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Postby a350a380 » Thu Jul 13, 2017 8:57 am

Hi All,

I'm hopeufullt visiting Perth next month.

I'm potentially going to visit on a friday and 2 weekend days.

I'm after riding a remaining Renault and 1053 amongst other more common low floor types which I should imagine won't be a problem at weekends.

Your responses woukd be greatly appreciated!

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Re: High floors in service

Postby Bus Suggestions » Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:28 pm

http://www.perthbus.info Fleetlists is your friend! :D According to this site there are 25 PR180.2s (Renault articulated) in Perth left in service and O405 #1053 in Busselton.
If you have time, visit BPSWA, they have 2 Mercedes O305s in preservation, ex-MTT/TP #171 & #339. They also have an O405 ex-TP #1048, preserved privately by a BPSWA member, and Renault PR100.2 ex-TP #647, privately preserved by a member of BPSWA, known on this board as High Floor Bus.

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Re: High floors in service

Postby PoweredByCNG » Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:06 pm

1053 is finished - withdrawn from Busselton a several weeks back and transferred to Perth, where it sat at the rear of Swan Transit Canning Vale depot until its one-way trip to the paint shop about a week ago. As for Renault artics, there are really only about 20 left in service. Some units listed on the fleet lists are in various states of disrepair. As for preserved buses, there are FAR more than just 1048 and 647 in private hands...
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Re: High floors in service

Postby Off The Rails » Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:37 pm

1053 no longer in service - was sighted being repainted at a paint shop in Hazelmere last week.
Also, only 16 PR180.2's are left (2 with Swan, 4 with Path and 8 at Transdev).

In regards of trying to get a Renault, your best bet is Mandurah Stn, sometime after 3pm, as 6 of Transdev's go off to do school runs, with some possibly doing normal runs after. You won't find them out on weekends.

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Re: High floors in service

Postby Bus Suggestions » Thu Jul 13, 2017 5:04 pm

PoweredByCNG wrote:As for preserved buses, there are FAR more than just 1048 and 647 in private hands...

I already stated BPSWA has the 2 preserved O305s, and now I will mention it has around 38 more in running order. And yes, I know there are some more privately preserved buses around the place, but I stated
I wrote:They also have an O405 ex-TP #1048, preserved privately by a BPSWA member, and Renault PR100.2 ex-TP #647, privately preserved by a member of BPSWA


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Re: High floors in service

Postby a350a380 » Thu Jul 13, 2017 7:00 pm

Thanks for the feedback it is much appreciated.

Based on this I think I'll just go on the weekend.

I have one question though, am I correct on assuming there are plenty of O405NH all Voith, B8RLE, B8RLEA and gas fueled types running at weekends?

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Re: High floors in service

Postby Bus Suggestions » Thu Jul 13, 2017 8:27 pm

a350a380 wrote:Thanks for the feedback it is much appreciated.

Based on this I think I'll just go on the weekend.

I have one question though, am I correct on assuming there are plenty of O405NH all Voith, B8RLE, B8RLEA and gas fueled types running at weekends?

Thanks again

Yes there are a few NHs running around on weekends. For B8RLE action, head to the centre of Perth as all of them (I believe 26 now) are utilised on Perth CATs. For B8RLEA action on a weekend, schedule your visit so that a train line is closed, as on weekends, they are generally utilised on rail replacement. OC500LE gassies are up and running and are undergoing mid-life refurbs a few at a time. Speaking of gassies, if you manage to go on the Perth CATs, try and get on one of the last remaining OC500LE CNG midis before they are refurbed, repainted and cascaded over to Path Transit Malaga.
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Re: High floors in service

Postby PoweredByCNG » Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:20 pm

Just bear in mind that as easy as the remaining Renault artics are to find on weekdays, they are generally not used at all on weekends.

You'll also find that all of the private preservationists are members of the BPSWA and the private collection now extends to over THIRTY buses.
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Re: High floors in service

Postby Mr OC Benz » Fri Jul 14, 2017 1:23 pm

To save yourself some time, these are the best areas (guaranteed) to find the types you are after:
Mercedes-Benz O405NH - Claremont area (routes 24, 25, 102, 103, 107 etc) and Route 950, plus many others scattered around the rest of Perth
Mercedes-Benz O405NH CNG - On weekdays, try the Fremantle and Morley areas. On weekends, you won't find any around Fremantle, but you can try for some in the Morley area (services in and out of Morley and Mirrabooka bus stations).
Mercedes-Benz OC500LE CNG - Marmion area which covers routes to inner north areas such as Glendalough, Stirling, Warwick (routes in the range of 400-447, 990), Southern River area which covers routes around Gosnells, Kelmscott and Armadale (routes in the range of 220-254) and the Fremantle and Rockingham areas covering locations to the west of train stations along the Mandurah Line.
Volvo B7RLE - Midland area (routes in the range of 300-337), Canning area covering places such as Canning Bridge, Bull Creek, Murdoch, Cannington (routes in the range of 204-212, 506-509, 515-519, 527, 537)
Volvo B8RLE - Central Perth (Perth CAT routes)
Volvo B8RLEA - Can be sporadic on weekends, but try routes 501, 507, 910, 950, 998, 999, or if there are any special events or train replacement on, such as AFL, they will be operating those special routes (numbered in 600 range). On weekdays, you should be able to find them at most major bus stations in peak periods.
Volvo B12BLEA - Can also be sporadic on weekends, but try routes 549, 558, 990, or if there are any special events or train replacement on, such as AFL, they will be operating those special routes (numbered in 600 range). On weekdays, you should be able to find them if you hang around Midland or Rockingham or services in the Belmont or Kalamunda area in peak periods.
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Re: High floors in service

Postby Shoudy Chen » Fri Jul 14, 2017 4:16 pm

Off The Rails wrote:Also, only 16 PR180.2's are left (2 with Swan, 4 with Path and 8 at Transdev).


Well most of the white Renault Articulated buses have retired from the bus fleet but what rego numbers of the PR180.2 buses were still remaining in fleet?
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Re: High floors in service

Postby actually » Sat Jul 15, 2017 3:46 pm

Mr OC Benz wrote:To save yourself some time, these are the best areas (guaranteed) to find the types you are after:
Mercedes-Benz O405NH - Claremont area (routes 24, 25, 102, 103, 107 etc) and Route 950, plus many others scattered around the rest of Perth
Mercedes-Benz O405NH CNG - On weekdays, try the Fremantle and Morley areas. On weekends, you won't find any around Fremantle, but you can try for some in the Morley area (services in and out of Morley and Mirrabooka bus stations).
Mercedes-Benz OC500LE CNG - Marmion area which covers routes to inner north areas such as Glendalough, Stirling, Warwick (routes in the range of 400-447, 990), Southern River area which covers routes around Gosnells, Kelmscott and Armadale (routes in the range of 220-254) and the Fremantle and Rockingham areas covering locations to the west of train stations along the Mandurah Line.
Volvo B7RLE - Midland area (routes in the range of 300-337), Canning area covering places such as Canning Bridge, Bull Creek, Murdoch, Cannington (routes in the range of 204-212, 506-509, 515-519, 527, 537)
Volvo B8RLE - Central Perth (Perth CAT routes)


Volvo B8RLEA - Can be sporadic on weekends, but try routes 501, 507, 910, 950, 998, 999, or if there are any special events or train replacement on, such as AFL, they will be operating those special routes (numbered in 600 range). On weekdays, you should be able to find them at most major bus stations in peak periods.
Volvo B12BLEA - Can also be sporadic on weekends, but try routes 549, 558, 990, or if there are any special events or train replacement on, such as AFL, they will be operating those special routes (numbered in 600 range). On weekdays, you should be able to find them if you hang around Midland or Rockingham or services in the Belmont or Kalamunda area in peak periods.



The Merc 0405NH gas are not normally used on weekends around Morley/Mirrabooka either. Some OC gas and Volvos.
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Re: High floors in service

Postby Off The Rails » Sun Jul 16, 2017 12:06 am

Shoudy Chen wrote:
Off The Rails wrote:Also, only 16 PR180.2's are left (2 with Swan, 4 with Path and 8 at Transdev).


Well most of the white Renault Articulated buses have retired from the bus fleet but what rego numbers of the PR180.2 buses were still remaining in fleet?

Swan: 709 & 718
Path: 711, 727, 745 & 754
Transdev: 721, 722, 732, 747, 751, 752, 755 & 756

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Re: High floors in service

Postby a350a380 » Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:56 am

Thanks for all the responses. Much appreciated. I'm going for the weekend so will make the most of what I see. I take it O405nh gas at weekends will be an absolute rarity. The O405nh is what I'm after mainly because elsewhere in Australia they all seem to be zf.

Finally, I guess the dennis darts are history now too.
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Re: High floors in service

Postby Bus Suggestions » Sun Jul 16, 2017 2:55 pm

2nd time being withdrawn from service (Darts PATH001 and PATH002) were somewhere in 2010
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