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Re: Double Deckers for Skybus

Postby Fleet Lists » Tue Dec 29, 2015 2:12 pm

How could they possibly replace 54 buses with less than 10 double deckers - just check the fleet list http://fleetlists.busaustralia.com/vic.php?search=SKY
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Re: Double Deckers for Skybus

Postby jarf » Tue Dec 29, 2015 4:31 pm

They'll have enough to run most city services most of the time.

I imagine the MAN artics will still appear in peak times. And of course the Optares and Rosas will continue to run the hotel shuttle services. :wink:
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Re: Double Deckers for Skybus

Postby burrumbus » Tue Dec 29, 2015 5:08 pm

And they operate aircrew shuttle contracts and a bit of charter with the other buses.
It's probably the only route service in Melbourne that has the consistent patronage to justify double deckers and artics.
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Re: Double Deckers for Skybus

Postby boronia » Tue Dec 29, 2015 7:01 pm

And expensive?

But that is what monopolies are all about.
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Re: Double Deckers for Skybus

Postby burrumbus » Tue Dec 29, 2015 8:00 pm

Yes granted,but it isn't a complete monopoly.You have multiple operators doing City-Hotels shuttles and suburban route and on demand shuttles,taxis and the PTV contract route services there.There are alternatives.
Expensive it is,but it is very much a quality service in all areas.The standards are so much higher than the average suburban route service.You get what you pay for.I guess the massive growth in patronage on the service shows the public are willing to pay for a quality service.
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Re: Double Deckers for Skybus

Postby BluDART » Tue Jun 07, 2016 3:51 pm

Skybus has indicated via its Facebook page that it is to receive an additional 6 double deckers this winter apparently.
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Re: Double Deckers for Skybus

Postby LB608 » Tue Jun 07, 2016 5:51 pm

those 6 are they for Melbourne or Auckland?
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Double Deckers for Skybus

Postby Mitch » Wed Jun 08, 2016 9:26 pm

They'll be destined for Melbourne. Auckland are importing Gemilangs.

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Re: Double Deckers for Skybus

Postby 1whoknows » Sun Jun 19, 2016 11:38 am

Because NSW has to date failed to update the axle loadings for two axle vehicles. Doubtless they will get around to it sometime this century.
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Re: Double Deckers for Skybus

Postby Tim Williams » Sun Jun 19, 2016 12:50 pm

It is interesting to note that an article in this week's ABC on-line newsletter about the forthcoming NSW budget talks about 80 seater double deckers for Sydney - detail regarding the numbers of buses to be purchased and operators etc. will appear later. Within the NSW section is a topic regarding new buses and new bus routes (I think), which quotes the ABC article - it is worth a read.
But, to me, what this does say, is that they will be going for conventional 3 axle deckers (Volvo's or Enviro's) and not the Bustech CDI which is a 96 seater!! The subject of "Double Deckers" has been on the agenda of industry forums etc., so it may be that common sense is happening, rather than blind regulatory application. However, my comments regarding the types of deckers for NSW are only my assumptions, not facts!!
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Re: Double Deckers for Skybus

Postby simonl » Sun Jun 19, 2016 2:04 pm

1whoknows wrote:Because NSW has to date failed to update the axle loadings for two axle vehicles. Doubtless they will get around to it sometime this century.

Hang on, what are you saying here. That two axle deckers are normal in the rest of the world?
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Re: Double Deckers for Skybus

Postby Tim Williams » Sun Jun 19, 2016 2:10 pm

Hopefully, he means for 3 axle buses - because the problem is there for DD's in NSW
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Re: Double Deckers for Skybus

Postby 1whoknows » Wed Jun 22, 2016 7:46 pm

Simonl the bus industry confederation sought an increase from 16 to 18 tonnes in 2007. Victoria did it in 2012 as have several other states. But not the retards of nsw. Thats why the CDC decker is running in Vic but not nsw.
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Re: Double Deckers for Skybus

Postby simonl » Thu Jun 23, 2016 1:16 pm

The CDi decker is running in NSW with CDC. Still confused by your comments. And isn't the two axle weight irrelevant for a 3 axle bus?
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Re: Double Deckers for Skybus

Postby busrider » Fri Jun 24, 2016 12:36 am

He was referring to the Volgren-bodied Volvo decker, which was built for CDC in Sydney, but ended up going to CDC in Melbourne instead.
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Re: Double Deckers for Skybus

Postby Daniel » Fri Jul 01, 2016 7:33 am

1whoknows wrote:Simonl the bus industry confederation sought an increase from 16 to 18 tonnes in 2007. Victoria did it in 2012 as have several other states. But not the retards of nsw. Thats why the CDC decker is running in Vic but not nsw.

It might pay to get your story straight. The weight limit for two axle buses in NSW was increased in 2013. Refer to the link below: http://www.busnsw.com.au/Portals/15/Members%20Area/Acts%20and%20Regs/Ministerial%20Declaration%20(2%20axle%20Bus%20Mass%20Exemption)%20Order%202013_2.pdf

The National Heavy Vehicle Regulator sets the dimension and weight provisions to be implemented by the states.

The single CDC Volgren three axle decker in Vic is operating under a limited permit arrangement, which is irrelevant for discussion to the increase of two axle weight limits. The other units built and shipped here last year continue to sit about unused by either state. Think about your own retarded comments before blindly attacking another state.

To return to topic, the 7th Skybus Bustech CDi is presently making its way down to Melbourne.
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Re: Double Deckers for Skybus

Postby superbossgc » Tue Jul 05, 2016 3:40 pm

also another delivery of the 8th Bustech CDi is on way down.
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Re: Double Deckers for Skybus

Postby superbossgc » Sat Jul 16, 2016 7:45 pm

9th arrived Melbourne & in service very soon.
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Re: Double Deckers for Skybus

Postby SurfsideGC » Wed Aug 03, 2016 12:14 pm

Skybus #110 on its way to delivery.
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Re: Double Deckers for Skybus

Postby superbossgc » Fri Aug 19, 2016 1:39 pm

11th as #111 are on the way down, last one 12th is due to arrive by the first week of september.
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Re: Double Deckers for Skybus

Postby tranzitjim » Fri Aug 19, 2016 7:33 pm

Is there any chance we may see some of these double decks on the St Kilda and/or Frankston routes?
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Re: Double Deckers for Skybus

Postby Alstom 888M » Sat Aug 20, 2016 1:02 am

Nope.
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Re: Double Deckers for Skybus

Postby boronia » Wed Oct 05, 2016 6:33 pm

A couple of Bustech Skybus deckers at the Sydney bus show:
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The RT is plastered with Bustech signage inside, sort of spoils the restoration
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Re: Double Deckers for Skybus

Postby superbossgc » Mon May 22, 2017 1:54 pm

news today, another 1 more CDi to come as no 113, look out for it :).
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Re: Double Deckers for Skybus

Postby superbossgc » Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:33 pm

4 more new DD, first one is now in Melbourne as 114 is for Avalon airport runs, look out for it.
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