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2019 !! Lets do this.
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Oh yeah, 2018 is over already :O
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B-series 115 was seen operating the Thornlie Line today.
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Sets 10&11 both in service today following refurb
10/36 Thornlie
11/unknown on Midland
16 should be in refurb in the next few days or weeks maybe unless it's already gone in
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I am wondering how much of the train network is fully step-free accessible, line by line - that's both level access from the platform to the train and accessible access (ramp or lift) between the street and the platform? The Transperth website is not entirely clear. I wish they used little wheelchair pictograms beside station names on the timetables to make this information easy to discover.
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tonyp wrote:I am wondering how much of the train network is fully step-free accessible, line by line - that's both level access from the platform to the train and accessible access (ramp or lift) between the street and the platform? The Transperth website is not entirely clear. I wish they used little wheelchair pictograms beside station names on the timetables to make this information easy to discover.
I'm pretty sure every platform is wheelchair-accessible from the street, via ramp or lift. Some are better than others, but wheelchair users shouldn't have any issues at any station.
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Squiddy wrote:
I'm pretty sure every platform is wheelchair-accessible from the street, via ramp or lift. Some are better than others, but wheelchair users shouldn't have any issues at any station.
Then the stations missing from this list below have a non-wheelchair comliant gap between the platform and train door? I am surprised that not every station of the north-south line is listed here. I would have thought that they had addressed this at the time of design and contruction of this modern line.

https://www.transperth.wa.gov.au/Using- ... essibility
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Leederville, and some stations on the heritage lines may have “step-free” access, but the overpass ramp gradients to the platforms perhaps are not compliant for these stations?

Almost every station has level boarding platform to train with only a few stations having a larger gap than normal or a height discrepancy. It may just be the street to platform access that lags at most of the stations not mentioned on that list. Either way, roaming CSO’s typically assist passengers on the few journeys that can’t be made indepdently.
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Yes it's possible that some legacy stations fitted with older ramps built to different standards prior to the DDA may not comply with current gradient standards and would thus not make the Transport list of accessible stations. I would have thought however that the entire north-south line would have been built compliant, yet some stations like Joondalup don't make it to that Transperth list. Odd.
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Actually Joondalup is on that list but I don't think it is up to date. For example, Aubin Grove is not on it.

Without knowing how they define an accessible station, it's possible that their definition is quite stringent. I wonder how tactile tiling, colourings/markings etc come into play. Many more stations than on that list are definitely accessible by wheelchairs for example, however, it could be a different story for vision impaired people who would rely much more on tactile markings to aid their boarding process.
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Swan Transit Midvale based Volvo B7RLE No. 1483 was sighted at Swan Transit Bunbury depot today. I know why, but can't say anything at the moment.
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Bus-1809 wrote:Swan Transit Midvale based Volvo B7RLE No. 1483 was sighted at Swan Transit Bunbury depot today. I know why, but can't say anything at the moment.
Given that this particular bus is recorded on perthbus.info (and has a matching shot) as belonging to TransBunbury, I think it's fairly obvious why it's there. Older B7s going regional, presumably replacing the older NHs and other miscellaneous buses that are located down that way.
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Pretty much along the lines, Squiddy... Early Swan B7's to Bunno and Diesel OC's supposedly to Geraldton to replace Early NH's. Don't quote me on that, though.
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Bus-1809 wrote:Pretty much along the lines, Squiddy... Early Swan B7's to Bunno and Diesel OC's supposedly to Geraldton to replace Early NH's.
I'm interested to see what happens with the older NHs once they're replaced. I suppose they'd probably make their way back here in the meantime to cover the deficit until they're replaced by newbies? Would be nice to see some older NHs around, even if it is only temporarily!

Just a bit of speculation, it's been too quiet around here lately.
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1683 has new AOA for 'the pigeon project.com'

1962 has been refurbished
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ADAMS just had an additional bus by BCI Citirider 8 as B95, serving in Rottnest Island.
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1370 has been refurbished
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To summarise my last few days of observations:

1312, 1539, 1736, 1737, 1740, 1745, 1746 and two more unidentified NHs all on Fremantle Wharf being shipped off to their new homes over East

1324, 1325, 1533, 1534, 1542, 1543 all being stored at Canning Vale Depot. All of them are still plated except 1533.

Newbies 2930, 2931 and 2933 (and presumably 2932, but I didn't see it) are all at Volvo's workshop
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Saw "White desto" TP2569 doing 100 this afternoon, so along with TP2568, on loan to which Swan Transit depot?
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Zidanehartono wrote:Saw "White desto" TP2569 doing 100 this afternoon, so along with TP2568, on loan to which Swan Transit depot?
2568 is now at canningvale
100&101 Now at welshpool
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1889 Refurbished
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TP1649 has been fitted with DTI CCTV's. Are there any buses having the same thing as well?
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2568 and 2569 have been moved to Canning Vale in a swap for 3070 and 3079, which now live at Shenton Park. 3049 has also been moved to Shenton Park from Beckenham, 3088 and 3086 have also been moved to Bayswater from Welshpool, all of these are for extra capacity on 950s.

2930 delivered to Rockingham, 2931 is in Mandurah

1890 and 1963 have also been refurbished
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3001 was seen getting a work out on the 950 today
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RCCTS1 (aka RAT1, Dolphin 1, etc.) is back from refurb

2932 and 2934 are at Freo
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