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Re: Service Changes for nRAH

Postby jibb » Mon Aug 21, 2017 4:47 pm

Will be interesting to see how traffic including buses copes with left turn from Morphett Street into North Terrace,as the green light cycle is not very long!
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Re: Service Changes for nRAH

Postby jibb » Mon Aug 28, 2017 5:59 pm

A new coloured brochure for the City Connector is now available on the Adelaide Metro website,as well as the 98/99 services it incorporates the temporary 97A timetable between the new and old RAH.
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Re: Service Changes for nRAH

Postby UNV » Thu Aug 31, 2017 8:22 pm

New sign for stop Y1 on North Tce has been installed at the corner of Liverpool St (east side).
Both of the 2 new stops can be seen on Google now.
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Re: Service Changes for nRAH

Postby softgrow » Mon Sep 04, 2017 8:33 pm

Had a look for new printed timetables at the InfoCentre on the corner of King William and Currie Street in the city today hoping to see as outlined at http://www.adelaidemetro.com.au/Announc ... e-Hospital

Updated bus timetables below are available now:
* 500-501-502-N502
* 506-546
* 542-N542
* 543
* 544-M44
* 823-840X-T840-T843-860F-863-T863-864-N864
* 861-N864
* C1-C2-N1
* 97-98-99 Free City Connector


The 97-98-99 are out of stock as they were last week and the others are still at the old (pre 3 September 2017) revision with none of them showing "Effective 3 September 2017" on the front cover as per the PDF version. I'll try again in a weeks time.

Anyone seen any of these out in the wild?
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Re: Service Changes for nRAH

Postby hillsbus » Mon Sep 04, 2017 9:21 pm

Any one observed how the new stops (Y1 - North Terrace and B2 - West Tce) are going - much patronage as yet?
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Re: Service Changes for nRAH

Postby jibb » Mon Sep 04, 2017 11:00 pm

I very much doubt they are going to print new timetables-this pattern has been happening for a while now(cost cutting?).They will only get printed when major changes occur.
With the O-Bahn routes that have been altered,another reason I would believe is that when the new tunnel opens later this year,there will need to be a revision of all O-Bahn timetables due to the time saving as a result of using the new tunnel,plus G40,528 and 548 services travelling via Grenfell Street.
As for other routes it will be interesting to see if DPTI(the Government) decide to make major changes prior to the March 2018 election?
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Re: Service Changes for nRAH

Postby hillsbus » Thu Sep 07, 2017 7:37 am

I've noticed that new bus stop on West Tce - B2 for the 864 route - is before B1. Is this the only place in the CBD where the stop numbers are out of order?
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Re: Service Changes for nRAH

Postby The Phonj » Thu Sep 07, 2017 9:25 am

Not the only location; a couple I can think of are
East Tce Y1 and Y2 are out of order.
Glover Ave X1 comes after Y2 Currie St.
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Re: Service Changes for nRAH

Postby soak01 » Thu Sep 07, 2017 8:32 pm

I missed the full discussion on talk back radio but it seems that the new stop is causing traffic issues with buses laying over. Haven't seen for myself so can't be sure. Maybe it would have been better to have had a purpose built interchange either at or adjacent the nRAH.

Also, not sure about the 864 but the C1 still displays City - Currie Street. I would have thought that it would be re-programmed to City - RAH via Grenfell & Currie Street or something similar.
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Re: Service Changes for nRAH

Postby jibb » Fri Sep 08, 2017 2:51 pm

With the upcoming changes to O-Bahn services I guess LCB didn't want to do 2 changes in a short period of time, as its quite expensive.
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Re: Service Changes for nRAH

Postby UNV » Mon Sep 11, 2017 12:08 am

Some of C1/C2 drivers ain't serving stop X1 on North Tce & B1 on Currie St, one of them told me they got different messages about new stops, so some of them decided to only serve Y1 (at least they need to layover there)...
Shouldn't LCB tell every driver the stops exactly?
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Re: Service Changes for nRAH

Postby Eagle Eye » Mon Sep 11, 2017 11:33 am

UNV wrote:Some of C1/C2 drivers ain't serving stop X1 on North Tce & B1 on Currie St, one of them told me they got different messages about new stops, so some of them decided to only serve Y1 (at least they need to layover there)...
Shouldn't LCB tell every driver the stops exactly?

What makes you think that LCB haven't told their drivers about the new stops? Do you really think bus companies allow drivers to choose their own stops?
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Re: Service Changes for nRAH

Postby UNV » Mon Sep 11, 2017 2:47 pm

Eagle Eye wrote:
UNV wrote:Some of C1/C2 drivers ain't serving stop X1 on North Tce & B1 on Currie St, one of them told me they got different messages about new stops, so some of them decided to only serve Y1 (at least they need to layover there)...
Shouldn't LCB tell every driver the stops exactly?

What makes you think that LCB haven't told their drivers about the new stops? Do you really think bus companies allow drivers to choose their own stops?


I rode C1/2 several times last week, nearly every driver served different stops at West End, some missed X1, some missed B1, some served all three correctly, some even serve one more Y2.
So I asked a driver why, he said what I posted above.
If it's not a thing, why did I post here??
Anyway, I made a complaint call to AdMetro last Friday.
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Re: Service Changes for nRAH

Postby soak01 » Mon Sep 11, 2017 8:45 pm

jibb wrote:
Eagle Eye wrote:New terminus for the 864 - stop B2 West Tce. Must be a new stop. It's odd that the 864 is extended but not the 863 which is essentially a short-working. Higher frequency to the RAH during interpeak than peak with all the various Hills routes that operate peak times!
It looks like stop Y1 North Tce is further east than it was before for route C1/C2.

With all services on the C1-C2 services to/from stop Y1 (excluding a few C1T's in the weekday evening peak from Hindmarsh Square) there is will be a good service to/from Currie and Grenfell Streets,and as I have said previously much quieter Clarendon Street terminus for O-Bahn buses.


C1T's no longer operate from stop W1 in Hindmarsh Sq during the evening peak. Only the C1X at 5.00pm, 5.15pm and 5.30pm assuming they are on time, which is a rarity.
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Re: Service Changes for nRAH

Postby TT » Mon Sep 18, 2017 1:07 pm

I noticed today that all inbound C1 buses are showing "city west" as their destination so obviously destinations have been upgraded over the weekend.
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Re: Service Changes for nRAH

Postby 2MSJ » Mon Sep 18, 2017 2:01 pm

Yes - Noticed a C2 showing that on Sunday morning
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Re: Service Changes for nRAH

Postby UNV » Wed Sep 20, 2017 9:46 pm

softgrow wrote:Had a look for new printed timetables at the InfoCentre on the corner of King William and Currie Street in the city today hoping to see as outlined at http://www.adelaidemetro.com.au/Announc ... e-Hospital
Anyone seen any of these out in the wild?


New printed timetables have been available since last week.
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Re: Service Changes for nRAH

Postby softgrow » Thu Sep 21, 2017 1:46 pm

softgrow wrote:Had a look for new printed timetables at the InfoCentre on the corner of King William and Currie Street in the city today hoping to see as outlined at http://www.adelaidemetro.com.au/Announc ... e-Hospital

Updated bus timetables below are available now:
* 500-501-502-N502
* 506-546
* 542-N542
* 543
* 544-M44
* 823-840X-T840-T843-860F-863-T863-864-N864
* 861-N864
* C1-C2-N1
* 97-98-99 Free City Connector


The web page http://www.adelaidemetro.com.au/Announc ... e-Hospital has now been updated to a shorter list

Updated bus timetables below are available now:
* 823-840X-T840-T843-860F-863-T863-864-N864
* 861-N864
* C1-C2-N1
* 97-98-99 Free City Connector


Looking at the racks in the InfoCentre on the corner of King William and Currie Street in the city today checking the original longer list, I find some new ones now:
* 97-98-99 Free City Connector - still out of stock
* 823-840X-T840-T843-860F-863-T863-864-N864 - in stock from last week (2 A3 sheets joined on the short edge, printed double sided, folded to A4 and then into quarter size concertina 75 by 210mm)
* C1-C2-N1 - in stock Version 14 (2 A3 sheets joined on the short edge, printed double sided, folded to A4 and then into quarter size concertina 75 by 210mm)
* 543 - in stock Version 6 (1 A3 sheet, printed double sided, folded to A4 and then into quarter size concertina 75 by 210mm)
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Re: Service Changes for nRAH

Postby jibb » Thu Sep 21, 2017 2:55 pm

Picked up all September 2017 O-Bahn timetables at TTP yesterday as well as City Connectors.
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Re: Service Changes for nRAH

Postby softgrow » Wed Sep 27, 2017 10:25 pm

softgrow wrote:Had a look for new printed timetables at the InfoCentre on the corner of King William and Currie Street in the city today hoping to see as outlined at http://www.adelaidemetro.com.au/Announc ... e-Hospital

Updated bus timetables below are available now:
* 500-501-502-N502
* 506-546
* 542-N542
* 543
* 544-M44
* 823-840X-T840-T843-860F-863-T863-864-N864
* 861-N864
* C1-C2-N1
* 97-98-99 Free City Connector


Looking at the racks in the InfoCentre on the corner of King William and Currie Street in the city today yesterday, the remaining timetables are now available:
* 500-501-502-N502 - (2 A3 sheets joined on the short edge, printed double sided, concertina folded to A4 and then into quarter size concertina 75 by 210mm)
* 506-546 - (3 A4 sheets joined on the long edge, printed double sided, concertina folded to A4 and then into quarter size concertina 75 by 210mm)
* 542-N542 - (1 A3 sheet, printed double sided, folded to A4 and then into quarter size concertina 75 by 210mm)
* 544-M44 - (2 A3 sheets joined on the short edge, printed double sided, concertina folded to A4 and then into quarter size concertina 75 by 210mm)
* 861-N864 - (3 A4 sheets joined on the long edge, printed double sided, concertina folded to A4 and then into quarter size concertina 75 by 210mm)
* 97-98-99 Free City Connector - a different design to most timetables, it has full colour bleed on most of one side, made from 399mm square paper, concertina folded to 399 by 100mm portrait then folded in half to end up 100 by 200mm. Subjectively it seems to be on thinner paper than other timetables as well. The typeface used is also noticeably larger than other timetables.

Looking forward to the next batch of changes :)
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