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Re: [Nov/Dec 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby busrider » Fri Dec 22, 2017 5:02 pm

1136 bus had a fire at Paradise Interchange this afternoon. At this stage the amount of damage isn't known.
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Re: [Nov/Dec 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby TA3001 » Fri Dec 22, 2017 7:08 pm

busrider wrote:1136 bus had a fire at Paradise Interchange this afternoon. At this stage the amount of damage isn't known.


There should be a record kept of which ones haven't yet caught fire for the respective year/month.

The ones that have held out well without any real obvious issues (from my obs) are 1109, 1127, 1137, 1145, 1153, 1157, and 1166. The rest all seem to register as having diff issues, being out of service for rebuilds, poor ride quality, or at least something! 7 out of 66 (minus 1120) isn't too bad for this chassis.
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Re: [Nov/Dec 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby mmosca447 » Fri Dec 22, 2017 7:30 pm

We’re gonna run out of O-Bahn artics soon if we’re not careful :x
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Re: [Nov/Dec 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby jibb » Fri Dec 22, 2017 7:47 pm

4 out of action 1161(write off)-1136(tonight)-1113 and 1162 have been out of action for several months!
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Re: [Nov/Dec 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby TA3001 » Fri Dec 22, 2017 8:28 pm

mmosca447 wrote:We’re gonna run out of O-Bahn artics soon if we’re not careful :x


That sounds similar to a comment I made in 2015, so I'm surprised this haven't received a satirical reply.

jibb wrote:1161(write off)


1161 has been retired? What will replace it? I'm fine with 2801 (possibly renumbered 1000) going back on the track if it's needed :).
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Re: [Nov/Dec 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby busrider » Fri Dec 22, 2017 8:39 pm

I think if any existing artics were to be put on the track, they'd be K360UAs.
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Re: [Nov/Dec 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby jibb » Sat Dec 23, 2017 8:29 am

busrider wrote:1136 bus had a fire at Paradise Interchange this afternoon. At this stage the amount of damage isn't known.

Damage has been estimated at $100,000-quite substantial.
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Re: [Nov/Dec 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby TA3001 » Sat Dec 23, 2017 10:41 am

Just curious, exactly which O'bahn buses are off the road at the moment awaiting repairs?

And what's happening with 1106? It seems to have some very audible issue that I can hear from 600 metres away.
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Re: [Nov/Dec 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby jibb » Sat Dec 23, 2017 10:47 am

TA3001 wrote:Just curious, exactly which O'bahn buses are off the road at the moment awaiting repairs?

And what's happening with 1106? It seems to have some very audible issue that I can hear from 600 metres away.

Already listed above.
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Re: [Nov/Dec 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby Stephen G Lucas » Sun Dec 24, 2017 5:13 am

TA3001 wrote:
busrider wrote:1136 bus had a fire at Paradise Interchange this afternoon. At this stage the amount of damage isn't known.


There should be a record kept of which ones haven't yet caught fire for the respective year/month.

The ones that have held out well without any real obvious issues (from my obs) are 1109, 1127, 1137, 1145, 1153, 1157, and 1166. The rest all seem to register as having diff issues, being out of service for rebuilds, poor ride quality, or at least something! 7 out of 66 (minus 1120) isn't too bad for this chassis.


I am sorry but they are passenger service vehicles and none of them should be having these on-going issues. As with anything mechanical things go wrong so then it gets fixed. Unfortunately, in today's climate the attitude is wait until it breaks then fix it rather than preventative maintenance.
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Re: [Nov/Dec 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby TA3001 » Sun Dec 24, 2017 11:11 am

Stephen G Lucas wrote:
I am sorry but they are passenger service vehicles and none of them should be having these on-going issues. As with anything mechanical things go wrong so then it gets fixed. Unfortunately, in today's climate the attitude is wait until it breaks then fix it rather than preventative maintenance.


The same could be said for Port Adelaide. Buses 423, 432, 1002. 1008, 1248, 1302, 1334, 1501, 1512, 1731, and 1953 are all ones that have had signs of very poor maintenance, even for prolonged periods of time.

1953's like some of the O'bahn artics with that loud whine in motion, and it's been like this almost since it was new.
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Re: [Nov/Dec 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby TA3001 » Mon Dec 25, 2017 12:38 pm

Why on earth does a public holiday 228 have 80 minutes to get to Smithfield? You could leave VS3 20 minutes late and still get there on time. It used to be 57 minutes at night.

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Re: [Nov/Dec 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby jibb » Mon Dec 25, 2017 10:12 pm

Apparently some services had good loadings today. LCB didn't have any Artics in use even on the O-Bahn where they could have been put to good use.
I did see an Artic on an H30 approaching Paradise Interchange late this afternoon. Torrens Transit seem to be happy to use them on weekends and Public Holidays, whereas LCB only use them during these times on the O-Bahn.
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Re: [Nov/Dec 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby TA3001 » Mon Dec 25, 2017 10:24 pm

jibb wrote:Apparently some services had good loadings today. LCB didn't have any Artics in use even on the O-Bahn where they could have been put to good use.
I did see an Artic on an H30 approaching Paradise Interchange late this afternoon. Torrens Transit seem to be happy to use them on weekends and Public Holidays, whereas LCB only use them during these times on the O-Bahn.


Heavier loadings than expected? I don't think there were many if any Southlink artics out excluding in the hills (possibly, didn't check).

Lonsdale almost never use them on weekends except on overnight shifts. Aldgate/Mount Barker would possibly feel obligated to use them on Sundays due to high patronage levels being predicted with the 864s being all stops at hourly intervals with no 861 to cater for the overload.
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Re: [Nov/Dec 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby bigrobbo » Mon Dec 25, 2017 10:49 pm

I am on my 7th bus today. Even the 415 I caught at 3:51pm had 7 passengers.

Both my 451s (even the one at 10pm) had good numbers on them.

And, I saw a Torrens Artic on a 230 around 10:55pm at Ovungham.


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Re: [Nov/Dec 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby jibb » Tue Dec 26, 2017 7:50 am

Adelaide Metro are running extra services into the City during the morning on the O-Bahn(544 from Tea Tre Plaza)and the trams. There will be additional services from the City in the afternoon on both those services.
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Re: [Nov/Dec 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby thedom » Tue Dec 26, 2017 5:50 pm

Today i rode on 3016 railcar which has had the "gunzel" window at the lead railcar end ( & TVM end) frosted out with a sticker treatment or similar... is this the beginning of the end to the 3000 series "gunzel"windows? Any info from those in the know?

It was also a surprise to passengers on the 1548 ex Adl to Gawler Central service that at Salisbury we arrived into platform 1... passengers ran from platform two which is the usual weekend and P/holiday service... delaying the service a few minutes. The 1621 service ex Adelaide as well arrived platform 1. Managing the use of the switches on an extended long weekend perhaps? Perhaps this is just like the nightly last two trains servicing platform 1 at dry creek usually ex Adl.
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Re: [Nov/Dec 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby Eagle Eye » Tue Dec 26, 2017 8:06 pm

jibb wrote:Apparently some services had good loadings today. LCB didn't have any Artics in use even on the O-Bahn where they could have been put to good use.

And how many full buses were there on the O-Bahn with full rigid buses? As far as I'm aware none. There are about 40-43 seats on those rigid buses and there were nowhere near that number of passengers on any service that I saw on Christmas Day.

On the other hand, all O-Bahn buses I saw today for Boxing Day were artics and they were very busy, even the extra services. Now that's what I call good use of buses, using smaller buses on a very quiet day and artics on a busy day, not putting artics out for the sake of it on a quiet day.
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Re: [Nov/Dec 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby Eagle Eye » Tue Dec 26, 2017 8:08 pm

For what it's worth, hopefully it's not too late, Merry Christmas to all Bus Australia members and have a safe and happy start to 2018! :D
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Re: [Nov/Dec 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby TA3001 » Wed Dec 27, 2017 10:50 pm

The lovely 1781 did a 196 today at about 4PM. It managed about 3 kph up Kalyara Rd hill flat out. Is this really desirable for metro bus operations? It was amusing nonetheless, albeit weird as. It was about the same pace that 1601 managed earlier this year (still with minor CNG intake issues).

I know that there's a diesel only policy with Torrens Transit and this route, but occasionally a CNG bus may be the only choice :).
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Re: [Nov/Dec 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby transenthusiast » Thu Dec 28, 2017 11:46 am

Just wondering about 892, 1601 & 1679, will they be returning to their homes if they haven't done so already or have they been transferred to Camden Park permanently?
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Re: [Nov/Dec 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby TA3001 » Thu Dec 28, 2017 1:24 pm

1679 has been at Camden Park for at least a couple of months now.

It could have been a random transfer to meet shift requirements, that doesn't involve Newton being deprived of one their CB80s.

BTW, no bus could ever be considered 'at home' at Newton. It is a form of detention for any AdMet bus that has been unfortunate enough to end up there. 1636 and 1637 are not excluded from this category.
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Re: [Nov/Dec 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby bigrobbo » Thu Dec 28, 2017 5:16 pm

For Gunzels interested in catching the “one-off” services, the 150s scheduled to connect with the 157s at stop 18 are showing the destination 150W


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Re: [Nov/Dec 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby Skexis » Fri Dec 29, 2017 8:12 pm

Saw a herd of artics crossing from Grenfell to Currie earlier today that had the word Disabled in white-on-blue over the front door and Entrance in large white-on-green stickers over both sets of rear doors. Anyone know why they have been marked as such and what they're going to be used for? It's hard enough monitoring who validates and who doesn't on a normal bus so if this becomes AdMet's standard boarding practice I just won't bother in future.
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Re: [Nov/Dec 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby hillsbus » Fri Dec 29, 2017 8:27 pm

Skexis wrote:Saw a herd of artics crossing from Grenfell to Currie earlier today that had the word Disabled in white-on-blue over the front door and Entrance in large white-on-green stickers over both sets of rear doors. Anyone know why they have been marked as such and what they're going to be used for? It's hard enough monitoring who validates and who doesn't on a normal bus so if this becomes AdMet's standard boarding practice I just won't bother in future.


Following the launch of all door boarding on the 17th of December on the O-Bahn, all the O-Bahn fleet seems to have these signs. The front door sign states Accessible Entrance and middle/rear door signs state Metrocard entrance. Everyone I've seen use middle/rear doors is validating. Essentially it is the same principle as the tram where there are multiple doors and no staff member oversees validations.
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