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Re: Transperth service changes

Postby 102 at 1625 » Sun Jan 12, 2014 12:25 pm

Several new timetables effective 02/02/2013 have been uploaded to the Transperth website. No major reductions or improvements as far as I can see.
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Re: Transperth service changes

Postby 900 series » Sun Jan 12, 2014 2:21 pm

There seem to be a few added trips, 513 running every 15 to Murdoch until 10:30 for instance and 10 minute afternon peak frequency on the 501 to Bull Creek.

The new 955/6 timetable looks suspect, a 40 minute peak hour gap on a corridor that offpeak runs every 15 minutes :?: Time will tell I guess

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Re: Transperth service changes

Postby SuperBus » Sun Jan 12, 2014 2:52 pm

The new route 950 timetable has been released, looks really good!

http://www.transperth.wa.gov.au/timetablePDFs/High%20Frequency%20202%2020140127.pdf
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Re: Transperth service changes

Postby Mr OC Benz » Sun Jan 12, 2014 5:24 pm

Re: 955/956, apart from the below changes, it will be as per normal (apart from the error there).

Services will change as follows:
Route 956 currently departing Bassendean Station at 3.59pm travelling to Ellenbrook north will be withdrawn and replaced with an additional Route 955
This service will depart Morley Bus Station at 3.44pm and Bassendean Station at 4.00pm arriving at Ellenbrook north at 4.38pm. This new service will help relieve pressure on the 3.23pm and 4.34pm services from Morley Bus Station.
An additional weekday Route 956 will depart Bassendean Station at 3.50pm reaching Ellenbrook north at 4.29pm. This new service will help relieve pressure on earlier and later services departing Bassendean Station.
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Re: Transperth service changes

Postby User 11872 » Sun Jan 12, 2014 6:31 pm

Hopefully that is an error - 50 minutes on a non-school day is a far stretch
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Re: Transperth service changes

Postby 900 series » Mon Jan 13, 2014 12:12 pm

The proposed Butler Station Feeder network is now up for consultation, Changes include:

-480 and 482 terminate at Butler, frequency of both routes upgraded to every 10-20 peak, 30 off-peak, 60 weekends
-481 will run every 10 minutes peak and 30 off peak, still terminates at it's current terminus
-482 will run via Marmion Avenue co-ordinated with the 480 (looks like this means a new weekdays frequent corridor along Marmion avenue :)
-483 and 484 will run through Butler to the current terminus, both every 10 minutes peak
-490 straightened, no longer runs through suburbia at Yanchep. Terminates at Butler
-new route 491 runs from Butler to Yanchep (Wilkie/Grey) via current 490, every second service (and every Sunday service) extends to St Andrews estate. Main part of the service runs at similar frequencies to the current 490. Service co-ordinated with the 490 on Marmion Avenue.

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Re: Transperth service changes

Postby 102 at 1625 » Mon Jan 13, 2014 2:27 pm

Transperth have inserted a banner advertisement on their homepage linking to the 950 information page describing the 950 as a Superbus and proclaiming that it Goes Further is More Frequent and is Super Fantastic.
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Re: Transperth service changes

Postby User 11872 » Mon Jan 13, 2014 5:44 pm

Closer obs don't add up with frequencies west of Marmion Av in Yanchep. Apparently the 490 will maintain a 20 mins in peak hour yet "Services will be maintained on existing roads west of Marmion Av that will maintain a higher level of service ie the (new) 491 will also run at 20 mins as proposed and thereby providing a combined freq of 10 mins in peak. That's what it says. Yet, if Yanchep west of Marmion Av including Wilkie Av, Brazier Rd and Lagoon Dr is slated as having a weekday peak service of 20 minutes and the same level of service is maintained on the 490 (there's no mention of any modification to the 490) operating at a 20 min headway along with the 491 at the same freq....10 min headways are achieved!
The chart though doesn't say this. Doesn't make sense to me.
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Re: Transperth service changes

Postby 102 at 1625 » Mon Jan 13, 2014 7:30 pm

plant-ender wrote:there's no mention of any modification to the 490

Transperth wrote:The route (490) would undergo a major change to run from Two Rocks to Butler Station via Two Rocks Rd and Marmion Av. This change would mean that services no longer run via Brazier Rd or Lagoon Dr in Yanchep and instead travel on a more direct path through Yanchep on Marmion Av, reducing journey times for passengers north of Yanchep Beach Rd.

Have another look at the second map provided, plant-ender.

Hope this helps.

EDIT: In response to your question below, if these changes are implemented as proposed, don't think that the 490 is really intended to serve Yanchep, but more or less yes, plant-ender. Not all of Yanchep will be smalled by the amended 490. :)
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Re: Transperth service changes

Postby User 11872 » Mon Jan 13, 2014 8:45 pm

Thanks 102 at 1625. I think you're right! See...beer...
So the sum of Yanchep services will be 10 peak, 30 off peak, 30 Sat & 60 Sun?
What confused me was the Yanchep form at the bottom which I thought was the 490-1 combined. Makes sense now I'm a little sober lol.
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Re: Transperth service changes

Postby 102 at 1625 » Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:10 am

Transperth is proposing service changes to routes 390, 391 and 468.
  • The 390 is proposed to have route changes in Tapping and Banksia Grove and have a frequency upgrade on weekdays.
  • The 391 is proposed to have a route change in Banksia Grove and is proposed to use a new terminus in that suburb. It is also proposed to have a frequency upgrade on weekdays.
  • The 468 is proposed to have a route change in Joondalup, now operating along the same route as the 467 through Joondalup instead of travelling via Shenton Avenue.
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Re: Transperth service changes

Postby 900 series » Thu Jan 16, 2014 7:27 pm

I wrote:The new 955/6 timetable looks suspect, a 40 minute peak hour gap on a corridor that offpeak runs every 15 minutes :?: Time will tell I guess


Was an error, the correct version is now up
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Re: Transperth service changes

Postby TP1462 » Fri Jan 24, 2014 11:49 am

I don't know if this counts but the 9:19 P-W from Whitfords now arrives on platform 7 forming an at all stations from Whitfords to Fremantle services stopping at all stations except Greenwood to Fremantle, this service usually terminates and returns to the depot.
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Re: Transperth service changes

Postby User 11872 » Fri Jan 24, 2014 1:23 pm

102 at 1625 wrote: EDIT: In response to your question below, if these changes are implemented as proposed, don't think that the 490 is really intended to serve Yanchep, but more or less yes, plant-ender. Not all of Yanchep will be smalled by the amended 490. :)


Route 490 Clarkson Station to Two Rocks via Yanchep (Major route change)

This service would work in conjunction with new Route 491 (see below) to maximise service frequency from Yanchep to Butler Station via Eglinton and Alkimos.

I do understand what you mean 102 at 1625...but I guess my eyes always see what grabs their attention the most, in this case the above text.
My main concern was that apart from the under-patronised St Andrews section of current route 490, that 1) there wasn't a reduction in service levels in west Yanchep 2....and this is where my overall scan of the text was a bit out
and 2) that as stated in the italics above there was an improvement in service levels to Yanchep as stated by Transperth.
It was regarding point 2 that my eyes pricked up in the first place as I thought the freq chart below that text headed "Services in Yanchep are proposed to operate" referred to the proposed freq of both 490-1 services and that if it did that it simply didn't add up and in fact would be an overall reduction. Simple misunderstanding on my part ironically.

Anyway, looks like some pretty good improvements overall, esp for Two Rocks residents regarding journey times and Yanchep (generally) getting a coordinated boost.
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Re: Transperth service changes

Postby 102 at 1625 » Tue Jan 28, 2014 5:22 pm

2nd March 2014 Service Changes

Timetables 19, 43, 81, 64, 74, and 133 effective 02/03/2013 have been released. I have found a news article telling us that routes 34, 36, 37, 40, 295, 296, 298 and 299 will be changed, so expect more timetables and news articles to be released soon.

I can work out from the timetables and the news article released so far that the following changes will occur:

  • 34 One additional peak service in each direction bringing the ultra peak frequency to every 10 minutes.
  • 36 Extra short services between Perth and Redcliffe
  • 37 Additional peak services in the peak flow direction, 15 minute weekday evening frequency until 9:00pm, frequency reduction betwwen the airport and Belvidere St/ Gardiner St with services operating every 30 minutes instead of every 20 minutes.
  • 40 "Additional services throughout the week", extention to Perth Airport T3/T4 via Great Eastern Hwy and Fauntleroy Ave.
  • 92 to be renumbered to 84.
  • 295 and 299 Time changes.
  • 298 and 296 Time changes and minor route changes in Maida Vale, including a new terminus for route 298.
  • 387 and 388 Time changes.
  • 445, 446 and 447 Time changes, train connections removed, some extra peak short 445 and 446 services (I think...), extra school days only trips and a new timing point for routes 446 and 447 at Ellersdale Av/Chalcombe Wy.
  • 365, 372 and 375 Bus connections removed, 375 services reduced to one service in each direction per weekday.
  • 591 Time changes, train connections removed.
  • 592 and 594 No longer on the southern 133 timetable.
  • Great Eastern Highway Service Upgrade during the day - At least 10 minutes on weekdays, 15 minutes on Saturdays and 20 minutes on Sundays.

It seems that with the new Let's Connect timetable styles that connections are being phased out.

I would guess that route 593 will be introduced on the 2nd March (but it hasn't been announced yet).
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Re: Transperth service changes

Postby 900 series » Tue Jan 28, 2014 6:23 pm

102 at 1625 wrote:2nd March 2014 Service Changes

445, 446 and 447 Time changes, train connections removed, some extra peak short 445 and 446 services (I think...), extra school days only trips and a new timing point for routes 446 and 447 at Ellersdale Av/Chalcombe Wy.[*]

Also route change on 447 to follow 446 into Warwick. Most likely some changes will occur to 441/2 as well once they upload more timetables

591 Time changes, train connections removed.[*]592 and 594 No longer on the southern 133 timetable.

I would guess that route 593 will be introduced on the 2nd March (but it hasn't been announced yet).


Correct, on TimeTable 139

92 to be renumbered to 84.

Also looks like time changes, including minor additions/deletions
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Re: Transperth service changes

Postby 102 at 1625 » Tue Jan 28, 2014 6:38 pm

Interestingly, unlike the proposed 593, the 593 will operate at frequencies similar to the the higher frequency, 365 day route 594 instead of the lower frequency, Monday-Saturday route 592. I wonder why they decided to run more services?
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Re: Transperth service changes

Postby Mr OC Benz » Tue Jan 28, 2014 6:50 pm

Route 403/404 extension to Stirling also effective from 02/03/2014.

Connections on timetables for many routes have almost become unnecessary as they run frequently enough. Most coordinate bus feeders will run at least every 15 mins or more during peak periods. The removal of connections may only reflect what is displayed on the timetable rather than whether the formal connection still exists, I guess it is just a matter of comparing timetables? The 'let's connect' branding is obviously apart of their little promotion to show that Transperth is one massive integrated network (which it is). Integration between modes is great as is ticketing, you can board a bus in Alexander Heights and you may want to get down to Rockingham Beach and it would be fairly simple for most people.

I think the best thing that they have ever done in Perth is get into people minds the advantages of feeders and integration where buses support the train network rather than buses competing against trains. This idea alone immediately brings the thought that while there may be a small disadvantage in having to transfer services multiple times to reach your final journey, this has enabled a network of connections that can be made at many major centres to get to a variety of places and the other advantages that come with this is a more efficient, frequent and reliable service is able to be provided as there are less variables per route to deal with. Sure the system may not be perfect, but it has certainly come a long way and has avoided many of the issues that other cities in Australia are dealing with.
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Re: Transperth service changes

Postby 102 at 1625 » Wed Jan 29, 2014 12:51 pm

More 02/03/2014 Changes

In addition to the new timetables listed above in my post and in Cat's post, more new timetables have been uploaded and linked to the Transperth website: timetables 61, 100 and 135. Still no connections.

The following changes are not listed above (except for 593):
  • 424 Time changes, route change through Gwelup as proposed in proposal B, deviations to Carine Caravan Park removed.
  • 564, 567, 568 Probably some minor changes that I didn't notice!
  • 592 Time changes, route changed and shortened, serving a new terminus and no longer travelling to Dawesville West.
  • 593 Replaces 592, new service Mandurah Station to Dawesville West via Old Coast Road and Dandargan Drive, coordinated with 594 and operating on similar frequency.
  • 594 Time changes, route change (no longer operates along Merrivale Street).
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Re: Transperth service changes

Postby 900 series » Wed Jan 29, 2014 5:22 pm

102 at 1625 wrote:564, 567, 568 Probably some minor changes that I didn't notice!

Have found an extra 567A, 3:46 ex-Warnbro.

Also a new Timetable 68, looks like minor time changes to northbound 381
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Re: Transperth service changes

Postby User 11872 » Wed Jan 29, 2014 5:41 pm

More interesting changes....looking like a great 2014 thus far.

But these PDFs....why on God's earth can they not be oriented all reading the same direction?
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Re: Transperth service changes

Postby Mr OC Benz » Wed Jan 29, 2014 6:21 pm

I agree too! It's interesting as the first few timetables in the new style, plus a few corrected ones have them oriented the right way for reading as a PDF, and the way that the others are as paper timetables which is just annoying. Have to keep my iPad on lock rotation and flip it upside down to read!
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Re: Transperth service changes

Postby 900 series » Wed Jan 29, 2014 6:28 pm

The really odd part is "Eastern 99" is in a sensible format but "Bus Timetable 99" isnt even though they're the same tmetable :?
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Re: Transperth service changes

Postby TP-2051 » Thu Jan 30, 2014 4:33 pm

Mr OC Benz wrote:Route 403/404 extension to Stirling also effective from 02/03/2014.


Northern 58 timetable has been uploaded to the Transperth Website and only 403 is extended to Stirling. Major Time changes include an upgrade of 403 frequency from 1 hour weekdays to 30 minutes off peak for weekdays and Saturdays and a major reduction of 404 services.

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Re: Transperth service changes

Postby Mandurahbus » Thu Jan 30, 2014 8:10 pm

593/594 - The Old Coast Rd "SuperBus"!!! LOL ;)
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