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Mercedes-Benz 1114 preserved

Postby PoweredByCNG » Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:00 pm

It gives me great pleasure to announce that recently-retired ex-Transperth / TransBusselton Mercedes-Benz O 405 (1114) has now found a new home in preservation. The bus changed hands on Friday 17 March and was picked up today (20 March). The acquisition of (1114) has allowed me to fulfill my wish of owning the first and last O 405/Volgren delivered to Transperth. This also means that the first and last of this very small class of buses (1106 being the class-leader) are now in safe hands.

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Re: Mercedes-Benz 1114 preserved

Postby Swift » Sun Aug 13, 2017 4:05 am

That is a very familiar melody I hear in the central coast from time to time ,but they are disappearing fast, being replaced by MAN 18.310s and 18.320s.
Slight clunk into 2nd but nice hums from the orchestra of clutch packs and gears meshing in there.
I would love to see a VOITH Mercedes 0405 video with a nice view of the rear BMAC taillights on display,
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Re: Mercedes-Benz 1114 preserved

Postby jonwil » Sun Aug 13, 2017 8:17 pm

Its great that so many of the old buses are being preserved and its great that there are people out there with the resources to buy, store, run and (where necessary/desired) modify/fix/repair/restore these old machines.
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Re: Mercedes-Benz 1114 preserved

Postby PoweredByCNG » Thu Aug 17, 2017 1:28 am

Swift wrote:Slight clunk into 2nd but nice hums from the orchestra of clutch packs and gears meshing in there.


This was by far the nicest sounding unit out of the batch of nine (1106-1114). Right now, the load sensor is slightly out of adjustment which causes the occasional delayed lockup in second gear, but nothing consequential and certainly no unexpected roughness.

I would love to see a VOITH Mercedes 0405 video with a nice view of the rear BMAC taillights on display,


I don't know of anywhere that had O 405s with Voith gearboxes and BMAC tail lights...
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Re: Mercedes-Benz 1114 preserved

Postby Swift » Thu Aug 17, 2017 2:40 pm

PoweredByCNG wrote:
I would love to see a VOITH Mercedes 0405 video with a nice view of the rear BMAC taillights on display,


I don't know of anywhere that had O 405s with Voith gearboxes and BMAC tail lights...


Having never been to Perth, my impression was their standard use of BMACs on virtually every bus from the 1980s to 1990s. I thought there was a batch of high floor Voith gearbox 0405s from that era, which would have the UK sourced BMAC taillight assemblies.
I have only managed to find one decent sound bite of a naturally aspirated Voithed 0405 (in the UK of all places!), and while interesting, I was not personally taken with the combination from that recording anyway.
I think the 0405 brings some of the best sounds out of the ZF, so I certainly favour your choice hands down!
Love those original (but expensive -I've read) headlights.
The VoV front looks great with them.
Looks well kept, unlike Sydney's disgraceful buses both STA and certain privates.
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Re: Mercedes-Benz 1114 preserved

Postby Merc1107 » Thu Aug 17, 2017 7:13 pm

Swift wrote:I thought there was a batch of high floor Voith gearbox 0405s from that era, which would have the UK sourced BMAC taillight assemblies.

No batch of Voith O405s. Although we did get hundreds of the low-floor O405NH with the Voith :wink:

However, one O405 CNG variant; 1094, had a Voith D851 3sp fitted to replace the failed Merc W3E gearbox. I can see why most others in that CNG batch (1091-1105) received the Allison B400R 5sp instead of the Voith - for one reason or another it just didn't work out that well, and was rather rough in its latter days when I rode it.
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