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Re: The Random Admet Question Thread

Postby transenthusiast » Wed Aug 01, 2018 6:33 pm

Just wondering what does the B in B10/B12 & the C in C1/C2 stand for cos I've just about figured out all the others: AO - Adelaide Oval, G - Goodwood, H - Henley, J - Jet, M - Marion, X - Express.
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Re: The Random Admet Question Thread

Postby TA3001 » Wed Aug 01, 2018 7:12 pm

Bull---- and Complete bull----. These random alpha numeric route names have no place in Adelaide when they share roads with routes which have the 'old fashioned' names.

It was stupid to invent them in the first place. The only moderately tolerable example would be the J1.

But the current C1 just seems like a random selection by a 15 year old. Maybe it refers to serving stop C at TTP, but that's irrelevant with outbound runs.
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Re: The Random Admet Question Thread

Postby jibb » Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:24 pm

TA3001 wrote:Bull---- and Complete bull----. These random alpha numeric route names have no place in Adelaide when they share roads with routes which have the 'old fashioned' names.

It was stupid to invent them in the first place. The only moderately tolerable example would be the J1.

But the current C1 just seems like a random selection by a 15 year old. Maybe it refers to serving stop C at TTP, but that's irrelevant with outbound runs.

C stands I believe for "City".
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Re: The Random Admet Question Thread

Postby Eurostar » Wed Aug 01, 2018 10:01 pm

transenthusiast wrote:Just wondering what does the B in B10/B12 & the C in C1/C2 stand for cos I've just about figured out all the others: AO - Adelaide Oval, G - Goodwood, H - Henley, J - Jet, M - Marion, X - Express.


In 2005/2006 "JetBus" services were numbered J1 (Elizabeth to Glenelg via Airport), J2 (Greenwith to Airport), J3 (Fairview Park to Airport). C1 and C2 only ran between Elizabeth/Greenwith to City.
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Re: The Random Admet Question Thread

Postby TA3001 » Wed Aug 01, 2018 11:28 pm

jibb wrote:C stands I believe for "City".


Sort of makes sense now, but there's still nothing to indicate that it only serves certain selected stops.

The old T530 name was more definitive, as is T502 rather than 502 which has the potential to be misinterpreted as an all stops service, when it is technically not.
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Re: The Random Admet Question Thread

Postby busrider » Thu Aug 02, 2018 12:04 am

Part of the M44 is technically an F bus, but that's not mentioned in the route number either.
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Re: The Random Admet Question Thread

Postby Route 506 » Fri Aug 03, 2018 2:24 pm

TA3001 wrote:Bull---- and Complete bull----. These random alpha numeric route names have no place in Adelaide when they share roads with routes which have the 'old fashioned' names.

It was stupid to invent them in the first place. The only moderately tolerable example would be the J1.

But the current C1 just seems like a random selection by a 15 year old. Maybe it refers to serving stop C at TTP, but that's irrelevant with outbound runs.


Beautifully put, very much agree with this!

I get that C1/C2 means those services now terminate in the City but so do how many others services...? T530 etc would be far more accurate and less confusing for passengers.

As I have said on here before, to me the F, T and X buses are fine as they represent a difference to a route. J1/J1X/J3 are reasonable as they are Airport services, and I guess same for J7/J8 although they could be classed as cross suburban routes and have their own number.

Otherwise scrap these ridiculous and confusing alpha numeric names and bring back proper route numbers.

I would personally much prefer to have a list of several numbers e.g. 210-218, T219 instead of G10, G10A, G22X, G30F etc as at least you know every individual route number has a slight variation, but easy to follow!
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Re: The Random Admet Question Thread

Postby Skexis » Fri Aug 03, 2018 11:53 pm

Route 506 wrote:...scrap these ridiculous and confusing alpha numeric names and bring back proper route numbers.

I would personally much prefer to have a list of several numbers e.g. 210-218, T219 instead of G10, G10A, G22X, G30F etc as at least you know every individual route number has a slight variation, but easy to follow!

You forgot to take the mindset of the travelling public into account. Many of them still miserably fail to recharge their Metrrocards and award themselves free rides simply by carrying on walking to the back of the bus instead of doing the right thing and buying an actual ticket. Multiple route number changes would be far too confusing for them.
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Re: The Random Admet Question Thread

Postby homer9000 » Sat Aug 04, 2018 10:13 am

the weird bit and i was on a 200 run by an o'bahn bus that continued as a 208 beyond the city was people validating tickets at the rear using the back doors.i thought that only applied to actual track services.
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Re: The Random Admet Question Thread

Postby TA3001 » Sat Aug 04, 2018 3:11 pm

homer9000 wrote:the weird bit and i was on a 200 run by an o'bahn bus that continued as a 208 beyond the city was people validating tickets at the rear using the back doors.i thought that only applied to actual track services.


I personally think at least some drivers need some strict reeducation about how it works, as I have intended to board an O'bahn bus at Paradise through the rear doors only to find them shut. If they are not attentive enough to look out for boarding passengers, then what I said.

All door boarding should be applicable whenever a bus fitted with validators in the doorways pulls up, not just when it suits the driver. There are a lot of O'bahn rigids out on regular shifts on weekends, and it would be better in my opinion if there weren't restrictions in regards to boarding through the rear on these vehicles. Passengers will need to look for the signs, otherwise it's obviously through the front only.
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Re: The Random Admet Question Thread

Postby Skexis » Mon Aug 06, 2018 5:42 pm

Boarding times would be greatly improved if people stuck to front door entry/rear door exit at all times. Some of the old SG's had gates at the front of the bus that prevented people from exiting there. All this rear door rubbish is not going to help anyone in the long term.
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Re: The Random Admet Question Thread

Postby 2MSJ » Tue Aug 07, 2018 2:18 pm

Interested how you support that claim?
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Re: The Random Admet Question Thread

Postby Skexis » Wed Aug 08, 2018 12:36 am

If that's directed at me what clarification do you require?
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Re: The Random Admet Question Thread

Postby 2MSJ » Thu Aug 09, 2018 4:24 pm

How you figure single door boarding is faster than all door boarding?
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Re: The Random Admet Question Thread

Postby Skexis » Thu Aug 09, 2018 4:41 pm

Simply because it routes the traffic in one direction only thereby eliminating clogging at the front door. Some people would still need to use the front doors in both directions but if there's no definite need then they should alight from the rear. One-way streets are designed to speed the flow of traffic so the principle should also work within the confines of a bus. Plus there are the issues around revenue protection as you've no way of seeing who validates at the rear so no driver is going to bother calling anyone out.

Also a correction as it wasn't the SG's that had the gates, it was some of the old Mercs although in R557 it only extended halfway across the gangway. Seem to remember a couple of the others had two gates.
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