January 2017 timetable changes

[hillsbus]

I noticed this statement on the AdMet website -

Other timetable changes

A number of other timetables will have minor changes made to them from Sunday 29 January. Changes are operational and will have little to no impact on customers. All affected web timetables have been updated and are available now as timetables, pdf and in Real-Time for trips planned from the 29 January 2017 onward.

[Lt. Commander Data]

Has anyone found any timetables effective from the 29th of Jan 2017 that don't involve the stop changes?

[hillsbus]

M44 and 557 are new timetables not affected by bus stop changes

[Lt. Commander Data]

So what's actually going on here is almost nothing. The "date effective" up the top of the timetable still says '26th January 2016', to find he new ones you have to look at the version number in small print at the bottom of the back of the timetable. Quite annoying for collectors, does this go in the 2016 or 2017 section?

[thedom]

I can see one additional weekday city bound short working 286 service added to the 286/287/288 new updated timetable :

12:50pm on Mondays and 3:15pm Tue-Fri ; aside from a stop change in the city the timetable reads otherwise the same.
I recall this service has previously not been timetabled but operated weekdays to the closely following 286 service (or same time from stop 7 on the up).

Maybe there are a few more similar here and there

[thedom]

I have found some extra minor details changed:
300 Suburban Connector
Removed time points in the 300 timetable: Stop 12 Belair Road and Stop 27 Diagonal Road in both directions.
A 300U Anti-Clockwise service now has a Z prefix at 1505hrs from Glenelg

100 Timetable
4 Additional AM 100C services from Marion Road towards Glen Osmond (school days)
One Additional PM 100N Services from Urrbrae towards Marion Road (school days)
One Additional PM 100B Service from Urrbrae towards Marion Road (two on Wednesdays, School days)

G30F Timetable (600/601/605)
The * suffix has been added to City bound Ayliffes road stop 24A all AM services on the up.
(Reduced time points on the down and) * Suffix added to stop 18 Goodwood road for all services on the down.

[Norman]

A few of the Timed Stops have changed on a few services, such as the M44 and G10. Presumably to stop them causing congestion on key intersections when running early.

[Lt. Commander Data]

Here are the version numbers for the 2017 copies of timetables. I don't understand why they didn't just put 2017 on the top of the timetable, but that would be logical I guess.

- [ ] 100-101 (version 8)
- [ ] 140-144-147 (version 9)
- [ ] 150-350 (version 8)
- [ ] 155-157-376 (version 7)
- [ ] 170-172 (version7)
- [ ] 171-173 (version 7)
- [ ] 174-N178 (version 8)
- [ ] 176-178-N178 (version 6)
- [ ] 190 (version 8)
- [ ] 195-196-197X (version 10)
- [ ] 200 (version 10)
- [ ] 202-203-209F-N202 (version 11)
- [ ] 206-208-528 (version 9)
- [ ] 222 (version 7)
- [ ] 224-N224 (version 8)
- [ ] 225 (version 5)
- [ ] 228-T228 (version 7)
- [ ] 229 (version 5)
- [ ] 230-232 (version 9)
- [ ] 235-238-239 (version 9)
- [ ] 241-245-248 (version 8)
- [ ] 251-252 (version 8)
- [ ] 253-254-N254 (version 7)
- [ ] 262-263-265 (version 8)
- [ ] 281 (version 12)
- [ ] 286-287-288 (version 10)
- [ ] 300 (version 14)
- [ ] 361 (version 7)
- [ ] 400-421 (version 5)
- [ ] 401-403-900 (version 3)
- [ ] 404-405 (version 6)
- [ ] 411 (version 6)
- [ ] 500-501-502-N502 (version 11)
- [ ] 503-507 (version 6)
- [ ] 544-M44 (version 10)
- [ ] 548-591A-591C (version 2)
- [ ] 556-557-559 (version 6)
- [ ] B10-B12 (version 11)
- [ ] C1-C2-N1 (version 13)
- [ ] G10-N10 (version 13)
- [ ] G20-G21-G22X-N21-320 (version 11)
- [ ] G30F-600-601-605 (version 12)
- [ ] G40 (version 7)
- [ ] H20-H21-580 (version 10)
- [ ] J1-J1X-J3-163 (version 12)

[The Phonj]

I can see one additional weekday city bound short working 286 service added to the 286/287/288 new updated timetable :

12:50pm on Mondays and 3:15pm Tue-Fri ; aside from a stop change in the city the timetable reads otherwise the same.
I recall this service has previously not been timetabled but operated weekdays to the closely following 286 service (or same time from stop 7 on the up).

100 Timetable
4 Additional AM 100C services from Marion Road towards Glen Osmond (school days)
One Additional PM 100N Services from Urrbrae towards Marion Road (school days)
One Additional PM 100B Service from Urrbrae towards Marion Road (two on Wednesdays, School days)

These services already ran; but were not published in the printed timetable. Travel data extracted from the GTFS feed would show the trips though. The school orientated 100 trips have had a history of being published and then not being published in the printed timetable, and I'm sure that in a few years time won't be printed.

I have found some extra minor details changed:
300 Suburban Connector
Removed time points in the 300 timetable: Stop 12 Belair Road and Stop 27 Diagonal Road in both directions.
A 300U Anti-Clockwise service now has a Z prefix at 1505hrs from Glenelg

Closer inspection reveals the 300 has merged timing points 18 Regency Rd (Sefton Plaza) and 21 Main North Rd to stop 20A Muller Rd; removed 145 Portrush Rd, moved stop 12 Belair Rd to stop 167 Cross Rd, and stops 28 Grange Rd and 219 Woodville rd (QEH) merged to stop 214 Findon Rd

My biggest concern with the timetable dates not changing is for passengers waiting at previously timed stops which are no longer a timing point, the potential of a bus going through that point "early"; this may increase the confusion of passengers and number of complaints

[Lt. Commander Data]

Since when is stop 167 Cross Road a good place for a timepoint? Just put it at stop 161 (19) Portrush Road and be done with it! Same with the QEH timepoint, surely that is a better place than wherever stop 214 is? It's like moving the Marion Interchange timepoint to somewhere on Sturt Road.

More madness. Just give it less time if it runs early, it's not rocket science!

[Eagle Eye]

Since when is stop 167 Cross Road a good place for a timepoint? Just put it at stop 161 (19) Portrush Road and be done with it!

Stop 167 has half an indent so at least it's out of the way. Stop 19 Portrush Rd hasn't been a timed stop for some time - something to do with the bike lane or trucks from memory?

My biggest concern with the timetable dates not changing is for passengers waiting at previously timed stops which are no longer a timing point, the potential of a bus going through that point "early"; this may increase the confusion of passengers and number of complaints

True, but the Useful Information page of every timetable states that all times are approximate. Passengers should be arriving at bus stops at least 5 minutes prior to the scheduled arrival time - not leaving it to 1 or 2 minutes before the bus is due so that they may now miss the bus because of the timed stop changes.

[thedom]

Assuming one has a paper timetable with them... the bus stop time boards dont carry the useful information and certainly the real time info on apps doesnt offer you much room for error.

[The Phonj]

Since when is stop 167 Cross Road a good place for a timepoint? Just put it at stop 161 (19) Portrush Road and be done with it!

Stop 167 has half an indent so at least it's out of the way. Stop 19 Portrush Rd hasn't been a timed stop for some time - something to do with the bike lane or trucks from memory?

I think the biggest problem at stop 19 was with sharing the stop between service providers between 300, 100 and 144/140 services. I have distinct memories of finishing a 100 at stop 19 (becoming a 140/144 after a suitable layover) with a 300 already laying over there for its time; where to park??

[runawaybus]

The Million dollar question? Are the printed timetables available at the Info Centre (ARS and Currie Street).

Another change is the timing point on Payneham Road has been put back from the historical Stop 17 Glynde Corner to Stop 14 (near Avenue Road)- or where the old Italian Embassy was and that huge Gum Tree that makes motorists not see oncoming traffic from the right when exiting Avenue Road.

Thanks if anyone can help with this answer because I would like to with someone else collect these new timetables tomorrow if possible.

[Lt. Commander Data]

I would hazard a guess that they are not available - after all, the only way to tell the difference is by looking at the version number.

I would ask if anyone is planning on doing any first/lasts (like I always do), but as there are no new routes or discontinued routes I won't bother.

[softgrow]

The Million dollar question? Are the printed timetables available at the Info Centre (ARS and Currie Street).

Had a quick look at 5pm in the InfoCentre. There are no boxes of new timetables or even flyers about stop changes. The 222 on the racks is the "old" one, didn't have time to check any more.

[Norman]

The Million dollar question? Are the printed timetables available at the Info Centre (ARS and Currie Street).

Had a quick look at 5pm in the InfoCentre. There are no boxes of new timetables or even flyers about stop changes. The 222 on the racks is the "old" one, didn't have time to check any more.

Because the changes are so minimal, they will probably replace them as the old ones run out.

[TT]

230/232 routes have had timing point at 18 Days Rd removed and changed to stop 14 in Harrison Rd. Great idea so as not to clog up Days Rd. especially on the down right before Regency Rd lights.
And B10 on the Magill side now have a timing point at stop 10 Magill Rd, with Stop 14 Magill Rd and Stop 20 St Bernard's Rd removed as time points. Another positive step.

[I Follow PAFC]

Cancellation of T2T Express bus services.

The T2T Express (T2TX) bus service between Arndale Centre Interchange and the city was introduced as a trial in July 2016.

Due to low patronage numbers, the T2TX services will be cancelled from 29 January 2017, and the Arndale Centre Park 'n' Ride removed.

253X and 254X services will continue to operate as per current timetable.

https://www.adelaidemetro.com.au/Announ ... s-services

[Lt. Commander Data]

I'm surprised it took so long. I did a T2TX on its first day back in July, and was the only passenger for the duration of the trip.

[Eagle Eye]

I'm surprised it took so long. I did a T2TX on its first day back in July, and was the only passenger for the duration of the trip.

Most routes take time to catch on - not surprising the first day was quiet. Given it doesn't pick up along the route it seems rather obvious that if you were the only person to board you would be the only passenger throughout the trip. Numbers improved marginally, I've seen up to 10 passengers on some trips but most trips seem to carry single figures.

[softgrow]

The Currie Street Infocentre now has signage about the changes and stickers on each rack advising if there are changes or not, but no new printed revisions of the timetables. The Adelaide Railway Station Infocentre has no evidence of the change, but then again it has lots of rail timetables and only a few of each bus route timetable.

Currie Street InfoCentre racks 27th January 2017

[Busboi1984au]

The biggest problem with public transport in adelaide/ south Australia is that u can only go one place city >>>>suburbs or suburbs >>>city you can't get from suburb to suburb and if you do you need to change buses 100 times, Same with these shuttles they keep doing ppl don't want to continually change buses to get somewhere and they need to make public transport more frequent and cheaper to encourage ppl to use it.

[743]

I wouldn't quite say that's the case. There are plenty of routes which link suburbs without going through the City. The 100, 300, J8, 361, many of the 400 series - the list goes on.

What example of suburb to suburb travel can you give that requires excessive interchange of buses?

You're never going to please everyone - it's impossible to have a bus going everywhere to everywhere. You just have to make the best of what is available.

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[Lt. Commander Data]

An example would be Crafers or Stirling to Blackwood and Marion. As the crow flies it's not far, but there are very few 893/4s, and even then they only operate during weekday peaks. Without them you pretty much have to head into town then back out.