PTA/ Transperth Observation- August 2015

Merc & Renault Bus_1 · Sat Aug 01, 2015 9:10 pm

Welcome to August

Let's start with today's rail replacement buses Rockingham to Mandurah, which are:
2130, 2216, 2221, 2223, 2227, 2232, 2244, 2250, 2253, 2262, 2270, 2275, 2280, 2292, 2293, 2294

Badbusboy66 · Post by **Badbusboy66** » Sat Aug 01, 2015 10:30 pm

Looks like Transperth bus route 48 will replace some of the 348 trips after Sunday 9 August since 348 will be withdrawn.

Badbusboy66 · Post by **Badbusboy66** » Sat Aug 01, 2015 10:33 pm

I was on 1778 today it was so slow going up on the hills on the route 41 and it was shaking I wasn't even bothered to record on 1778.

Badbusboy66 · Post by **Badbusboy66** » Sun Aug 02, 2015 2:11 pm

Is 3002 still in Malaga or has it gone back to Welshpool?

Merc & Renault Bus_1 · Sun Aug 02, 2015 6:38 pm

Still there as far as I know, I think Morley depot is putting life back into this bus

ozi_mister_d · Post by **ozi_mister_d** » Mon Aug 03, 2015 3:59 pm

Sitting outside on South Tce Fremantle, just saw 1803 with LED headlights
Are they experimental?

TP1462 · Post by **TP1462** » Mon Aug 03, 2015 5:15 pm

2480 has been fitted with the new parkeon infigo E.T.I.Ms

http://www.parkeon.us/our-solutions/pro ... ue/infigo/

TP1173 · Post by **TP1173** » Mon Aug 03, 2015 6:07 pm

ozi_mister_d wrote:Sitting outside on South Tce Fremantle, just saw 1803 with LED headlights
Are they experimental?

I am not too sure if they are, but I am fairly sure it has had them for a while (a few months).

Badbusboy66 · Post by **Badbusboy66** » Mon Aug 03, 2015 6:23 pm

TP1173 wrote:
ozi_mister_d wrote:Sitting outside on South Tce Fremantle, just saw 1803 with LED headlights
Are they experimental?
I am not too sure if they are, but I am fairly sure it has had them for a while (a few months).

Couple of weeks ago I saw 1800 in Morley bus stn doing a 98 with blue headlights.

LawBayly · Post by **LawBayly** » Mon Aug 03, 2015 8:06 pm

TP1462 wrote:2480 has been fitted with the new parkeon infigo E.T.I.Ms

http://www.parkeon.us/our-solutions/pro ... ue/infigo/

Wow.. Android has reached ticketing systems now, still I guess it makes it easier to develop for and cheaper than a custom Linux system.

TP1462 · Post by **TP1462** » Mon Aug 03, 2015 10:33 pm

LawBayly wrote:
TP1462 wrote:2480 has been fitted with the new parkeon infigo E.T.I.Ms

http://www.parkeon.us/our-solutions/pro ... ue/infigo/
Wow.. Android has reached ticketing systems now, still I guess it makes it easier to develop for and cheaper than a custom Linux system.

Yep powered by android, was surprised myself too, looks like the 'infigo' as an off the shelf model modified to meet PTA requirements

TP1462 · Post by **TP1462** » Mon Aug 03, 2015 10:58 pm

https://www.tenders.wa.gov.au/watenders ... 4F22B42C71

The CAT contract has gone up for tender and closes on the 20th of October, the new contract will commence a 10 year term from the 17th April 2016

The OC replacement program includes for the delivery of 32 midi Volvo B8RLEs, I'm guessing the Claisebrook OCs will be refurbished and moved around to provide extra capacity elsewhere on the PTA network

10-2015/16 financial year (late)
10 2016/17 financial year (early)
12 2017/18 financial year (late)

The CATs are expected to to be fitted with ticketing machines to make use of the real time tracking system, access and utilise Perth busport (when operational) as well as smartrider add value

The B5RH is NOT apart of the next contract it has been stated that it will be removed, tenderers have been advised not to include it in their estimates

LawBayly · Post by **LawBayly** » Tue Aug 04, 2015 7:31 pm

TP1462 wrote:https://www.tenders.wa.gov.au/watenders ... 4F22B42C71

The CAT contract has gone up for tender and closes on the 20th of October, the new contract will commence a 10 year term from the 17th April 2016

The OC replacement program includes for the delivery of 32 midi Volvo B8RLEs, I'm guessing the Claisebrook OCs will be refurbished and moved around to provide extra capacity elsewhere on the PTA network

10-2015/16 financial year (late)
10 2016/17 financial year (early)
12 2017/18 financial year (late)

The CATs are expected to to be fitted with ticketing machines to make use of the real time tracking system, access and utilise Perth busport (when operational) as well as smartrider add value

The B5RH is NOT apart of the next contract it has been stated that it will be removed, tenderers have been advised not to include it in their estimates

Does this mean that the B5RH is becoming the way of the fuel cell busses and it will be removed from service and scrapped or will Transdev use it elsewhere on their network like the OC500LE's?

Merc & Renault Bus_1 · Tue Aug 04, 2015 7:57 pm

Why scrap the bus, I'm pretty sure they can use it in other Transdev depots, Rockingham can do with a hybrid bus on their shuttle buses to the foreshore

Shoudy Chen · Post by **Shoudy Chen** » Tue Aug 04, 2015 11:43 pm

TP1462 wrote:https://www.tenders.wa.gov.au/watenders ... 4F22B42C71

The CAT contract has gone up for tender and closes on the 20th of October, the new contract will commence a 10 year term from the 17th April 2016

The OC replacement program includes for the delivery of 32 midi Volvo B8RLEs, I'm guessing the Claisebrook OCs will be refurbished and moved around to provide extra capacity elsewhere on the PTA network

10 2015/16 financial year (late)
10 2016/17 financial year (early)
12 2017/18 financial year (late)

The CATs are expected to to be fitted with ticketing machines to make use of the real time tracking system, access and utilise Perth busport (when operational) as well as smartrider add value

The B5RH is NOT apart of the next contract it has been stated that it will be removed, tenderers have been advised not to include it in their estimates

So will the OC500LE CNG buses be removed from the Claisebrook depot and put into other depots?

Off The Rails · Post by **Off The Rails** » Wed Aug 05, 2015 12:18 am

Yes. I cannot say where to, though.

Cheers!

LawBayly · Post by **LawBayly** » Wed Aug 05, 2015 10:29 am

TP1462 wrote: The OC replacement program includes for the delivery of 32 midi Volvo B8RLEs

Hmm...Rigid B8's I wonder if they'll use the same ZF transmission as the artics although to be honest a 6 speed transmission is mostly pointless in a bus that is stuck in city traffic all the time. 4 speed voith will do fine for the cat busses.

Honestly I think the because of the 6 speed transmissions and poor acceleration (compared to the B7's) the OC's weren't best suited for start stop CAT busses, it'll be good to see them reallocated to long distance routes (like the 940 and 111) where the 6 speed is needed.

LawBayly · Post by **LawBayly** » Wed Aug 05, 2015 7:15 pm

TP1462 wrote:2480 has been fitted with the new parkeon infigo E.T.I.Ms

2479 also has one of the parkeon indigo's, but it seems the tag on/off machines are still wayfarers.

TP1462 · Post by **TP1462** » Thu Aug 06, 2015 12:34 am

2477 onwards have the new e.t.i.ms

New SCVs are coming these new ones have NFC built in which hopefully means in the not too distant future we could see Apple Pay or android pay preferably both being adopted as a form of cashless payment.

http://www.parkeon.us/our-solutions/pro ... o-touch-2/

Furthermore to my previous post about the cats nothing has been stated in the tender documents about what will happen to the OCs however the gas facilities at Claisebrook depot will be decommissioned once the new contract is fulfilled.

Shoudy Chen · Post by **Shoudy Chen** » Thu Aug 06, 2015 12:36 am

http://m.watoday.com.au/wa-news/perths- ... irzyd.html

adx666 · Post by **adx666** » Thu Aug 06, 2015 5:12 pm

Cant wait for the new station to open, will be wicked to see so many trains at one station

Transport Nut · Post by **Transport Nut** » Fri Aug 07, 2015 11:01 pm

About an hour ago 1334 completed a full length 220, unusual to see a Claremont bus so far from home.

Badbusboy66 · Post by **Badbusboy66** » Sat Aug 08, 2015 11:24 am

Transport Nut wrote:About an hour ago 1334 completed a full length 220, unusual to see a Claremont bus so far from home.

Maybe 1334 was a loan at Beckenham.

pasha241 · Post by **pasha241** » Sat Aug 08, 2015 6:01 pm

Badbusboy66 wrote:
Transport Nut wrote:About an hour ago 1334 completed a full length 220, unusual to see a Claremont bus so far from home.
Maybe 1334 was a loan at Beckenham.

i more think is at SR. because BH and CV already have lot of new buses. and i saw 1334 too during 220 School specials from lumen to Armadale, which always run by sR buses. and now most of o405nh midi from BH/CV get transferred to SR.

Shoudy Chen · Post by **Shoudy Chen** » Sat Aug 08, 2015 11:19 pm

pasha241 wrote:I more think is at SR. because BH and CV already have lot of new buses. and i saw 1334 too during 220 School specials from lumen to Armadale, which always run by SR buses. and now most of o405nh midi from BH/CV get transferred to SR.

How on earth did a person say 1334 from ex-Claremont does the full route 220 from Perth-Armadale. That is fairly unexpected. 1851 and 1852 have moved to Southern River because of Volvos joining in the Canning Vale and Beckenham depot. Don't forget - not all Southern River buses run the route 220. Beckenham/Canning Vale terminate at Cannington, while Southern River buses go direct to Armadale.