BusNSW Bus Show

Tim Williams · Post by **Tim Williams** » Sat Oct 08, 2016 10:12 am

I do hope someone is going to post some photos - I made the mistake of taking a small camera (instead of my normal Olympus OMD) and the results I obtained were inferior. The little Panasonic GF3 takes great outdoor photos, but ones taken at the show were not particularly sharp. There were a few deckers at the show:
1. Sydney Museum's RT - beautifully restored by Bustech (even if the seat material looks like "RM" to me!) - but they really have done a great job inside and out, some sign writing or transfers are now needed.
2. Bustech CDI - SkyBus no 112.
3. Volgren/Volvo Optimus DD
4. MAN/Gemilang DD.
5. BCI Cityrider DD.
6. Sydney Museum's prewar Leyland TD - in its wonderful red livery.

And operating a circular service around the Olympic area and down to the ferry terminal were 3 of the museums DD's - an early Sydney Atlantean, Regent 3 and an obviously recently repainted OPD2 - looking very smart.

If no one does post I will a couple of inferior photos, later today or tomorrow,

There was a good selection of urban and school buses and premium coaches, but not one artic., is this a sign of the future??

Tas Bus Nut · Post by **Tas Bus Nut** » Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:51 am

Inferior is better than nothing at all

lunchbox · Post by **lunchbox** » Mon Oct 10, 2016 11:01 am

For those familiar with Flikr (?), lindsaybridge has posted some pix there.

tonyp · Post by **tonyp** » Mon Oct 10, 2016 12:13 pm

Transit Graphics has the usual display, unfortunately uncaptioned, on their Facebook:

https://www.facebook.com/transitgraphics.au/photos

I'm disappointed at the lack of innovation - yet again.

Tim Williams · Post by **Tim Williams** » Mon Oct 10, 2016 2:31 pm

: The museum's wonderful RT - repainted & re-upholstered by Bustech and a great job done too!!; P1090482.jpg (64.65 KiB) Viewed 15572 times

boronia · Post by **boronia** » Mon Oct 10, 2016 2:37 pm

It was a bit overdone with Bustech branding inside. Perhaps it could now be classed as an RTi

Tim Williams · Post by **Tim Williams** » Mon Oct 10, 2016 2:41 pm

: This first MAN/Gemilang is really a "proof of concept" and production buses will have increased top deck ceiling height.; P1090508.jpg (63.35 KiB) Viewed 15565 times

: MAN/Gemilang have done very well, conforming to our regulations.; P1090507.jpg (57.33 KiB) Viewed 15565 times

: BCI's Cityrider DD - interesting, but not as well laid out as either the Gemilang or the Volgren; P1090522.jpg (62.28 KiB) Viewed 15565 times

: The Volgren is a good looking bus, and well organised inside, I hope increased axle weight allowances will this design on the road in reasonable numbers.; P1090489.jpg (58.53 KiB) Viewed 15565 times

Denv12 · Post by **Denv12** » Mon Oct 10, 2016 4:20 pm

Great photos.Thanks for sharing.

Tim Williams · Post by **Tim Williams** » Mon Oct 10, 2016 4:21 pm

: BCI's new low floor city bus; P1090539.jpg (63.7 KiB) Viewed 15523 times

: A magnificent old "OB"; P1090519.jpg (53.05 KiB) Viewed 15523 times

: Old Canberra Regal 3; P1090517.jpg (55.35 KiB) Viewed 15523 times

: The beautiful old TD; P1090516.jpg (54.38 KiB) Viewed 15523 times

: BCI claim they can produce a 2 axle decker within allowable weights; P1090540.jpg (32.95 KiB) Viewed 15523 times

: Strong winds (from a certain direction) required the use of the cross runway at Sydney, day before the bus show - hence the photo!!; P1090433aa_edited-1.jpg (74.56 KiB) Viewed 15523 times

tonyp · Post by **tonyp** » Mon Oct 10, 2016 4:56 pm

These are excellent photos thanks Tim, no need to apologise for quality.

After digging deep on the BCI website, I see that their so-called "city bus" is actually a low entry bus, not a low floor bus. It has a flight of steps in the aisle after the second door - in other words, an outer suburban or country bus, not one designed for processing large numbers of passengers with high turnover, which is what a citybus is. Like Bustech's economy with the facts, it's not enough having the gall to call it a "low floor", they also describe it as an "ultra low floor" bus. Being a public forum, I'll keep the language I normally would use to express my discontent with this state of affairs under my hat.

In other words, it's just another same old, stuck in a rut, Australian outer-urban bus design. Somebody wake me up when a citybus turns up at a Bus Show!

Tim Williams · Post by **Tim Williams** » Mon Oct 10, 2016 7:49 pm

Thanks for your comments, I should have taken a better camera!!

Lt. Commander Data · Post by **Lt. Commander Data** » Mon Oct 10, 2016 7:52 pm

Thanks you for sharing those photos Tim Williams. I cannot see any issue with the quality of the photos, they are quite good.

The Sydney Bus Show seems like a rather interesting event - I will have to go one year. Was there a Citaro or anything European there? - Tony P's post above suggests not. Al least there were some new decker designs.

tonyp · Post by **tonyp** » Mon Oct 10, 2016 8:14 pm

I think it was the decker year this year!

Centralian · Post by **Centralian** » Mon Oct 10, 2016 9:29 pm

Happy to share with those that couldn't get there. I get the feeling there must have been a lot of camera battery failures by the response to date.

grumble ! grumble !!
Others may want to throw in some images of the other displays that aren't covered to date.

: Ogden's with an interesting application of a Custom SB50 midi body
to a front-engined Iveco Euromidi.; 101.jpg (158.91 KiB) Viewed 15411 times

: Interior seating layout of the Ogdens SB50 midi.; 102.jpg (148.91 KiB) Viewed 15411 times

: Leeton Bus Hino RN with P&D body.; 103.jpg (113.75 KiB) Viewed 15411 times

: Inverell Bus Service MAN with a Custom CB80 Cargo body.; 104.jpg (147.06 KiB) Viewed 15411 times

: Baxter's Scania / Higer combination. A livery that makes anything look good.; 105.jpg (148.59 KiB) Viewed 15411 times

: Deanes Transport Iveco Euro with Irizar body.; 106.jpg (121.43 KiB) Viewed 15411 times

: Forest with a Volvo / Marcopolo combination.; 107.jpg (154.28 KiB) Viewed 15411 times

: Cooma's BIG MAN - a MAN 26.504 with Coach Design body number 900.; 108.jpg (141.25 KiB) Viewed 15411 times

: On Course Tours Bonluck.; 109.jpg (138.25 KiB) Viewed 15411 times

: Kangaroo Bus Lines 80 seater Denning Phoenix 14.5m.; 110.jpg (144.38 KiB) Viewed 15411 times

tonyp · Post by **tonyp** » Mon Oct 10, 2016 9:58 pm

OK it was decker and coach year this year then. Maybe it'll be citybus year next year!

Thank you for your excellent photos Tim and Centralian. It's a great help for those of us who couldn't make it.

boronia · Post by **boronia** » Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:06 pm

There were quite a few ordinary buses on display too, along with many mini types.

Looks like no one (OK, including me) took photos of them

tonyp · Post by **tonyp** » Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:12 pm

boronia wrote:There were quite a few ordinary buses on display too, along with many mini types.

Looks like no one (OK, including me) took photos of them

If they were like the BCI we haven't missed anything new. I hope the others were more honest in describing their buses though.

Bus 400 · Post by **Bus 400** » Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:13 pm

I snapped just a couple of photos, they've been packaged in a small folder at https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set ... 4d9ba4c789

(You most certainly do not need a Facebook account to view)

Sent from my SM-T810 using Tapatalk

Post by **Daniel** » Tue Oct 11, 2016 6:26 am

Tonyp, I thought you'd be all over the Hino Poncho low floor displayed at the show. Steps only for the rearmost seats. I'm tired of seeing seniors having to clamber up and down Rosas and Coasters community buses. The solution is here for the group that would benefit most from a low floor bus.

tonyp · Post by **tonyp** » Tue Oct 11, 2016 7:07 am

Daniel wrote:Tonyp, I thought you'd be all over the Hino Poncho low floor displayed at the show. Steps only for the rearmost seats. I'm tired of seeing seniors having to clamber up and down Rosas and Coasters community buses. The solution is here for the group that would benefit most from a low floor bus.

Absolutely. I think some time ago on another thread we discussed the accessibility problem of seniors and minibuses but this hadn't arrived on the market at that time. I guess the question will be whether it will be affordable and viable for some owners.

Post by **Daniel** » Tue Oct 11, 2016 7:31 am

Advised the price would be circa $200k. The list price for Rosas and Coasters is around $120k, so we'll have to wait and see if it dents that market. Trouble is the sub $100k crappy import Golden Dragons rip off designs for the Coaster which seem to be popping up for community operators trying to save a buck.

Apollo · Post by **Apollo** » Tue Oct 11, 2016 5:17 pm

Nice to see genman getting the gen in one of the above photos!

burrumbus · Post by **burrumbus** » Tue Oct 11, 2016 6:15 pm

At that price Daniel ,I don't think the Poncho will deny Coaster or Rosa many sales.$80K is just too big a gap for most community transport operators..
You are right about the Golden Dragon though.But with all cheap things you get what you pay for over the vehicle's life.Much larger maintainence cost ,more downtime and less vehicle longetivity.

CCCC · Post by **CCCC** » Tue Oct 11, 2016 9:33 pm

Anyone got the rundown on Purtills OB CAC

I recall a tour I did at Deniliquin maybe year 2000 , fuelled up at Purtills and used their truck wash , I recall seeing the CAC in a holding yard next to the servo
with a for sale sign in its front window , I also think I recall incorrectly because I thought they had a few of these old OB's forsale in the yard.

So did Purtill have more than one because the historical list seems to only suggests one.
So on Purtills website it looks like they still own the OB which they call Rosie , good to see they spent the time to restore and keep.
Have to be one of my favourite bodies.

Swift · Post by **Swift** » Wed Oct 12, 2016 12:48 am

How did they get the SBM's RT up to Qld return?
Not under it's own steam I hope.

boronia wrote:Perhaps it could now be classed as an RTi

And rename Bustech "Aldenham Works Qld".

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