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PaxInfo wrote:If these patterns were to be replicated in Perth, I would expect:
1. Rockingham/Mandurah to have nearly as much patronage on Sundays as Saturday being coastal areas with Sunday trading. Maybe Hillarys routes also?
2. Areas around Curtin (where there are many o/s students) having higher than average weekend patronage
3. Outer homebuyer type areas eg outer parts of Joondalup line and Ellenbrook to have low weekend : weekday patronage ratio (you almost need two incomes to buy a house and that may imply two cars with dispersed employment patterns so people will be driving on weekends too)
4. Lower income areas eg Mirrabooka, Belmont or Midland to have high all day patronage including good weekend usage
5. Direct circumferential routes that feed two or more train lines such as Fremantle - Mandurah - Armadale to do well on all days (and possibly also routes like Warwick - Mirrabooka or Morley in the north). Once you get these up to every 15 min Mon - Sun you have something approaching a versatile network in all directions.
6. The Circle Route to have high weekend patronage (like the populated parts of the orbitals do in Melbourne)
7. Short infrequent sometimes circular routes that only serve one station not to carry many (though their boardings per km might be OK)
8. The 900 series to have high usage all days of the week (being similar corridors to trams in Melbourne)
Mr OC Benz wrote:The weekend:weekday ratio in Ellenbrook is certainly significant given the strong commuter flow in the peak periods, but the services are still well utilised on the weekends given the frequency and span of hours. I'd also say it's one of a handful of examples where patronage Saturday vs Sunday is very similar.
TP1173 wrote:I'd like to see the Government and PTA do a month long trial, where for every weekend in a month, they operate weekend services to a weekday timetable (minus the peak, school and uni services). While it would probably take longer than a month for people to catch on and adjust their habits, a month is a reasonable period of time that can be justified for a trial.
Perhaps the point of the earlier suggestion of a trial of better frequency was not specific to routes that are already relatively frequent outside of peak. Its the suburban feeders that are essentially useless outside of peak periods - unless you intricately plan your journey from A to B to prevent significant waiting periods.PaxInfo wrote:For the best chance of success I'd go for a longer trial period on selected routes only. Routes to pick might include those that (a) already have a well used 15 min service on weekdays (b) serve a catchment with good all-day patronage characteristics - eg serve areas with low car ownership, denser populations, more students, major shopping centres etc (c) have a fairly direct service with a lot of unique catchment.
Mr OC Benz wrote:There was some news on it a few years back, possibly in this forum. Don't think they could sustain the costs for the number of passengers they were getting from memory. Try Integrity Coachlines. I think they extended their Port Hedland service to Broome when Greyhound pulled out. Their coastal route from Perth to Broome departs on Tuesday and Thursday nights.
tonyp wrote:Interesting to see the RAC supporting this rail project as first priority.
I see the Minister has announced that planning will resume on the light rail line. My earnest advice from east coast experience is that PTA WA take advantage of its huge talents and skill itself up to run this project itself, as DoT in Queensland did with Gold Coast light rail, leading to an excellent result. The NSW consultant/consortium/manufacturer-led approach is a recipe for disaster.
Ms Saffioti said the Metronet timeline had not slipped since Labor took power and work would start in this first term of government on planning and costing a light-rail system. She said a route between Curtin University in Bentley and the University of WA in Crawley, potentially linking North Perth and Subiaco, had support.
No, its still in repairs.sylar wrote:Has 3030 been repaired and put back into service ? I regularly see Kalamunda's other B12 Artics 3005, 3010, 3011, 3016, 3031 and 3032 running in and out of Perth but still haven't seen the return of 3030
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