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bus R802

Postby Madbus » Sat Jun 17, 2017 7:08 am

Hi, The other day I saw a bus that´s number was R802. What does the ´R´ mean? :?:
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Re: bus R802

Postby mmosca447 » Sat Jun 17, 2017 7:40 am

bus and train boffin wrote:Hi, The other day I saw a bus that´s number was R802. What does the ´R´ mean? :?:

I am fairly sure the R stands for Rail replacement as these buses are used when suburban lines are not in use
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Re: bus R802

Postby Madbus » Sat Jun 17, 2017 11:19 am

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bus and train boffin wrote:Hi, The other day I saw a bus that´s number was R802. What does the ´R´ mean? :?:

I am fairly sure the R stands for Rail replacement as these buses are used when suburban lines are not in use

Well, it was running on the 747 route, but the screen on the front and back of it said it was running on route 751. Could this mean anything?
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Re: bus R802

Postby Fleet Lists » Sat Jun 17, 2017 11:50 am

The fleet list shows R802 as a rail replacement vehicle but I thought the R was usually restricted to older vehicles but as this is a newer CB80 it seems a bit unusual.
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Re: bus R802

Postby PD2/20 » Sat Jun 17, 2017 12:25 pm

Fleet Lists wrote:The fleet list shows R802 as a rail replacement vehicle but I thought the R was usually restricted to older vehicles but as this is a newer CB80 it seems a bit unusual.

The rail replacement fleet consisted of Mercs and MANs. However by the time of the Noarlunga closure in 2013 almost all the Mercs had been retired and a number of newly delivered CB80 artics and rigids were added to the fleet. Some of the CB80s were subsequently moved to the regular fleet and renumbered accordingly but several such as R802 retain their R numbers and can be called on for rail replacement work.
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Re: bus R802

Postby TA3001 » Sat Jun 17, 2017 12:58 pm

The rigids were retired by 2013, but there were still Merc artics in service until around August when they were all withdrawn excluding R588 which survived until about October or November IIRC.

Getting an SG280H on rail subs was like getting a CB60 L94UB instead of an SL202 back then. MAN artics have never excited me much, especially with Voith transmissions.
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Re: bus R802

Postby jibb » Sat Jun 17, 2017 1:20 pm

There are 9 of these Artics numbered R800-801-802 with Southlink,R803-804-805 with Light-City Buses,R806-807-808 with Torrens Transit and generally can be used on any route at any time including Adelaide Oval Footy Express services.

In October when there is several weeks of shutdowns of the Torrens Junction resulting in the cancellation of the Grange-Outer Harbour line services and partial shutdown of the Gawler line services, these Artics will go to whichever companies are doing Rail substitute services.
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Re: bus R802

Postby Madbus » Sat Jun 17, 2017 6:27 pm

I checked the Adelaide metro site for any disruptions on Route 747, 751(like I said earlier), and the Seaford line and nothing are wrong except for late night works on the Seaford line, so I don´t see why there should be any rail substitute buses.
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Re: bus R802

Postby busrider » Sat Jun 17, 2017 6:53 pm

As said above, the buses are designated rail buses for whenever rail replacement is required. When they're not needed for rail replacement services, they are used as normal buses in each operator's fleet.
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Re: bus R802

Postby Madbus » Sat Jun 17, 2017 7:01 pm

bus rider wrote:As said above, the buses are designated rail buses for whenever rail replacement is required. When they're not needed for rail replacement services, they are used as normal buses in each operator's fleet.

but what happens if there is an unplanned desruption and that bus is needed when it is running a normal route?
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Re: bus R802

Postby jibb » Sat Jun 17, 2017 7:11 pm

bus and train boffin wrote:
bus rider wrote:As said above, the buses are designated rail buses for whenever rail replacement is required. When they're not needed for rail replacement services, they are used as normal buses in each operator's fleet.

but what happens if there is an unplanned desruption and that bus is needed when it is running a normal route?

There are other rigid and artic buses available in each operators fleets. As has been said several times these buses are in continual use on regular scheduled services(and often school services).
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Re: bus R802

Postby busrider » Sat Jun 17, 2017 7:39 pm

If the bus requirement for emergency rail replacement can't be met with buses from the existing fleet, then private operators are called in to help out.
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Re: bus R802

Postby Madbus » Sat Jun 17, 2017 9:02 pm

Ok, but why would the bus that I saw say it was running on route 751 when it was on the 747 route?
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Re: bus R802

Postby busrider » Sat Jun 17, 2017 9:19 pm

Driver put in the wrong code on the destination sign, perhaps?
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Re: bus R802

Postby Madbus » Sun Jun 18, 2017 6:44 am

he heh! yeah, maybe. Thanks for your help, bus rider. :)
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Re: bus R802

Postby PD2/20 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 8:09 pm

jibb wrote:There are 9 of these Artics numbered R800-801-802 with Southlink,R803-804-805 with Light-City Buses,R806-807-808 with Torrens Transit and generally can be used on any route at any time including Adelaide Oval Footy Express services.

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According to Fleetlists the rail replacement rigids R850-859 were all renumbered into the operator fleets as follows:
R850-1 -> TT 1908-9
R852-3 -> LCB 1831-2
R854-5 -> LCB 1809-10
R856-9 -> Slink 3231-4

In Fleetlists 3235 is also described as a rail replacement vehicle but no R number is quoted. Is this correct?
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Re: bus R802

Postby busrider » Sun Jun 18, 2017 8:13 pm

Yes. 3235 and 3236 entered service with those numbers.
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Re: bus R802

Postby Skexis » Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:01 pm

bus and train boffin wrote:Ok, but why would the bus that I saw say it was running on route 751 when it was on the 747 route?

Exactly where and when did you see it?

busrider wrote:Yes. 3235 and 3236 entered service with those numbers.

...and were dead quiet to drive on rail subs as the radios could only send and receive the Hills channel.
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Re: bus R802

Postby busrider » Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:14 pm

I'd imagine that made them quite popular with some drivers :P
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