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Denning History

Postby isalotdenning » Tue Feb 12, 2013 2:14 pm

Hi All,
Just joined the forum and I am trying to find out the history of our new Denning Motorhome.
Known history;
Sold to me as a 1982 Denning Landseer 8 weeks ago
Vehicle originally purchased by aust Pacific tours, then by Broadmeadows buslines in Jan 1990.
Purchased by motorhome builder that I purchased from in 2005.
Engine number 8VA-4191417087-4040 (8V71GM)
Chassis number DA-900-592-82
Body number DA-908-592-82.
6 speed spicer SST61463D (Fitted in Aug 95)
Is it a Denair or Landseer, by all photo's I have looked at it points to a Landseer but from what I have researched the build dates for Landseers did not start till 1984 ?
The compliance plate says it is a Leyland Denning ?
Any information would be great.
Also can anybody shed any light on registration for this vehicle with the new national heavy vehicle standard coming into effect, I live in QLD but wish to register in Vic due to cost, it going to be a national standard going forward.
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Re: Denning History

Postby makeminea2stroke » Tue Feb 12, 2013 9:17 pm

Hi

In the Fleetlists look at number 4 at this page
http://fleetlists.busaustralia.com/vic. ... &ltype=old
Sorry don't know how to do links
It is definately not a Landseer, Although a number of Monos/Denairs (not sure which term is correct) were done up to look like the Landseer over time

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Re: Denning History

Postby isalotdenning » Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:31 am

Thanks Glen,
The service history book I was given with the bus matches the information you gave me, so I will run with a 1982 Denning Denair, I have tried to contact Broadmeadows bus lines for engine history as I was told by the guy I purchased from the engine was reconditioned approximately 350K ago by them but they have not responded. On the return trip from Darwin the engine ran sweet as and achieved 3.2km/Litre, about 1 litre of oil to 1000km, happy with that, gearbox took a little adjusting to but once I worked out the 1700rpm change point it was all good.
Why do photo's that I have seen of Denning Denairs do not look like mine, still looks more like a Landseer shape.
Future plans are to midmount a Daikin 8.0kw multi head A/C unit to two 3.5 heads and take out the two 3.5kw units as one is mounted in driver side engine bay restricting access to engine and airflow to radiator.
Install a tankless gas hot water system (CMCA Magazine) and remove the existing electric hot water system to reduce 240v demand. (Any feedback)
Install an adequate solar system.
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Re: Denning History

Postby CCCC » Wed Feb 13, 2013 1:33 pm

strange the compliant plate would say Leyland Denning if its a GM chassis.

Did JRA have an association with the make/manufacture.
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Re: Denning History

Postby isalotdenning » Wed Feb 13, 2013 2:16 pm

Yeah I'm confused, not hard.
Where on the Chassis do I find the Chassis number ?
Still looks like a Landseer to me, 8V71, Tag Axle, raised aircon section at rear looks all Landseer, definately can't find a Denair that looks like mine.
Would add a photo but not sure how to upload to thread.
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Re: Denning History

Postby venturatiger » Wed Feb 13, 2013 2:29 pm

Hi there, you may not get an answer from Broadmeadows Bus Service, as that vehicle was sold before the present owners took over

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Re: Denning History

Postby isalotdenning » Wed Feb 13, 2013 2:44 pm

Ta
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Re: Denning History

Postby makeminea2stroke » Wed Feb 13, 2013 2:45 pm

Don't they all have just had a rebuild

Most Landseer style remodelled Denairs have obvious differences to the real ones.
Have a look at the two on this sight to see an example of this version of the look alike
http://www.tasredline.com.au/index.php? ... &Itemid=16
I think all the denairs had a step in the floor above the engine area where the Landseer was flat up there
Be careful of gas consumption on the tankless hot water, I've heard some are quiet high. can't give any other fitout advise as I haven't got there yet
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Re: Denning History

Postby CCCC » Wed Feb 13, 2013 4:11 pm

isalotdenning wrote:Yeah I'm confused, not hard.
Where on the Chassis do I find the Chassis number ?
Still looks like a Landseer to me, 8V71, Tag Axle, raised aircon section at rear looks all Landseer, definately can't find a Denair that looks like mine.
Would add a photo but not sure how to upload to thread.


If you put up some pic's the members will pick the bones out of them and have a better answer for you.
8v71 would also be rare for Landseer but I think Ventura may have had a few.
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Re: Denning History

Postby Mr Scania » Wed Feb 13, 2013 4:21 pm

The bin doors is the first give away. On the Denairs the gas struts came up from the post but on the Landseers the strut came out level with the bin floor.

If the coach had been rolled or had severe damage above the floor line there were a few that were Landseer from the floor up.

There were quite a few Landseers that were powered by 8v71s.

Does you Denair have two exhaust pipes coming out under the bumper bar or upright stack or stacks ?
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Re: Denning History

Postby Cary » Wed Feb 13, 2013 6:07 pm

Some interesting pointers.

As above though I have seen some busses that have been "modernised" after being involved in an accident or when being fitted out to a motorhome. Interesting to see how it works out.

Can you email the pics isalotdenning? If so I'm sure someone could post them up.
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Re: Denning History

Postby isalotdenning » Wed Feb 13, 2013 9:47 pm

Can anybody tell me how to upload a photo ??????
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Re: Denning History

Postby marashkar » Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:50 am

The chassis number will be on the main frame rail in front of the front wheel my landseer it is on the rh side but I have heard of them being on the lh side steve
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Re: Denning History

Postby isalotdenning » Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:12 am

Thanks Steve
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Re: Denning History

Postby Maladjusted » Tue Feb 19, 2013 5:49 pm

Hi a Denning coach built at that time would have had the compliance plate stamped that way as "Denning" was part of the JRA Group or Jaguar Rover Australia.

Posting pics? I should read this myself, see this link to FAQ

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Re: Denning History

Postby Hornibrook » Sun Mar 10, 2013 9:20 am

isalotdenning wrote:Hi All,
Just joined the forum and I am trying to find out the history of our new Denning Motorhome.
Known history;
Sold to me as a 1982 Denning Landseer 8 weeks ago
Vehicle originally purchased by aust Pacific tours, then by Broadmeadows buslines in Jan 1990.
Purchased by motorhome builder that I purchased from in 2005.
Engine number 8VA-4191417087-4040 (8V71GM)
Chassis number DA-900-592-82
Body number DA-908-592-82.
6 speed spicer SST61463D (Fitted in Aug 95)
Is it a Denair or Landseer, by all photo's I have looked at it points to a Landseer but from what I have researched the build dates for Landseers did not start till 1984 ?
The compliance plate says it is a Leyland Denning ?
Any information would be great.
Also can anybody shed any light on registration for this vehicle with the new national heavy vehicle standard coming into effect, I live in QLD but wish to register in Vic due to cost, it going to be a national standard going forward.

Hi There,

Here's the history. Note that the VIN should read:DA-908-592-82 and its Denning Build/Body Number is 908 (as indicated in the VIN).

New in May 1982 to Australian Pacific Coaches, Sandringham, VIC as (62) URF 035 (Vic Rego)
Sold to AAT Kings, Spotswood, VIC as (35) mo 289 (NT Rego), then re-registered EBJ 022 (Vic Rego).
Sold to Broadmeadows Coaches, Fawkner, VIC as (4) EBJ 022, then re-registered 1963 AO and sold by December 2005.

Hope this helps!
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Re: Denning History

Postby isalotdenning » Mon Jan 06, 2014 8:47 pm

Thanks for the update, finally got the photo uploaded of the rig.
Mooch.
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Re: Denning History

Postby Landseer » Wed Apr 23, 2014 10:16 am

Another way is the rear suspension , where are the airbags located on the drive? Above the wheels 2 side by side and the tag axle goes over the tailshaft is a landseer
Air bags either side of the tyres about 3/4 tyre height and the tag axle goes under the tailshaft is a mono
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