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Transperth Service Changes - 2017

Postby wachris » Wed Dec 21, 2016 11:30 pm

Changes in January 2017

Routes 23, 24, 25, 27, 103, 310, 344, 346, 347, 371, 384, 385, 386, 387, 388, 389, 463, 480, 481, 490, 491, 508, 509, 518, 519, 527, 567, 568, 593, 594, 598, 990, 998 and 999 - Service Changes

Sun 29 Jan
From Sunday 29 January 2017, routes 23, 24, 25, 27, 103, 310, 344, 346, 347, 371, 384, 385, 386, 387, 388, 389, 463, 480, 481, 490, 491, 508, 509, 518, 519, 527, 567, 568, 593, 594, 598, 990, 998 and 999 will undergo changes.

Services will change as follows:

A number of school specials will undergo changes
Routes 25, 27, 310, 344, 346, 347, 371, 384, 385, 386, 387, 388, 389, 480, 490, 491, 508, 509, 527, 567, 568, 598, 998 and 999 will undergo time changes only
Routes 24, 463, 518, 519, 593, 594 and 990 will undergo time changes and operate with additional services
Route 518 will also undergo a minor route change now servicing Cockburn Gateways Shopping Centre
Route 519 will also have some services extend to Riva Ent during peak periods
Routes 23, 103 (short services) and 481 will undergo time changes and operate with less services due to poor patronage.
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Re: Transperth Service Changes - 2017

Postby Mr OC Benz » Sun Jan 01, 2017 12:49 pm

Happy New Year! As posted above, next lot of major service changes commencing 29 January.

Moderator note for posters in this thread:
  • Use this thread primarily for posting and discussing the relevant service changes taking place in 2017.
  • Please limit the service changes posted to those which are considered major (e.g route changes, timetable changes, new/deleted routes, consultations etc are ok, but minor changes such as bus stop deletion, school special changes, deviations etc are generally not discussion worthy and shouldn't be posted just for the sake of posting).
  • This thread isn't intended to just be a copy of the service changes which are already publicly viewable on the Transperth website, however major service changes are encouraged to be posted and discussed in this thread. Popular topics will be split into separate threads if necessary.
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Re: Transperth Service Changes - 2017

Postby Bus Suggestions » Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:52 pm

Transperth Website wrote:Route 935 - Service Changes

Sun 15 Jan
From Sunday 15 January 2017, there will be changes to Route 935 as a result of the permanent closure of Brearley Av.

Access to Perth Airport will change and services will no longer travel on Brearley Av.

The following bus stops will be withdrawn:

Stop 25528: Brearley Av after Second St
Stop 27261: Kanowna Av after Second St
Stop 25529: Brearley Av before Second St.
Route 935 will now service the following stop:

Stop 15574: Second St after Kanowna Av.
​If you require further assistance regarding service changes or planning your journey, please visit the Transperth website or call the Transperth InfoLine on 13 62 13 (TIS: 13 14 50). Hearing or speech impaired? Call via NRS 133 677 and ask for 13 62 13.


Of course, not that unexpected considering Brearley Ave will be closed for FAL
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Re: Transperth Service Changes - 2017

Postby busdriver12 » Sat Jan 14, 2017 2:53 pm

PDF's up for 29 Jan changes with the exception of Timetable 200 (998/999) and Timetable 206 (990).
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Re: Transperth Service Changes - 2017

Postby wachris » Sun Jan 22, 2017 2:37 pm

Date for opening of Aubin Grove station and feeder bus services. (From PTA website)

Mark Sunday, April 23 in the calendar – Aubin Grove Station will be open for use. In the lead-up to the opening day, work will be underway to install and test the final parts of the systems required to run the passenger rail network.

In the meantime check out some recent photos taken on site, or read the lastest Project Update.



When open, the communities around Aubin Grove Station can enjoy using the multi-modal station, which includes:

• Six bus feeder services into Cockburn and Aubin Grove stations
• Bicycle facilities for more than 80 bikes and connections to local paths
• Passenger amenities, including toilets, lifts, stairs and escalators
• Kiosk and ATM in the western building
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Re: Transperth Service Changes - 2017

Postby Mr OC Benz » Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:25 pm

It'll only of been 3 weeks since the new timetables, and routes 24, 25, 27, 28 and 103 have further time changes coming from 19 February. Online timetable hasn't been updated yet, but it would seem based on the stop changes, that the 24 will travel via Adelaide Tce, Plain St and Riverside Dr to access the new terminus within the On the Point precinct at Point Fraser.

Transperth website wrote:
Routes 24, 25, 27, 28 and 103 Service Changes

Sun 19 Feb

From Sunday 19 February 2017, following the completion of works at Point Fraser, Route 24 will undergo a route change to terminate at Point Fraser in East Perth

Route 24 will also undergo time changes and will run two additional weekday trips.

The following stops will no longer be served by buses heading to East Perth:
Stop 10137 Adelaide Tce before Plain St
Stop 10139 Adelaide Tce at WA Police Headquarters
Stop 22973 Hale St (WACA Ground Terminus).
The following stop will now be served by buses heading to East Perth:

Stop 27586 On the Point (Point Fraser Terminus).
The following stops will no longer be served by buses heading to Claremont:

Stop 22973 Hale St (WACA Ground Terminus)
Stop 16906 Hay St after Plain St
Stop 16907 Hay St after Bennett St
Stop 16908 Hay St before Hill St.
The following stops will now be served by buses heading to Claremont:

Stop 27586 On the Point (Point Fraser Terminus)
Stop 10072 Adelaide Tce after Plain St
Stop 10073 Adelaide Tce after Bennett St.
Routes 25, 27, 28 and 103 will undergo minor time changes as follows to accommodate changes to Route 24:

Routes 25, 27 and 28 will undergo time changes on Saturdays
Route 103 will undergo time changes on weeknights and Saturdays.
​If you require further assistance regarding service changes or planning your journey, please call the Transperth InfoLine on 13 62 13 (TIS: 13 14 50). Hearing or speech impaired? Call via NRS 133 677 and ask for 13 62 13.

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Re: Transperth Service Changes - 2017

Postby the c man » Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:27 pm

Sunday march 5. Route 41 will no longer continue services at maylands station
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Re: Transperth Service Changes - 2017

Postby wachris » Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:47 pm

Some more changes including major 201 change. Surprised the 406 connection hasn't occurred.
Sun 05 Mar
From Sunday 5 March 2017 the following changes will occur:
Routes 38, 42, 48, 55, 202, 203, 282, 283, 284, 279, 294, 360, 361, 362 and 960 will undergo time changes only
Route 41 will undergo time changes and no longer serve Maylands Station
Routes 39 and 291 will undergo time changes with a small reduction in the number of services
Route 201 will undergo time changes and a major route change
Route 201 will operate from Cannington Station to Curtin University Bus Station via Bentley Health Service and Bentley Plaza Shopping Centre
Route 201 will run on a three month trial and will require consistent and well supported patronage to continue
Route 201 will run five trips in each direction on weekdays
Passengers travelling between Cannington Station and Westfield Carousel Shopping Centre should catch any of routes 34, 72, 100, 202, 203, 206, 208, 229, 294, 507, 508 and 509 which provide a high frequency connection.
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Re: Transperth Service Changes - 2017

Postby Mr OC Benz » Thu Feb 02, 2017 7:30 pm

I'm a little surprised with the withdrawal of the 41 deviations. I would've thought they'd still try and push it, especially since they were proposing to introduce extra services. I believe there were concerns with buses running down the cafe strip on Eighth Ave. There are also community concerns with the proposed routing of the 406 to get to Maylands. Doesn't appear there's any rush to resolve these and implement the extension.

I believe residents in the Bentley area have been lobbying for a cross-suburb suburb service to link up to the hospital for a while now. At the moment, the highway and bus network in the area inhibits access and the only way by bus is via Cannington anyway. Even access to the local shops at Bentley Plaza is not easy from nearby suburbs unless you live along Albany Hwy. Three months trial seems a bit short and I see another east-west link being a good thing, but I can't see it gaining traction somehow. I suspect there isn't the population catchment and travel demand to support it.
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Re: Transperth Service Changes - 2017

Postby PaxInfo » Thu Feb 02, 2017 7:52 pm

Mr OC Benz wrote:I believe residents in the Bentley area have been lobbying for a cross-suburb suburb service to link up to the hospital for a while now.


We used to have the 180 (via hospital iirc) and 181 (not via hospital) 20+ years ago between Karawarra & Cannington. It didn't get that many people on it.

It wouldn't help the hospital but was thinking about whether a short route from Welshpool Station to Karawarra student housing via Brownlie Towers would work.

Or extending it to Wilson would provide a bus/train connection but the area already has direct bus access to town and it may not be far enough out enough to make the bus/train option faster.

Also Dumond St has the 170 series to East Vic Park which is only a 10 - 15 min trip. Does La Plaza have anything that you can't get in Vic Park?

The western part of Bentley however has only small local shops and for years had poor access to bigger shopping centres and even East Vic Park as the 72 did more of Berwick St than Albany Hwy.
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Re: Transperth Service Changes - 2017

Postby Bus Suggestions » Mon Feb 20, 2017 8:55 pm

Transperth Website wrote:Route 107 – Route Change (North Fremantle)

Sun 19 Feb
From Sunday 19 February 2017, Route 107 will return to its long term route and will travel along Harvest Rd, Rule St and Alfred Rd in North Fremantle.

The following bus stops will be removed:

10793 - Alfred Rd after Rule St
10796 - Alfred Rd after Thompson Rd
10798 - Rule St after Ainslie Rd
10800 - Rule St before Letitia Rd
10802 - Harvest Rd after Herbert St.
If you require further assistance regarding service disruptions or planning your journey, please call the Transperth InfoLine on 13 62 13 (TIS: 13 14 50). Hearing or speech impaired? Call via NRS 133 677 and ask for 13 62 13.


Transperth Website wrote:School Special 772 - Service Changes

Tue 07 Mar
From Tuesday 7 March 2017, there will be time changes to School Special 772 from Ballajura servicing Mercy College and John Septimus Roe Anglican Community School.
School Special 772 will undergo time changes to improve reliability and efficiency. The service will depart earlier and arrive earlier at Mercy College.

School Special 772 will run at the following times:

Departing Bellefin Dr after Badgingarra Gdns at 7.54am
Via Mercy College at 8.23am
Arriving at Mirrabooka Ave after Boyare Ave (John Septimus Roe) at 8.29am
There will be no change to the route taken.


Transperth Website wrote:Changes to routes 334 and 335 and the introduction of new School Special 750

Mon 20 Feb
From Monday 20 February 2017, the following services will be introduced serving La Salle College and Swan Christian College in response to high patronage on the Route 335 service at school times.

Morning Services
The existing Route 334 service arriving at The Shops at Ellenbrook at 7.14am will now continue as new School Special 750 departing at 7.16am
School Special 750 will depart from Ellenbrook Central at 7.16am travelling via Dayton to Swan Christian College and continuing to La Salle College arriving at 8.04am
Students traveling to La Salle College or Swan Christian College from Coolamon Estate are encouraged to use the new Route 750 bus service. Students from Woodlake Estate should continue to use the existing Route 335
Route 335 will remain unchanged departing Ellenbrook Central at 7:16am, travelling via Swan Christian College and arriving at La Salle College at 8:09am.
Afternoon Services

School Special 750 will depart from La Salle College at 3.23pm and continue to Swan Christian College departing at approximately 3:33pm travelling to Ellenbrook Central (arriving at 3.58pm) via Dayton and Ellenbrook Transfer Station
The service will then continue as an additional Route 334 at 4.00pm
Route 335 will remain unchanged departing from La Salle College at 3.34pm and travel via Swan Christian College and arrive at Ellenbrook Central at 4.23pm.
​School Special 750 will be available in the JourneyPlanner from Friday 17 February.

If you require further assistance regarding service disruptions or planning your journey, please call the Transperth InfoLine on 13 62 13 (TIS: 13 14 50). Hearing or speech impaired? Call via NRS 133 677 and ask for 13 62 13.


Transperth Website wrote:Update: Changes to Scarborough Beach Services

Mon 20 Feb
Update: this change will now occur on Monday 20 February 2017.
Due to the redevelopment works occurring at Scarborough Beach the following routes will undergo time changes and changes to their terminus.

The following services will now depart from a temporary stop on The Esplanade between Manning St and Scarborough Beach Rd West (map):

Routes 410, 412 (school deviation), 421, 422 and 990
School Special 704 to Iona Primary School
School Special 707 to HBF Stadium
School Specials 717 and 718 to Newman College
School Specials 736 and 737 to Churchlands Senior High School.
​Routes 421 and 422 and School Specials 708 (from St Hilda's Primary School) and 717 (from Newman College) will also terminate on The Esplanade between Manning St and Scarborough Beach Rd West.

All other services will terminate on West Coast Hwy between Scarborough Beach Rd West and Manning St (map).

Access to the beach will continue to be available to and from the bus stops (map).

Transferring at Scarborough Beach may not be as convenient while works are under way.

For further information about the Scarborough Beach redevelopment please visit the MRA website.


​If you require further assistance regarding service changes or planning your journey, please call the Transperth InfoLine on 13 62 13 (TIS: 13 14 50). Hearing or speech impaired? Call via NRS 133 677 and ask for 13 62 13.


Transperth Website wrote:School Special 753 (Wesley College) Service Change

Mon 13 Feb
From Monday 13 February 2017 there will be a time change to School Special 753.

School Special 753 which departs Booragoon Bus Station travelling to Wesley College will now depart Booragoon Bus Station 4 minutes earlier at 7:34am to address late running.

If you require further assistance regarding service changes or planning your journey, please visit the Transperth website or call the Transperth InfoLine on 13 62 13 (TIS: 13 14 50). Hearing or speech impaired? Call via NRS 133 677 and ask for 13 62 13.


http://www.transperth.wa.gov.au/Service-Updates/Service-Update-Details/route-107-e28093-route-change-north-fremantle-34733
http://www.transperth.wa.gov.au/Service-Updates/Service-Update-Details/school-special-772-service-changes-34989
http://www.transperth.wa.gov.au/Service-Updates/Service-Update-Details/changes-to-routes-334-and-335-and-the-introduction-of-new-school-special-750-34737
http://www.transperth.wa.gov.au/Service-Updates/Service-Update-Details/update-changes-to-scarborough-beach-services-33514
http://www.transperth.wa.gov.au/Service-Updates/Service-Update-Details/school-special-753-wesley-college-service-change-34453
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Re: Transperth Service Changes - 2017

Postby Mr OC Benz » Tue Feb 21, 2017 6:53 pm

I'm not sure whether it's necessary to post every service change that occurs. Service changes are a regular occurrence at Transperth, so it'd be a lot more useful just knowing about the more interesting/major changes rather than every minor time adjustments (such as those minor school changes you've quoted), which are highly unlikely to generate any discussion on here. Otherwise this thread will just look like a Transperth service bulletin page rather than a discussion thread. Just my personal opinion, maybe others think the contrary.
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Re: Transperth Service Changes - 2017

Postby shinjiman » Wed Feb 22, 2017 2:56 pm

wachris wrote:Some more changes including major 201 change. Surprised the 406 connection hasn't occurred.
Sun 05 Mar
From Sunday 5 March 2017 the following changes will occur:
Routes 38, 42, 48, 55, 202, 203, 282, 283, 284, 279, 294, 360, 361, 362 and 960 will undergo time changes only
Route 41 will undergo time changes and no longer serve Maylands Station
Routes 39 and 291 will undergo time changes with a small reduction in the number of services
Route 201 will undergo time changes and a major route change
Route 201 will operate from Cannington Station to Curtin University Bus Station via Bentley Health Service and Bentley Plaza Shopping Centre
Route 201 will run on a three month trial and will require consistent and well supported patronage to continue
Route 201 will run five trips in each direction on weekdays
Passengers travelling between Cannington Station and Westfield Carousel Shopping Centre should catch any of routes 34, 72, 100, 202, 203, 206, 208, 229, 294, 507, 508 and 509 which provide a high frequency connection.


The timetables were up and seen the map of the Route 201 it extends the route from Bentley Health Service along Albany Highway, Ashburton Street, Chapman Road, Walpole Street, Holder Street, Hillview Terrace, Jarrah Road, Adie Court, Hayman Road then into Curtin Uni Bus Station. This would provide more direct access from Bentley Plaza to Curtin University.
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Re: Transperth Service Changes - 2017

Postby FLOREAT 90 » Sat Mar 04, 2017 6:50 pm

Another option for the Fraser Point extension would have been to continue Routes 150 and 160 along Adelaide Tce to a RH turn at Plain St, LH turn at Riverside Dve then RH turn into Fraser Point. This removes the Hill St, Terrace Rd and Bennett St loop. The outward journey to Booragoon and Fremantle could follow the route in reverse and avoid the RH turn that the Route 24 has to make at PM peak to service the West End Causeway stop.
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Re: Transperth Service Changes - 2017

Postby Bus Suggestions » Sat Mar 18, 2017 12:43 am

Transperth Website wrote:Route 24 - Service Change

Sun 19 Mar
From Sunday 19 March 2017, Route 24 will undergo a minor route change.

This change will alleviate safety concerns for buses currently turning right onto Riverside Dr from Point Fraser.

Claremont bound services will now run from Point Fraser, turning left onto Riverside Dr, right Plain St and left onto Adelaide Tce to continue the existing route to Claremont Station.

Route 24 services to East Perth, Point Fraser are not affected.

The following bus stop will no longer be served:

10071 – Adelaide Tce after Riverside Dr
If you require further assistance regarding service changes or planning your journey, please call the Transperth InfoLine on 13 62 13 (TIS: 13 14 50). Hearing or speech impaired? Call via NRS 133 677 and ask for 13 62 13.

http://www.transperth.wa.gov.au/Service-Updates/Service-Update-Details/route-24-service-change-36289
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Re: Transperth Service Changes - 2017

Postby Mr OC Benz » Wed Mar 22, 2017 8:53 pm

Slight routing change in Byford proposed to serve the new Byford on the Scarp estate.
PTA wrote:Routes 251, 252 and 253 - Proposed Service Changes

Thu 06 Apr

Routes 251, 252 and 253 are proposed to undergo route changes resulting in improved access to bus services for Byford on the Scarp residents.

Download a map of the proposed changes.

We will be available to discuss the proposed changes as follows:

Armadale Shopping City

Thursday 6 April: 2pm until 7pm
Saturday 8 April: 9am until 1pm.
You can also email communityconsultation@pta.wa.gov.au with any feedback prior to 5.00pm on Friday 21 April. Please note you will not receive a reply to your submission.

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Re: Transperth Service Changes - 2017

Postby Mr OC Benz » Thu Mar 23, 2017 4:44 pm

Will be interesting to see the timetables. I wonder if these frequency improvements are for the off-peak such as the 525 and 526 increasing to a 30 min off-peak frequency (currently 60 mins) or whether it is just an improvement to peak frequencies to bring the feeder routes inline with the 10 min standard (which the 525 and 527 have gradually been improved to provide this frequency for the core peak).

Transperth wrote:Aubin Grove Station opens and changes to associated bus routes

Sun 23 Apr

From Sunday April 23, Aubin Grove Station will open.

The first service on Sunday will depart from Aubin Grove Station towards Perth at 10.56am.

The following changes will occur in relation to the opening of the station:

Mandurah Line

  • Services on the Mandurah Line will now stop at Aubin Grove Station, there will be no changes to the timetables for other stations on the Mandurah Line.
  • K Pattern and all stops services will stop at Aubin Grove Station, W pattern services will not service Aubin Grove Station.

Route 525
  • Will undergo a route change to operate between Cockburn Central Station and Aubin Grove Station via Baningan Av
  • Will run a higher frequency service over a longer part of the day
  • Will now deviate to Emmanuel Catholic College once before school and once after school
  • If you previously boarded this service in Hammond Park you should now catch new routes 535 or 536.

Route 526
  • Will undergo a route change to operate between Cockburn Central Station and Aubin Grove Station via Cockburn Gateway Shopping Centre and Wentworth Pde
  • Will run a higher frequency service over a longer part of the day
  • If you previously boarded this service in Hammond Park you should now catch new routes 535 or 536.

Route 527
  • Will undergo a route change to operate between Cockburn Central Station and Aubin Grove Station via Atwell
  • Will run a higher frequency service over a longer part of the day
  • If you previously boarded this service in Aubin Grove or Wandi you should now catch new Route 537.

New Route 534
  • Will run a very limited service between Aubin Grove Station and Wattleup on school days only
  • Is timed to connect with train services at Aubin Grove and operate at times suitable for students attending a wide variety of schools.

New Route 535
  • Will run between Aubin Grove Station and Hammond Park via Macquarie Bvd
  • Students travelling to Atwell College should transfer to Route 527
  • Students travelling to Emmanuel Catholic College should transfer to Route 525.

New Route 536
  • Will run between Aubin Grove Station and Hammond Park via Barfield Rd
  • Students travelling to Atwell College should transfer to Route 527
  • Students travelling to Emmanuel Catholic College should transfer to Route 525
  • Will terminate at Gaebler Road until such a time that a long term bus terminus further south can be secured.

New Route 537
  • Will operate between Aubin Grove Station and Wandi via Lyon Rd
  • Students travelling to Atwell College should transfer to Route 527
  • Students travelling to Emmanuel Catholic College should transfer to Route 525.

Updated timetables will be available closer to the opening of Aubin Grove Station.

If you require further assistance regarding service changes or planning your journey, call the Transperth InfoLine on 13 62 13 (TIS: 13 14 50). Hearing or speech impaired? Call via NRS 133 677 and ask for 13 62 13.

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Re: Transperth Service Changes - 2017

Postby theenglishguy » Thu Mar 23, 2017 10:31 pm

So routes 525, 526 and 527 are being split in half at Aubin Grove Station? That means passengers from Hammond Park or Aubin Grove will have to transfer at the new Aubin Grove Station to get to Cockburn Central or Gateway Shopping Centre?

Seems completely unnecessary to me. I understand Transperth want to ensure services are reliable and don't get stuck in traffic, but these routes are already very short. 525 and 526 are 15-20 mins long and 527 is 25-30 mins long. Splitting them up will create 6 routes that are all less than 15 mins long.

Personally, I think this is a mistake. Perth generally has a good network of feeder bus routes, but they need to do more than just connect people with railway stations. Feeder buses should join together activity centres as well, so that people can use them for local trips in addition to longer journeys to the city. Why would anyone in Hammond Park or Aubin Grove catch the bus to Cockburn Gateway after these changes are implemented? Journey times will increase significantly and it will be far more confusing for passengers. It's hard enough to convince people to use public transport in Perth as it is, adding unnecessary transfers will just make things worse. Some people may put up with the inconvenience on weekdays, but requiring transfers on weekends when services run at low frequencies is just a disaster. Even if transfers are organised so services join together, it still makes the network more complex for no valid reason.
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Re: Transperth Service Changes - 2017

Postby Mr OC Benz » Tue Mar 28, 2017 9:38 pm

More changes from 23 April:
Transperth website wrote:Routes 16, 19, 20, 34, 60, 66, 67, 68, 100, 101, 115, 150, 160, 352, 406, 450, 462, 464, 465, 469, 500, 501, 505, 510, 514 530, 532, 549, 554, 568 and 950 - Service Changes

Sun 23 Apr
From Sunday 23 April 2017 Routes 16, 19, 20, 34, 60, 66, 67, 68, 100, 101, 115, 150, 160, 352, 406, 450, 462, 464, 465, 469, 500, 501, 505, 510, 514 530, 532, 549, 554, 568 and 950 will undergo the following changes:

  • Routes 16, 20, 60, 66, 68, 100, 352, 406, 450, 462, 514, 532, 549 and 554 will undergo time changes
  • Routes 34, 101, 501 530, 568 and 950 will undergo time changes and operate with additional or extended services
  • Routes 19, 67, 115, 150, 160, 464, 465 and 469, 500, 505 and 510 will undergo time changes and operate with fewer services due to poor patronage.

Updated timetables will be available two weeks prior to the change.

​If you require further assistance regarding service changes or planning your journey, call the Transperth InfoLine on 13 62 13 (TIS: 13 14 50). Hearing or speech impaired? Call via NRS 133 677 and ask for 13 62 13.

This is basically a "robbing Peter to pay Paul" exercise. Understandable given the current economic climate, slowed growth and funding. 7-8 years of funding for service expansion was a good innings though!

I wonder where these additional services will be placed? Presumably mostly to boost peak services, but I hope in the case of the 950, it'll be for improvements to off-peak/weekend and night services which are regularly busy. I guess time will tell!
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Re: Transperth Service Changes - 2017

Postby Merc1107 » Tue Mar 28, 2017 9:55 pm

If the 115 is going to a 30min frequency on weekdays as a rumour I'm hearing suggests, then I do hope someone decides to alter the timetabling of the 114 (to Munster) so as to retain 15min frequency from the City to Booragoon Bus Station.
As it stands, the two routes often leave Elizabeth Quay together, or two minutes apart - considering both share an identical routing to Booragoon, it seems a bit pointless.

Will spare the pontificating about the 115, but I know I'm not the only one who thinks "poor patronage" isn't quite accurate.
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Re: Transperth Service Changes - 2017

Postby esperanceguy » Tue Mar 28, 2017 10:09 pm

Route 67 being downsized owing to "poor patronage", seriously???
Does that mean some 950 services will do a reverse switcheroo on the old 67 extension via Broun/Drake Sts or something ridiculous like that??
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Re: Transperth Service Changes - 2017

Postby Mr OC Benz » Tue Mar 28, 2017 10:25 pm

Patronage on route 67 has been lower ever since the 950 commenced. It certainly was falling when it was first introduced - not sure if it has rebounded yet. Although it still does well during the peaks. Apart from the odd spill from the 950, it can be quiet at other times. There are also some cases in the peaks where what is normally a 20 min frequency, can be as close as 4-5 mins apart. This would be to do with the removal of some deviations via the old 69 route. They obviously didn't space out the trips when they were converted to normal 67's.

Btw, the 67 hasn't deviated via Broun Ave/Drake St for a few years now. It disappeared when the 950 was introduced from what I recall. The 950 could do with the extra trips, but it'll be good to know where they'll be placed. Even at the 15 min frequency at night, especially Fri/Sat nights, the services often carry standing loads out of the city. Some off-peak trips also get quite busy, especially if there is traffic congestion and one 950 ends up picking up the pax for two 950's.
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Re: Transperth Service Changes - 2017

Postby theenglishguy » Tue Mar 28, 2017 11:29 pm

Mr OC Benz wrote:This is basically a "robbing Peter to pay Paul" exercise. Understandable given the current economic climate, slowed growth and funding. 7-8 years of funding for service expansion was a good innings though!

I wonder where these additional services will be placed? Presumably mostly to boost peak services, but I hope in the case of the 950, it'll be for improvements to off-peak/weekend and night services which are regularly busy. I guess time will tell!


I think it is great to see Transperth starting to look more closely at how resources are allocated. There are definitely examples of routes that don't have the patronage to justify the existing number of services. Reallocating resources to higher performing routes will help to boost passenger numbers without actually increasing the cost to government - which is exactly what is required right now.

I'm also really interested to see where the extra services go - and I would definitely like to see more focus on increasing off-peak frequencies. In terms of the service itself, the frequency on most routes during peak times is more than adequate and it's pretty rare for passengers to be left behind. I think we are now at the stage where in most cases there's minimal benefit from increased service frequency during peak times without any investment in new infrastructure. If the government aren't going to commit funds for new infrastructure, then we should focus on the off-peak instead.

I have found that services really need to run more frequently later into the evening, even on weekdays. For example, when catching the bus from the CBD to Kalamunda, there's a 296 at 18:05, 283 at 18:15 and a 299 at 18:20, then nothing until 19:15. That's nearly an hour with no services to Kalamunda/Lesmurdie/High Wycombe straight after the PM peak. Lots of people don't work standard 9-5 hours or want to stay around the city after work, but our public transport system often does not allow it (without long waits for services). Another example is the 955/956 to Ellenbrook - runs hourly from 7-9pm, with the last service departing Bassendean at 9:52pm. Just means that public transport isn't a reliable option for people - because if they happen to be out later than 9:30pm in the city, they are going to have to fork out $40-50 for a taxi/uber.

Would also be nice to see late night services on Friday/Saturday nights departing the CBD at similar times to the trains. I'd love to have buses leaving at 2:15am for each of the 900 series routes - or at the very least just the 950/960. I don't think that's asking too much.
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Re: Transperth Service Changes - 2017

Postby TP1173 » Wed Mar 29, 2017 11:03 am

Merc1107 wrote:If the 115 is going to a 30min frequency on weekdays as a rumour I'm hearing suggests, then I do hope someone decides to alter the timetabling of the 114 (to Munster) so as to retain 15min frequency from the City to Booragoon Bus Station.
As it stands, the two routes often leave Elizabeth Quay together, or two minutes apart - considering both share an identical routing to Booragoon, it seems a bit pointless.

Will spare the pontificating about the 115, but I know I'm not the only one who thinks "poor patronage" isn't quite accurate.


As a regular user of the 115, I can tell you the bus has a very good load at every 15 minutes. It also has reasonable loads on night services on weeknights (leaving the city). I have a grave concerns they will cut Saturday night services.....
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Re: Transperth Service Changes - 2017

Postby TP1173 » Wed Mar 29, 2017 11:10 am

theenglishguy wrote:I think it is great to see Transperth starting to look more closely at how resources are allocated. There are definitely examples of routes that don't have the patronage to justify the existing number of services. Reallocating resources to higher performing routes will help to boost passenger numbers without actually increasing the cost to government - which is exactly what is required right now.


Well cutting the 500, 505 and 510 is a good start. I have never seen more than one passenger on a 510 on a weekend, and the 505 barely scrapes a passenger, if any at all, on weekdays outside of peak. The 500 is similar.

While on the topic of the 500, it should be rerouted to go via Brentwood Shops. The dogleg East of Moolyeen Rd is fairly pointless and most passengers walk from/to the train station. Must be some old people's home or something out there I don't know about! :?:
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