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Double decker license?

Postby Spannerhead » Wed Feb 08, 2012 12:09 am

Say, I heard that you need a B double license in order to drive a double decker bus. I dont see the logic in this and refuse to believe it. Anyone familiar with the rules?

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Re: Double decker license?

Postby Daniel » Wed Feb 08, 2012 3:39 am

Incorrect.
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Re: Double decker license?

Postby boronia » Wed Feb 08, 2012 8:45 am

Just a plain old HR will suffice (or even MR if it has only two axles).
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Postby Charlie » Wed Feb 08, 2012 1:38 pm

Even Bendy is only HR
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Re: Double decker license?

Postby Daz » Wed Feb 08, 2012 1:50 pm

But need a Driver Authority to cart passengers in anything!

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Re: Double decker license?

Postby Spannerhead » Wed Feb 08, 2012 2:11 pm

Just as i thought. Well I will be able to show him this thread, not before placing a bet. Haha
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Re: Double decker license?

Postby Spannerhead » Wed Feb 08, 2012 2:42 pm

In a previous post someone had mentioned that a double decker cannot be registerd as a motorhome. At least the Atlantean of 4.5m in height cant. Is there a consensus on this?
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Re: Double decker license?

Postby Bedford-29 » Wed Feb 08, 2012 4:55 pm

A bus can be registered as a motor-home whether it is D/D,S/D or bendy. Try saying that to the owners of the 100s of buses already converted to motor-homes. Who in the heck is spinning this tripe you need a HC or MC licence to drive a D/D and you can`t register a bus as motor-home.
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Re: Double decker license?

Postby boronia » Wed Feb 08, 2012 5:29 pm

Spannerhead wrote:In a previous post someone had mentioned that a double decker cannot be registerd as a motorhome. At least the Atlantean of 4.5m in height cant. Is there a consensus on this?

There would not be too many (read NONE) Atlanteans that are 4.5 high, so yes one couldn't be registered. Most old double deckers are 4.4 or less, which is legal.
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Postby Charlie » Wed Feb 08, 2012 6:38 pm

Quite a few Setras floating around as motorhomes
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Postby busrider » Wed Feb 08, 2012 7:21 pm

I've seen a double decker Denning as a motorhome before...
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Re: Double decker license?

Postby Mr Scania » Wed Feb 08, 2012 7:37 pm

From what I gather an Atlantean is the highest of all Double Deckers at approx 4.5 metres. As use as a bus it is legal. As use as a motorhome it is overheight and must be lowered to be registered in NSW.

As for Setras, Dennings and Hi Decks they are all approx 4.1 - 4.2


Who is the goose that said that you need a B Double licence to drive a double decker bus. They would have had to make it up as it is too stupid to believe.
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Re: Double decker license?

Postby Spannerhead » Thu Feb 09, 2012 5:11 pm

The goose that spun the nonsense heard it from another goose and so it goes on.

That height restriction mentioned above, is that just for NSW? I suppose there must be similar laws in other states to prevent potential hazards caused by custom 6m high mobile monstrosities roaming the roads.
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Postby boronia » Thu Feb 09, 2012 5:29 pm

In the old language, Sydney deckers were 14' 4" high, which equates to 4.36 metres.
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Re: Double decker license?

Postby Spannerhead » Thu Feb 09, 2012 7:12 pm

I have this urge to import a UK double decker and make a motorhome with it. Suppose it costs me $10,000 to get it here on our roads it will still be cheaper and newer than these $35,000 old Atlanteans which appear to be the only option in Aus.

Im looking at one which measures 4.45m high... Am I going to run into problems registering it as a motorhome?

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Re: Double decker license?

Postby boronia » Thu Feb 09, 2012 7:15 pm

YES
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Postby Spannerhead » Thu Feb 09, 2012 7:43 pm

Well its hard to find the right info on the net. However i did notice this post on another forum which shows that an Atlantean was on its way to becoming registered as a motorhome. Nothing was said about the height being a problem.

http://www.candm.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=9012
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Re: Double decker license?

Postby Spannerhead » Thu Feb 09, 2012 7:53 pm

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Re: Double decker license?

Postby Spannerhead » Thu Feb 09, 2012 8:01 pm

As well as NSW, where a vehicle exceeding 4.3m in height is classed as a restricted access vehicle.

http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/heavyvehicles ... ss0706.pdf

man, things arent looking up but some people out there have done it...
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Re: Double decker license?

Postby boronia » Thu Feb 09, 2012 8:20 pm

You may be able to get low profile tyres and get the height down a bit. :idea: :mrgreen:
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Re: Double decker license?

Postby Alfy » Thu Feb 09, 2012 8:54 pm

Honestly why would you want to convert such a piece of history that may give you endless mechanical woes that you would not be able to sort out due to unavailability or parts in regional aust.

surely a converted coach with highway gearing and air-cond would be more realistic approach for a motorhome, have seen a few old coaches around the stargazer motor home conversions at Heatherbrae near newcastle recently

As for the licence - what galah suggested the hc licence !!!
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Double decker license?

Postby mrobsessed » Thu Feb 09, 2012 10:56 pm

Those Olympians in Katoomba were 4.6m high. Wonder how that rule was circumvented. 20cm is a lot to lose.
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Re: Double decker license?

Postby boronia » Fri Feb 10, 2012 4:52 am

Restricted Access Permits for vehicles up to 4.6 high, as mentioned above ??
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Postby OLYMPIAN » Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:50 pm

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Re: Double decker license?

Postby Spannerhead » Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:12 am

The deckers Ive been looking at were made in the late 80s and early 90s. Quite a few have Cummins engines. Id love to have two floors for a motorhome; theres more space.
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