes of people from the western suburbs wandering around BJ and into the Jewish bakery in Oxford St asking for meat pies and being met with an uncomprehending look. The days when BJ was authentic international rather than now formula international.

I also took a ride and somehow was able to get into the back cab and look at the tunnel all along the journey. Can't recall where the guard was or why we could get into the end of the train, but for sure it wasn't automated (at least I don't think so).
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Re: NSW Future Rail Plan - NWRL/Metro/Harbour Crossing

Postby swtt » Wed May 22, 2019 6:14 pm

There's been quite a few community groups that have already had rides on the metro. Practically open for business now :lol: Sunday is just plouging more people on board!
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Re: NSW Future Rail Plan - NWRL/Metro/Harbour Crossing

Postby Engineering » Thu May 23, 2019 6:18 am

Sydney Metro Twitter started a few days ago.

https://mobile.twitter.com/SydneyMetro
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Re: NSW Future Rail Plan - NWRL/Metro/Harbour Crossing

Postby tonyp » Sat May 25, 2019 11:57 am

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/newsl ... 894213a5ff

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Nothing similar from the Channel Nine Morning Herald. In days of yore it would have meant a big supplement.
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Re: NSW Future Rail Plan - NWRL/Metro/Harbour Crossing

Postby swtt » Sat May 25, 2019 1:01 pm

tonyp wrote:https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/newslocal/hills-shire-times/your-guide-to-the-sydney-metro-northwest-for-opening-day/news-story/19400533e0611d41d39098894213a5ff

(requires subscription)

Nothing similar from the Channel Nine Morning Herald. In days of yore it would have meant a big supplement.
Maybe you can quote some of its contents for those of us that don't have such a subscription?

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Re: NSW Future Rail Plan - NWRL/Metro/Harbour Crossing

Postby tonyp » Sat May 25, 2019 1:25 pm

swtt wrote:Maybe you can quote some of its contents for those of us that don't have such a subscription?

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It is a slide show and capture seems to be blocked, at least to me. perhaps there's a feature in the newspaper.
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Re: NSW Future Rail Plan - NWRL/Metro/Harbour Crossing

Postby boronia » Sat May 25, 2019 2:38 pm

tonyp wrote:https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/newslocal/hills-shire-times/your-guide-to-the-sydney-metro-northwest-for-opening-day/news-story/19400533e0611d41d39098894213a5ff

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Nothing similar from the Channel Nine Morning Herald. In days of yore it would have meant a big supplement.

Big supplements usually require financial contributions from the benefitting organisation or related advertisers. Maybe social media is a cheaper form of mass education these days?
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