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Re: [Mar/Apr 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby Bodø Glimt » Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:03 am

Skexis wrote:I see some less than bright spark has decided to merge the 733 and 734 stops at Noarlunga Colonnades and have installed a pool fence just to make things even more cramped. Well done, not.


It's not really a problem as both services don't depart at the same time. They do in the evening but the 733 starts at NCI after 1952.
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Re: [Mar/Apr 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby TA3001 » Mon Apr 03, 2017 10:34 pm

860 of all things is doing the 10:16PM 118 to Adelaide from Port. It's been a while since I've noticed one being out this late. Reminds me of 422 doing a 142 to Burnside about 10PM once last year.

The only reason I noticed is because I actually heard an SL going past within the last hour. It's not just some obs where trip data hasn't been updated after an SL is swapped for a CB80.
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Re: [Mar/Apr 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby busrider » Wed Apr 05, 2017 1:07 pm

A Merc O500LE Euro VI with Gemilang bodywork in RedMet livery has been spotted in Victoria... And no, not an April Fools joke.
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Re: [Mar/Apr 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby jibb » Wed Apr 05, 2017 3:09 pm

busrider wrote:A Merc O500LE Euro VI with Gemilang bodywork in RedMet livery has been spotted in Victoria... And no, not an April Fools joke.

Wonder who will get this one?
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Re: [Mar/Apr 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby jibb » Wed Apr 05, 2017 7:13 pm

busrider wrote:A Merc O500LE Euro VI with Gemilang bodywork in RedMet livery has been spotted in Victoria... And no, not an April Fools joke.

This bus has now been sighted in Adelaide late this afternoon.
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Re: [Mar/Apr 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby Skexis » Wed Apr 05, 2017 7:24 pm

jibb wrote:This bus has now been sighted in Adelaide late this afternoon.

A location might be helpful.
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Re: [Mar/Apr 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby Bodø Glimt » Wed Apr 05, 2017 7:33 pm

Skexis wrote:
jibb wrote:This bus has now been sighted in Adelaide late this afternoon.

A location might be helpful.


Adelaide :P
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Re: [Mar/Apr 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby TT » Wed Apr 05, 2017 9:08 pm

Southlink got the Volgren Optimus, Torrens got the Cummins BusTech. So maybe LightCity will get the Merc Gemilang? Although I've heard that these buses are on trial for the government and may be shifted around between depots and between contractors so that they all get the chance to put input into the next tender.
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Re: [Mar/Apr 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby Lt. Commander Data » Wed Apr 05, 2017 10:19 pm

Torrens also got the Wright Streetlight thing at Mile End. I've heard some very unreliable rumours that the Citaro may be trailed on the track, which would suggest LCB.
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Re: [Mar/Apr 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby thedom » Wed Apr 05, 2017 10:24 pm

Tenporary Rail Closures from Easter for 6 days on Gawler line between Mawson and Adelaide and 10 days full line closure for Grange and Outer Harbour services for Torrens Rail Junction works.
Subsitute timetables not available at time of sourcing link.

http://www.adelaidemetro.com.au/Announcements/Planned-Disruptions/Outer-Harbor-Grange-and-Gawler-rail-line-closures
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Re: [Mar/Apr 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby TT » Thu Apr 06, 2017 7:40 pm

The Wright Streetlight thing is a Torrens owned bus I believe whereas the other 3 are owned (or borrowed or leased as trial buses) from the Govt.
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Re: [Mar/Apr 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby TT » Thu Apr 06, 2017 8:41 pm

Timetables for train subs on Outer Harbor, Grange and Gawler lines are now on Adelaide Metro website.
And proper full timetables this time, not just the "then every half hour on Outer Harbor and every hour on Grange lines from 7.08am until 6.48pm" (or something similar) that were used in January that people had so much trouble reading.
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Re: [Mar/Apr 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby Eagle Eye » Fri Apr 07, 2017 9:26 am

TT wrote:Timetables for train subs on Outer Harbor, Grange and Gawler lines are now on Adelaide Metro website.
And proper full timetables this time, not just the "then every half hour on Outer Harbor and every hour on Grange lines from 7.08am until 6.48pm" (or something similar) that were used in January that people had so much trouble reading.

Terrible route "numbers". Who comes up with these?

What's with the GA1 late at night from Adelaide? Does it continue through to Gawler Central or terminate at Mawson Lakes and leave people stranded? Sounds like there's some information missing.

Doesn't mention about transferring at Mawson Lakes. I assume down trains will depart from the down platform, with trains switching either at the switches before Port Wakefield Rd or somewhere near the depot?

I can't believe the travel time between Adelaide and Mawson Lakes is 35 minutes at both 5pm and 11:30pm. Obviously traffic conditions haven't been taken into account, and buses in the peaks may miss train connections while the night trips could be slow and having to sit at every time point.
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Re: [Mar/Apr 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby TA3001 » Fri Apr 07, 2017 2:33 pm

It was exactly the same with the G1/H1 timetables in January. They had about 6 or so minutes from Woodville station to stop just around the corner on Port Rd. Can't remember exactly which one it was, but it only took 2 minutes 4/5 times. I once saw one of the coordinators chatting with a driver until the vehicle was about 4 behind schedule, and then left and arrived at the next stop on time!

I don't even think there was a PDF file showing the timetable. Seemed to be only printed versions, and ones for RTI apps.
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Re: [Mar/Apr 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby Eurostar » Fri Apr 07, 2017 5:52 pm

Which company will be doing the rail subs? Any old buses being used ?
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Re: [Mar/Apr 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby jibb » Fri Apr 07, 2017 6:02 pm

Eurostar wrote:Which company will be doing the rail subs? Any old buses being used ?

I believe Southlink will do Adelaide to Mawson Lakes.
Torrens Transit will do Grange/Outer Harbour lines.
As it is school holidays many peak hour runs will not operate,freeing up buses for Rail subs.
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Re: [Mar/Apr 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby Lt. Commander Data » Sat Apr 08, 2017 1:09 am

bigrobbo wrote:New "timetables" are on line for Southlink Hills services along Glen Osmond Rd for the new bus stops from April 8.


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Scania L94/CR224L #3208 was the last bus to use (or at least, be able to use) stops 2, 4 and 7 Glen Osmond Road this evening. Just more numbers to be skipped for the Hills, maybe it's time for a complete renumber (when you consider stops 15, 17-24 Mt Barker Road haven't existed for nearly 20 years, now a few on Glen Osmond Road as well. There is also the prehistoric numbering on Upper Sturt Road to consider, as well as the many suffixes on the stop numbers for Greenhill Road).

With regards to the previous discussion about Stops 90 and 91 Dumas St (Mt Barker), on further inspection it appears Stop 90 has stayed the same, and it is indeed 91 which now resides opposite the Park'n'Ride, with the top of the sign saying "Route 839 Only". I can see why it may have moved there, as buses laying over at stop 90 (running early) block one whole side of the road, whereas the new Stop 91 is indented. If the timing point was moved I can see a much safer and easier to navigate Dumas St.
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Re: [Mar/Apr 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby The Phonj » Sat Apr 08, 2017 6:34 am

Doing a 171 yesterday; it was interesting to note that the BCU had already been updated; removing stops 2 and 4, and updated stop locations for those stops moving.
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Re: [Mar/Apr 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby Skexis » Sat Apr 08, 2017 5:51 pm

jibb wrote:
Eurostar wrote:Which company will be doing the rail subs? Any old buses being used ?

I believe Southlink will do Adelaide to Mawson Lakes....No old buses only current fleets will be used.

A radio call went out a week or so ago asking for volunteers to move artics from Lonsdale to Elizabeth on Easter Sunday morning. I'm guessing it'll be R800, 801 and 802 given their R prefix. Be interesting to see Southlink make despatch every day if they are three buses short before they even start the day.
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Re: [Mar/Apr 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby jibb » Sat Apr 08, 2017 6:04 pm

LCB will probably loan their "R" artics to one of the other contractors for Rail Subs.
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Re: [Mar/Apr 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby Lt. Commander Data » Sat Apr 08, 2017 7:43 pm

They're not LCB's "R" artics, rather the government's on loan to LCB.

Regarding Skexis's comment re: dispatch, due to it being school holidays there shouldn't be any issues, with the various school buses not running I'd imagine there'd be a few spares. Worst case scenario a few rail sub rigids from Aldagte could be transferred for the holidays, with many many school routes in the hill not running, there are plenty of spares during holidays.
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Re: [Mar/Apr 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby thedom » Sun Apr 09, 2017 7:13 am

thedom wrote:Tenporary Rail Closures from Easter for 6 days on Gawler line between Mawson and Adelaide and 10 days full line closure for Grange and Outer Harbour services for Torrens Rail Junction works.
Subsitute timetables not available at time of sourcing link.

http://www.adelaidemetro.com.au/Announcements/Planned-Disruptions/Outer-Harbor-Grange-and-Gawler-rail-line-closures


Bowden passengers get mixed bag offering for 6 next months:
http://www.adelaidemetro.com.au/Announcements/Planned-Disruptions/Bowden-Railway-Station-city-bound-platform-closure

Trams or local 150/157/155 services for city in-bound passengers; Trains still offering City to Bowden for outbound passengers.
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Re: [Mar/Apr 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby Fleet Lists » Mon Apr 10, 2017 7:09 am

see http://www.busaustralia.com/gallery/dis ... pos=-17289

Link SA (517) BCI in the buspark in Bowen St, Adelaide 1/4/2017 seen on a visit to Adelaide last week but does not appear to be in the fleet list.
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Re: [Mar/Apr 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby busrider » Mon Apr 10, 2017 2:21 pm

R806/7/8 have been transferred from TT back to SL for the upcoming rail subs.
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Re: [Mar/Apr 2017] SA Transport observations

Postby jibb » Mon Apr 10, 2017 4:51 pm

busrider wrote:R806/7/8 have been transferred from TT back to SL for the upcoming rail subs.

As have Light-City Buses R803/804/805.
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