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Re: PTA / Transperth & Private Observations - 2019

Postby Merc1107 » Tue Oct 29, 2019 1:38 pm

TP1462 wrote:2964 are registered
2964 (plus 61-63) have been in service since last Wednesday or earlier - but only 2961 & 2962 were mentioned further back in the thread.
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Re: PTA / Transperth & Private Observations - 2019

Postby Bus Suggestions » Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:17 pm

2244 back at Joondalup/Wangara.
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Re: PTA / Transperth & Private Observations - 2019

Postby Squiddy » Thu Oct 31, 2019 5:21 pm

Bus Suggestions wrote:2244 back at Joondalup/Wangara.


Already posted in the depot lists a while back :P

Going by the lists, the only buses that haven't moved yet (and are due to) are 2679, 2680 and 3099 from Fremantle to Joondalup, and 2645, 2646 and 2911 from Joondalup/Wangara to somewhere South of there
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Re: PTA / Transperth & Private Observations - 2019

Postby Zidanehartono » Fri Nov 01, 2019 6:16 pm

TP1683 had its Pigeon Project AOA stripped off and is back in the corporate livery.
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Re: PTA / Transperth & Private Observations - 2019

Postby Bus-1809 » Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:26 pm

Got an interesting one here... We know that 2568, 2569 and 2570, as well as 2572 and 2573 are at Canning Vale... 2571 however, was sighted by myself, running 407's last week... Is this one perhaps at Trigg, or maybe still at Shenton Park or Mt. Claremont?

Speaking of Mt. Claremont, I was told that the original allocation to there was supposed to be O405NH's and B8 Artics, with Shenton Park becoming a fully B7 depot. This doesn't seem to be the case, as Shenton Park has copious amounts of NH's in the depot and not a lot of B7's.
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Re: PTA / Transperth & Private Observations - 2019

Postby Bus Suggestions » Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:55 pm

2571 is indeed at Karrinyup/Trigg, rode it on a 387 and was discussed in the depot listing thread about a week back.
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Re: PTA / Transperth & Private Observations - 2019

Postby Squiddy » Sun Nov 03, 2019 7:01 pm

Bus-1809 wrote:Got an interesting one here... We know that 2568, 2569 and 2570, as well as 2572 and 2573 are at Canning Vale... 2571 however, was sighted by myself, running 407's last week... Is this one perhaps at Trigg, or maybe still at Shenton Park or Mt. Claremont?

Speaking of Mt. Claremont, I was told that the original allocation to there was supposed to be O405NH's and B8 Artics, with Shenton Park becoming a fully B7 depot. This doesn't seem to be the case, as Shenton Park has copious amounts of NH's in the depot and not a lot of B7's.


Mount Claremont has always been the fully Volvo Depot.

Current allocations as far as I know:

Shenton Park:

1340-1351, 1354
1552-1563, 1565, 1569-1571
2574-85, 2590-97

Mount Claremont:

2598-2813, 2831-2839
All artics (3014, 3019, 23, 37, 40, 43, 46, 49, 70, 79, 100-102)

Additionally, it seems the current new B7/B8 deliveries are going to Mount Claremont, which in turn displaces a 259x to Shenton Park, which then kills off a NH.
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Re: PTA / Transperth & Private Observations - 2019

Postby Leyland B21 » Sun Nov 03, 2019 7:29 pm

To be honest. I'm baffled at the 1.5km to 2km distance between Mt Claremont and Shenton Park Depot's

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Re: PTA / Transperth & Private Observations - 2019

Postby Bus-1809 » Mon Nov 04, 2019 10:54 pm

It's because of the land, or lack thereof, as to why Mt. Claremont and Shenton Park are separate depots.

1791 is having an overnight visit to Welshpool. It was changed off, so obviously has failed. Not sure what WP Bus is seeking residence at Malaga for the evening.
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Re: PTA / Transperth & Private Observations - 2019

Postby Zidanehartono » Tue Nov 05, 2019 8:46 am

Bus-1809 wrote:1791 is having an overnight visit to Welshpool. It was changed off, so obviously has failed. Not sure what WP Bus is seeking residence at Malaga for the evening.


Might be because of 1370 which suffered a coolant leak yesterday and not to mention that 2370 also had an overnight visit too.
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Re: PTA / Transperth & Private Observations - 2019

Postby Woolies_truck » Tue Nov 05, 2019 2:23 pm

B8’s 2840 and 2841 delivered to mount Claremont depot.
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Re: PTA / Transperth & Private Observations - 2019

Postby Zidanehartono » Tue Nov 05, 2019 8:25 pm

The following buses for today's 698 Ascot Specials are:

2009
1527
2012
1883
1724
1725
1919
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Re: PTA / Transperth & Private Observations - 2019

Postby Squiddy » Wed Nov 06, 2019 6:21 pm

1978 is back from refurb, the last one for Rockingham.
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Re: PTA / Transperth & Private Observations - 2019

Postby Bus-1809 » Thu Nov 07, 2019 12:05 am

Zidanehartono wrote:Might be because of 1370 which suffered a coolant leak yesterday and not to mention that 2370 also had an overnight visit too.


1791 was on defect road at WP, so it would have been the unit that failed. 2370 is also a Redcliffe bus.
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Re: PTA / Transperth & Private Observations - 2019

Postby Squiddy » Thu Nov 07, 2019 5:11 pm

Freo artic 3093 is on holiday in Rockingham today
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Re: PTA / Transperth & Private Observations - 2019

Postby sylar » Thu Nov 07, 2019 7:41 pm

Squiddy wrote:Freo artic 3093 is on holiday in Rockingham today


yeah i was aboard it this morning while it was operating the 565..... is it on loan or possibly been moved ?

While i'm at it does anyone know where new deliveries 2952+ and 2773+ have ended up at ?
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Re: PTA / Transperth & Private Observations - 2019

Postby Squiddy » Thu Nov 07, 2019 8:48 pm

sylar wrote:
Squiddy wrote:Freo artic 3093 is on holiday in Rockingham today


yeah i was aboard it this morning while it was operating the 565..... is it on loan or possibly been moved ?

While i'm at it does anyone know where new deliveries 2952+ and 2773+ have ended up at ?


On loan, 3048 is the only artic I didn't see in Rockingham today so presumably that's carked it up in Freo at some point and got changed off

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2959-64 Fremantle (2960+ are all B8s)

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Re: PTA / Transperth & Private Observations - 2019

Postby TP1462 » Fri Nov 08, 2019 8:14 pm

For those interested the 19:00, 19:16 & 19:30 from Armadale are running CE to Perth skipping Claisebrook & McIver stations

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Re: PTA / Transperth & Private Observations - 2019

Postby Squiddy » Sat Nov 09, 2019 1:21 pm

Haven't really been keeping up with Welshpool refurbs because they're going through them so quick, but I saw 1392 freshly refurbished yesterday.
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Re: PTA / Transperth & Private Observations - 2019

Postby Squiddy » Mon Nov 11, 2019 6:45 pm

2015 back from refurb

1548 has returned from the grave and has joined 1550 in the Canning Vale area
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Re: PTA / Transperth & Private Observations - 2019

Postby Zidanehartono » Wed Nov 13, 2019 4:59 pm

B-series 89, 92 and i think 115 was seen on the Armadale Line today.
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Re: PTA / Transperth & Private Observations - 2019

Postby TP1462 » Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:51 pm

Noticed a significant increase in B series operation on the heritage lines today apart of the scheduled 2 on Freo midland another 3 are in operation on Armadale/Thornlie as some as well some 2cars which are usually scheduled as 4cars are the A sets becoming that unreliable that a large volume are being taken off traffic at any one time? I know about scheduled maintenance at CRD & NRD now this also begs the question how much longer until the A sets are just used for peak hour and special events services only and Bs running off peak, nights and weekends on the heritage lines? Or are B sets just getting preference over As in the timetables?
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Re: PTA / Transperth & Private Observations - 2019

Postby Squiddy » Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:01 pm

TP1462 wrote:this also begs the question how much longer until the A sets are just used for peak hour and special events services only and Bs running off peak, nights and weekends on the heritage lines?


Do we even have enough surplus B-sets for this to even be possible before the C-series trains start rolling out? (ignoring the Forrestfield link opening in 18 months)

Seeing B-sets on the heritage lines is pretty common these days, it's hardly a notable occurrence. We have more B-sets available than are needed at the moment on the Mandurah/Joondi lines, so why not use them on the heritage lines
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Re: PTA / Transperth & Private Observations - 2019

Postby TP1462 » Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:48 pm

Yea did mention on the original post that B sets are used on the heritage however 5 seemed like an unusually high number so hence the original post about the As & reliability we do have enough B series for nights and weekend usage this has been done before but off peak A set replacement would still be a number of years away at least until the first batch of C sets are in service
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Re: PTA / Transperth & Private Observations - 2019

Postby Merc1107 » Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:51 pm

The surplus units we presently have mean they'll effectively have additional spares, until the number of railcars needed for peak service increases, I'm sure they'll use these spares to their advantage, for whatever purpose that might be.

There are usually some Bs out at night on the heritage lines.
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